Sep 2015 Werewolf - Game thread

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Originally Posted by ShipItUp

No, it says that the village only wins if cory is killed as a wolf, which will be very difficult to do considering he's a very good wolf.

When did you start getting the impression you could read everyone baudi? I miss old indecisive turbo baudi, bring him back plz.

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have you ever seen villager Cory get lynched? I think it may have literally never happened.

baudi you're prolly a villager, your early stuff on me was still super bad tho.

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Originally Posted by Cory

baudib you used be such a tinfoil mongoose

have you been LIFTING in your absence from POG

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it's early, almost nothing is going on, the day is loooong

I'm locking in my handful of solid reads (3?) as irreversible stone-cold truth (until proven otherwise)

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Originally Posted by baudib

this is a fair observation but does nothing to help anyone determine anyone's alignment, particularly your own.

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rillas post you are referencing here was one of my favorite posts in this game so far, even though it was simply a 3rd party perspective on the game.

don't read into it

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Originally Posted by ShipItUp

baudi you're prolly a villager, your early stuff on me was still super bad tho.

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your early stuff was bad

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Originally Posted by baudib

have you ever seen villager Cory get lynched? I think it may have literally never happened.

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I've played about ~300 long games and been a villager in 200+ of them.

I have been mislynched once, at LYLO in a game in 2014: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59...night-1481441/

It invoked a pretty great deal of trauma

Still leaves my mislynch rate as a villager at about 0.5%

But some of that is because I die n1-n2 so very often

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Originally Posted by baudib

have you ever seen villager Cory get lynched? I think it may have literally never happened.

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He doesn't get lynched as a wolf very often either, which is why he's the correct peek.

He's also like 10-1 on pog as a wolf, so best to clarify that he isn't one. None of the rando's in this game look like they're future soah's so seeing very little reason to not peek cory. Peeking me or Kami is fine as well I guess, but only if Kami doesn't make it obvious she's a villager like she did in Disney. I'll let you know.

SIU run me off a list of players who are villagers

Show some CONFIDENCE with it like you're doing it to posture post-game

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

rillas post you are referencing here was one of my favorite posts in this game so far, even though it was simply a 3rd party perspective on the game.

don't read into it

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I'm not reading into it, I'm making Rilla fully aware of that fact that I know he is saying shit that has not utility to the village whatsoever.

Since you're here Rilla, IMO this is the wolfiest post in this game by A LOT

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

His follow-up post where he distances himself from your villager lean on him is another one of those things that people read as very villagery.

Drop enough of those nuggets in your posts and you can buy yourself some protection from getting lynched.

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Originally Posted by baudib

your early stuff was bad

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No it wasn't, just because your meta reads suck on me doesn't make my posts bad.

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Originally Posted by ShipItUp

He doesn't get lynched as a wolf very often either, which is why he's the correct peek.

He's also like 10-1 on pog as a wolf, so best to clarify that he isn't one. None of the rando's in this game look like they're future soah's so seeing very little reason to not peek cory. Peeking me or Kami is fine as well I guess, but only if Kami doesn't make it obvious she's a villager like she did in Disney. I'll let you know.

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I wouldn't peek Kami either, unless you want to make the wolves kill her.

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Originally Posted by ShipItUp

No it wasn't, just because your meta reads suck on me doesn't make my posts bad.

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no, your posts were independently bad. also, my meta reads don't suck.

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Originally Posted by Cory

SIU run me off a list of players who are villagers

Show some CONFIDENCE with it like you're doing it to posture post-game

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I will when I've read the game.

And Cory you should know at this point I posture in post-game whether I show confidence in my reads or not:p. Post game fellatio is why I play ww.

I would argue that I'm a generally suboptimal peek because my villager lifespan is extraordinarily low but I don't feel like getting into that argument in a new forum

Do as you please

Game is pretty low content so I'll fire up a notepad and see where I'm at

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Originally Posted by baudib

I wouldn't peek Kami either, unless you want to make the wolves kill her.

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Nah it's okay, I'll protect bae. Not gonna let the bad men get her obv.

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Originally Posted by baudib

no, your posts were independently bad. also, my meta reads don't suck.

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If they led you to believe I was a wolf they suck.

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Originally Posted by ShipItUp

And Cory you should know at this point I posture in post-game whether I show confidence in my reads or not:p. Post game fellatio is why I play ww.

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I remember looking at the Disney game and you had a list of like 15 players on your village list and it contained exactly one wolf (Stork IIRC)

LMK when you've read up, I'm going to read everything now

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

get an avatar, you shitty werewolf player...

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

Whatever my action is tonight. I'll probably use it on baudib. I should note, it will not be a kill action

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

Your logic says Village only wins if Cory is killed.

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Originally Posted by baudib

I wouldn't peek Kami either, unless you want to make the wolves kill her.

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Originally Posted by Cory

I would argue that I'm a generally suboptimal peek because my villager lifespan is extraordinarily low but I don't feel like getting into that argument in a new forum

Do as you please

Game is pretty low content so I'll fire up a notepad and see where I'm at

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Clear me you won't

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Originally Posted by Cory

I remember looking at the Disney game and you had a list of like 15 players on your village list and it contained exactly one wolf (Stork IIRC)

LMK when you've read up, I'm going to read everything now

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Is that supposed to be good?

Fuck Stork for being a wolf and ruining my perfection btw, gonna spite kill him asap in our next game.

Ughhh and now that I think about it I'm pretty sure I had him as a wolf early which makes that even more tilting.

God damnit man I just love the hell out of this panda.

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Originally Posted by baudib

I'm not reading into it, I'm making Rilla fully aware of that fact that I know he is saying shit that has not utility to the village whatsoever.

Since you're here Rilla, IMO this is the wolfiest post in this game by A LOT

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I've gotta meet some new people before I can get a sense of the village composition.

And the post is a pretty straightforward observation.

There is so much noise.

If Gator is a wolf baudi is spewed ridiculously clear just based on the first 30 posts alone.

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Originally Posted by ShipItUp

Is that supposed to be good?

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It was pretty good for like a list you made five hours into the game or something lol

*35!

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Originally Posted by Cory

It was pretty good for like a list you made five hours into the game or something lol

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oh neat, go me.

Yeah I still think Gator saying traitor instead of tailor early is kinda villagery, I probably shouldn't but I do. Feel like a wolf rarely unintentionally makes that mistake or thinks to intentionally make it to derp clear themselves.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

gator pretending to have not read the role clearly enough to know it's tailor, not traitor. Coming from gator, this could be a deliberate derp designed to make it look like he's not the tailor. I would expect gator to have read the roles, as either alignment. I think we might have found the tailor already.

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This is pretty awful, like, why are you automatically assuming he made the mistake intentionally? to be clear i don't currently think this is wolfy just pointing out that the logic is flawed.

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

There is so much noise.

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Yeah, these new players are kind of annoying so far.

Ship, do you realize that telling the real seer to peek Cory undermines the equity of you fakepeeking him?

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

The traitor?

How is it that 'the great' gator derps like this?

rescind baudib
lynch gator

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Yeah this is the second time in the first 50 posts that he's voted someone without the reasoning actually lining up with it being a wolf read.

BankItDrew

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Originally Posted by baudib

Ship, do you realize that telling the real seer to peek Cory undermines the equity of you fakepeeking him?

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Think about this for a second from the perspective of SIU being the seer and you'll laugh at yourself

I mean I'm obv. the seer LDO but I'll peek myself JIC

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Originally Posted by baudib

Ship, do you realize that telling the real seer to peek Cory undermines the equity of you fakepeeking him?

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If the wolves assume that the seer will listen to someone who is likely a random person whose role they aren't sure of then yes, it would.

OB, Baud, BID are villagers.

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Originally Posted by ShipItUp

Nah it's okay, I'll protect bae. Not gonna let the bad men get her obv.

If they led you to believe I was a wolf they suck.

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1. why does she need protecting? do you know she's a villager?
2. Like I intentionally and purposes stated I wouldn't talk about your meta so what the hell are you even saying?

If you think I suck at reading you, well, I don't know what to tell you. You're wrong.

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Originally Posted by ShipItUp

Different tone in the top and bottom portions of this post is pinging me, makes it seem like the top wasn't genuine.

1)I've made similar posts as a villager before
2)You know I've made similar posts as a villager before because you copied an opener I did like that
3)The fact that I posted in a certain way in one of my 60 turbo wolf games isn't really relevant. Especially considering the fact I've done it as a villa as well.

Baudi can't read me and considering you have no knowledge of our history there is no way you should be confident enough in that to vote me. You're just playing guess work which is hypocritical considering you're pushing me for a weak vote.

This is reaching pretty hard

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This is the kinda stuff that I mean about mechanically sound. Someone calls a post by you wolfy, counter that you've done it as a villager to brush it off their mind. Reassert that they can't read you, anyway.

That's pretty SIU

He does that in either alignment

So he's technically correct, the best form of correct

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

Yeah, these new players are kind of annoying so far.

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Tips for reading SIU:

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http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-conte...unno_shrug.gif

That panda face would be cuter if it weren't warped.

I like your 2+2 avatar a ton though.

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

get an avatar, you shitty werewolf player...

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

Whatever my action is tonight. I'll probably use it on baudib. I should note, it will not be a kill action

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

Your logic says Village only wins if Cory is killed.

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Originally Posted by baudib

I wouldn't peek Kami either, unless you want to make the wolves kill her.

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Originally Posted by baudib

1. why does she need protecting? do you know she's a villager?
2. Like I intentionally and purposes stated I wouldn't talk about your meta so what the hell are you even saying?

If you think I suck at reading you, well, I don't know what to tell you. You're wrong.

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Yeah I'm a wolf and just slipped, SIU confirmed sloppy.

What do you think my role is right now?

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Originally Posted by ShipItUp

Yeah I'm a wolf and just slipped, SIU confirmed sloppy.

What do you think my role is right now?

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I'm reserving judgment.

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Originally Posted by baudib

That panda face would be cuter if it weren't warped.

I like your 2+2 avatar a ton though.

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Baudi that's rude af, my panda can't control how its face looks and to call it warped is just outta line. Especially because when he gets upset he starts stress eating bamboo and I don't want to have to worry about long term obesity issues with him.

SIU the thing I don't get about you is why your turbo game doesn't translate directly to longer games.

like, of all the better players who turbo a lot, I would think yours does and I haven't seen evidence of it in the mashes we've played.

Why do you think that is? What makes your approach/mentality different?

This isn't a knock on you or anything, I'm just trying to get into your head.

^^ as a villager

wolfing in turbos is a lot different obviously.

Gabe's not a wolf either.

I see baudi got the haters UPSET early, that's what I like to see. Keep up the good work my friend.

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Originally Posted by ShipItUp

This is pretty awful, like, why are you automatically assuming he made the mistake intentionally? to be clear i don't currently think this is wolfy just pointing out that the logic is flawed.

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It's a healthy mix of paranoia (based on respect for gator's wolf game), and an effort to engage him. I don't give a crap how awful my d1 logic is. I don't automatically assume he made the mistake intentionally... I merely entertained the idea and said it out loud.

Oh and cory, the comment about lynching baudib for amusement wasn't serious, I was just baiting him. We probably dick around a little more here than on other sites, because we're all so familiar with each other, plus it's a poker forum, not a ww forum. That's not to say we don't try to win, and I assure you that I am not going to seriously vote for baudib on the basis of it being funny. But you can probably expect people to be less serious, especially this early, than what you're used to.

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Originally Posted by baudib

SIU the thing I don't get about you is why your turbo game doesn't translate directly to longer games.

like, of all the better players who turbo a lot, I would think yours does and I haven't seen evidence of it in the mashes we've played.

Why do you think that is? What makes your approach/mentality different?

This isn't a knock on you or anything, I'm just trying to get into your head.

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I have no idea, I just play how I want in either role. That doesn't change because of the type of game I'm playing.

I'm also reserving judgment on Evene.

she's like definitely within the bounds of her wolf range even though her burst of posting indicates she's reading and forming opinions.

But I love the way she attacks the game as a villager, with cold logic without being irrational or emotional.

it looks like those are qualities we will need in this game.

I can do not serious

Look this post has a werewolf joke in it:

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Why did the vig shoot the seer?

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LOL BAUDIB

Yeah gonna lock in baudi villa for 55. It wasn't just that obviously, and fwiw baudi if you're doing this as a wolf good for you.

I guess. I don't even know what my wolf game would look like at this point.

Is there an easy way to cancel the quotes in my queue? It's annoying have to delete 5 quotes before making a post.

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Originally Posted by Cory

I can do not serious

Look this post has a werewolf joke in it:

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Why did the vig shoot the seer?

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LOL BAUDIB

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dude I crush when I'm vig

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Originally Posted by ShipItUp

Is there an easy way to cancel the quotes in my queue? It's annoying have to delete 5 quotes before making a post.

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I don't know why or how that happens, I know it happens to Rascal too but haven't seen anyone else have that problem.

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Originally Posted by baudib

dude I crush when I'm vig

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The #alliance never forgets

my role was terrorist

I terrorized the shit out of him.

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your game is over gg

Yeah Monkey kinda gotta be a villager here. Have 1 reservation about it but I'm keeping it to myself for now.

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

Corey makes a good observation about baudib already:

Baudib hopes to target the tailor early. With 15 players in this game, it's going to be more of a bonus on top of lynching a wolf. it's sooooo much of a crapshoot early on.

Baudib wolfy
corey villagery
corey looking like dhubs 2.0 with his green posts

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God I hate saying this word but pushing baudib for being ~naive in #10 seems sort of grossly opportunistic

I remember not liking this the first time but considering he's been sort of all over the place I want to see if he's even trying to figure things out or if he's just saying things since he has "so much more content" or whatever than me LDO

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Originally Posted by Kami

ship it like 90% wolf btw

fking scrub

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I'm a sad panda:(

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Originally Posted by Cory

God I hate saying this word but pushing baudib for being ~naive in #10 seems sort of grossly opportunistic

I remember not liking this the first time but considering he's been sort of all over the place I want to see if he's even trying to figure things out or if he's just saying things since he has "so much more content" or whatever than me LDO

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Your pony is slow my friend

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

The traitor?

How is it that 'the great' gator derps like this?

rescind baudib
lynch gator

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aaaaaaaaaaaaand here it is again

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Originally Posted by Kami

he was literallyu online and didnt post even tho he could of interacted with qt kami

wolfy tbh

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Wtf bub I couldn't post anymore

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Originally Posted by ShipItUp

Your pony is slow my friend

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Shut up I'm doing my reread now

I had to fill out contract stuff when I got him for the condo I'm buying. We are through attorney review :) :) :)

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Originally Posted by Cory

aaaaaaaaaaaaand here it is again

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Your pony is slow part 2

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Originally Posted by Cory

Shut up I'm doing my reread now

I had to fill out contract stuff when I got him for the condo I'm buying. We are through attorney review :) :) :)

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n*ce

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Originally Posted by ShipItUp

Your pony is slow part 2

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I will set you on fire

there are like 3 posts from BID this game that gave me ebolAIDS but I chalked it up to him being BID

I may have to reconsider.

does anyone here know BID's ranges well enough to explain them?

is he slimy like that as a villager?

the fact that he's voting me without actually thinking I'm a wolf is probably a bad sign tbh

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Originally Posted by Cory

I will set you on fire

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First you blatantly steal my reads and try to take them as your own and now you're threatening to severely burn me. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO YOU ARE ANYMORE CORY.

I'm not in any other games and the volume in this one should be low enough where I will have the time to look at other games by players ITG

So if you nobody feels like helping I'll go figure it out myself

SIU
baudi
Monkey
Ong

Leaving cory off in case my fakepeek was wrong.

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Originally Posted by Cory

does anyone here know BID's ranges well enough to explain them?

is he slimy like that as a villager?

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he's kind of been pretty transparent as a villager, with a major caveat being that he got CFD'd twice on D1 as seer over the past year.

so there's that

he's pretty shook as a wolf and should give himself totally away at some point but meh

the last time he was a wolf, we had a two-player "night mason chat" that he was in with the town vig, and he accidentally posted stuff meant for wolf chat into the night chat.

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Originally Posted by ShipItUp

First you blatantly steal my reads and try to take them as your own and now you're threatening to severely burn me. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO YOU ARE ANYMORE CORY.

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I stole baudib's reads first

how does it feel to be sloppy seconds

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Originally Posted by Cory

I'm not in any other games and the volume in this one should be low enough where I will have the time to look at other games by players ITG

So if you nobody feels like helping I'll go figure it out myself

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the last game we played on here was a bit odd because we didn't have any specials and we had special voting rules.

the game before that was pretty representative of this group, I think, but the wolves REALLY FPSd because we had them cornered on D1.

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Originally Posted by baudib

the last game we played on here was a bit odd because we didn't have any specials and we had special voting rules.

the game before that was pretty representative of this group, I think, but the wolves REALLY FPSd because we had them cornered on D1.

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FPS is for loser villagers to think about

Just lunch the wolves ffs

Bring back nice Cory imo, I miss that guy. Mean Cory has let the fame of being a world renowned ww player get to his head it seems which is a shame.

I mean it was spectacular FPS. one wolf fakeclaimed seer with a guilty on a wolfbro, that wolfbro fakeclaimed angel, and the third wolf fakeclaimed seer with a guilty on the other wolf. that happened on D2 after a villager was lynched and shot by the vig.

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Originally Posted by Hoopy

So this is your first ever time playing Werewolf?

If so I think you should stop talking about night actions.

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I don't know if I like or dislike Hoopy

Everything he says seems to just be words on a page with nothing behind them

Babidi said something about his posting being ~usually null so IDK what to do with it

Like closing off NA discussion is probably +EV in general for the village, especially in a game with that tailor role

But saying it always feels weird to read from a guy who seems otherwise disinterested

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Originally Posted by ShipItUp

Bring back nice Cory imo, I miss that guy. Mean Cory has let the fame of being a world renowned ww player get to his head it seems which is a shame.

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I was always mean

(let me troll around on a new forum for awhile pls :()

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Originally Posted by gabe

so far i think gator, ong, and baud are on my suspicious list.

shipitup and monkeyface seem very villager to me

monkeyface, i dont think that jkds stuff is necessarily wolfy. after just finishing a game with him, and playing with him a lot in the past, jkds is doing that stuff often has a villager

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Don't see much of a reason to have me as a villager at this point if he was a wolf given the game state. Probably be easier to just clear baudi and ride his overconfident read train to the station.

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Originally Posted by Cory

I was always mean

(let me troll around on a new forum for awhile pls :()

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Fine, you're lucky you're such a charming soab my friend.

Like the last two-three pages were the first time I got to see people genuinely react to me staring them down because they don't know me like that yet

Sometimes it sucks to always play in games where ~75% of the players know you, and know your reputation, and know how you play and I know I can't really bait them

You know what drives me crazy on other forums? Players are terrified of pushing me, especially wolves. It was almost exhilarating being an environment where people were threatening to vote me. It was new and exciting and it watching them believe it would mean something was a little cupid's arrow in my heart

But you know I love you SIU, so you can take any snip at you with a smile - I just have no fucking clue how to read you :D

There's a pretty decent read that can be made on me, curious to see if anyone does.

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Originally Posted by Cory

Like the last two-three pages were the first time I got to see people genuinely react to me staring them down because they don't know me like that yet

Sometimes it sucks to always play in games where ~75% of the players know you, and know your reputation, and know how you play and I know I can't really bait them

You know what drives me crazy on other forums? Players are terrified of pushing me, especially wolves. It was almost exhilarating being an environment where people were threatening to vote me. It was new and exciting and it watching them believe it would mean something was a little cupid's arrow in my heart

But you know I love you SIU, so you can take any snip at you with a smile - I just have no fucking clue how to read you :D

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lol of course man, and the feeling is mutual, both on the love and having no idea how to read you:p.

I think considering the starting numbers making it ~80% that any given player is a villager I am willing to give you a larger than usual benefit of the doubt and hope you are a villager prepping to CRUSH

Sweep or go home imo

kinda think gabe and JDS are villa. gabe's reads seem fluid and JDS has villagery thought process. I can already tell based off his few posts so far that he's one of the better players I've seen post in this game tho so not gonna lock that in yet. But his thought process in 179-180 is super solid, and is the way a villager should be thinking about the game.

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Originally Posted by Cory

I think considering the starting numbers making it ~80% that any given player is a villager I am willing to give you a larger than usual benefit of the doubt and hope you are a villager prepping to CRUSH

Sweep or go home imo

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Sweep not gonna be easy at all in this format imo, I mean don't get me wrong I'm more than okay with going for it but I'd be very surprised if we pull it off.

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Originally Posted by gabe

villager baudib that i know always has some clues

lynch baudib

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Oh boy this post is really not good

Gabe has the weirdest posting style I've seen in recent memory.

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Originally Posted by baudib

for instance this post by SIU is largely true but an extreme overreaction to a pretty simple point:

Ship is slightly more likely to post in this fashion as a wolf than a villager.

When someone says, "I do this in both roles" or "it's role-neutral" etc., this is also a pretty big red flag and often isn't true.

SIU did in fact post entirely in this manner for a whole game, as a wolf, and he hasn't done that as a villager. Thus, starting the game like that isn't a good sign, because it's not his normal opening. As for the times I had "copied" his style, I was a wolf 60% of the time (3 of 5).

Anyway, SIU is on the back burner until he and Kami talk ITT.

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No it wasn't, you were posting something incorrect so I told you the reasons why you were incorrect.

The underlined is irrelevant because I haven't posted in that way afterwards, and you should know better than to assume I would copy a line like that as a wolf anyway.

I think rascal is villa

I don't get Gabe and I've played tons of games with him. He crushes souls in WW in both roles.

I'll tell you that if 2 of Gabe, Gator and JKDS are wolves we'll have a serious problem (Ong too, but he's not a wolf).

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Originally Posted by baudib

I mean it was spectacular FPS. one wolf fakeclaimed seer with a guilty on a wolfbro, that wolfbro fakeclaimed angel, and the third wolf fakeclaimed seer with a guilty on the other wolf. that happened on D2 after a villager was lynched and shot by the vig.

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Don't forgte we attacked a wolf at night in the hope he was protected, in an effort to clear him.

That game was my most enjoyable fail.

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Originally Posted by ShipItUp

I think rascal is villa

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wat, why

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Don't forgte we attacked a wolf at night in the hope he was protected, in an effort to clear him.

That game was my most enjoyable fail.

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yeah, I thought about doing that once in a no-reveal game but didn't. shoulda

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Originally Posted by Kami

Also baudib ship says mindmd of as a wolf all the time to pocket people

He a sketchy soab

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Originally Posted by Kami

He likes to suck up tbh

Or maybe just to me idk

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Neither of these are right lol, except the sketchy soab part, that's obv true.