My head hurts now. I was convinced it was gator but damn, his last few posts are screaming villager
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My head hurts now. I was convinced it was gator but damn, his last few posts are screaming villager
Which of wuf or rascal would have not poisoned me last night? The other is the wolf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luco
Wuf can't be the poisoned. I think a power role claims 100% of the time while poisoned, which he did not
Poisoner*
I don't think wuf has any knees
Then he is most likely the wolf and rascal is the poisoner.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace
Oh awesome it seems that I have been peeked.
I'm fine with a lynch wuf
not my game, indeed. ;)
agreedQuote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
rescind
lynch wuf
Although it was pretty early in the day when he was cured. He may have been waiting a bit to see if that happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace
I do think the poisoner needs to out today just to make sure he lives and I think it is down to either Wuf or Rascal.
rescind until poisoner outs
Yep. Just remember to check in in case we need your voteQuote:
Originally Posted by HiFi
Everybody needs to rescind until the poisoner outs. If the poisoner doesn't out lynch me.
still dont know what wifom is. looked it up several times. still cant remember. somebody explain itQuote:
Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace
how?Quote:
Originally Posted by Luco
gator is one of the best at posting v-like as a wolf fyi. the clues are in other things, like his total crap argument for rascal. go back and look at it. it's not even an argument. he constructed no case. it was bunch of non sequitur. gator is a much better hunter than that, which means he's either the wolf or not on his a-game (or b-game)
on all of ftr, gator is the player who concedes the latest. i *think* he did it in a role madness game where it was totally locked up and he had faked as some really wacky special (but i dont recall). another time he didn't even "concede" after he died and his name was red. he typically goes to his dying breath. only keybored out-muscles him in that regard.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Wine In Front Of MeQuote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
It means when you're overthinking a scenario to the point of vacillating between two contrary conclusions.
BTW: game is locked. If you're the poisoner, you can safely out and lock it up 100%. The analysis to as much has been done by many in thread, so go over it and then claim.
OKQuote:
Originally Posted by GatorJH
rescind wuf
fwiw gator is one of the last people to wifom. ive literally never seen it from him as a villager.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
Wuf, are you the poisoner? If so, please out.
You gotta admit that one was pretty awesome. I was thisclose to selling it to!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
I may have to find that one just for good times.
That game was not locked up at that time, IIRC. It was World War Werewolf, and I think it was the only game I've ever been a PR.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Yes, his claim was something like, "I am the leader of all the things. If I die, then the village loses by default." Except a lot better than that, but basically the same sentiment.
JKDS nailed you, though. In the end, I voted with JKDS, I think. 'Cause he posted that evil grinning Dexter gif at EOD, and it's burned in my brain how skurred I was that JKDS just pwned me.Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorJH
YEAH!! I will post the link to that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
This was also a good one. It came down to me (wolf), rilla and wuf. Wuf made the right call to lynch me on the last day.
http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...195297-24.html
Link for above referenced game
I was talking about this game and this fake claim.Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorJH
Here it is - I describe the role in post 1003 and it took through post 1217 to lynch me. Good times, good times.
http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...196348-14.html
Yeah, my link was to the game where it got down to me, rilla and wuf.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
I don't know what wifom is either. Why u quoted my post to say that, I don't knowQuote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Wuf isn't claiming poisoner so I bet he is the last wolf.
double check my math. blue is cv, red is wolf, purple is poisoner, green is poisoned target.
SCENARIO 1
assuming nom in dark and hits poisoner. assuming mmm is poisoner
d4 players
Beck Novo
Hifi
SuperMonkeyFace
lilrascal
Luco
MadMojoMonkey
OngBonga
Wufwugy
GatorJH
d4n4 actions
lynch wuf
poison luco
peek rascal
nom mmm
d5 players
Beck Novo
Hifi
SuperMonkeyFace
lilrascal
Luco poisoned
OngBonga
GatorJH
d5n5 actions
lynch ong
luco succumbed
nom beck
d6 players
Hifi
SuperMonkeyFace
lilrascal
GatorJH
lynch gator ftwwwwwww!
**** SCENARIO 1 PART 2: assume beck peeks the nommed target accidentally and rascal is not cv ****
d6n6 actions
lynch rascal
nom hifi
d7 players
SuperMonkeyFace
GatorJH
wolfy wolf gator wiiiiiiiinns!
SCENARIO 2
assuming beck nom. assuming poisoner is mmm and nommed next
d4 players
Beck Novo
Hifi
SuperMonkeyFace
lilrascal
Luco
MadMojoMonkey
OngBonga
Wufwugy
GatorJH
d4n4 actions
lynch wuf
poison rascal
nom beck
d5 players
Hifi
SuperMonkeyFace
lilrascal poisoned
Luco
MadMojoMonkey
OngBonga
GatorJH
d5n5 actions
luco lynched
rascal succumed
ong poisoned
mmm nommed
d6 players
Hifi
SuperMonkeyFace
OngBonga poisoned
GatorJH
lynch gator ftwwwwwwwww!
if these are correct. the only way it is not locked up is if the seer poisoner and wolf hit the same target. so if this is correct, it means the poisoner needs to out and needs to confirm with beck which different targets they are going to hit
how do these change if the wolf noms a poisoned target?
off top of head im assuming if wolf hits poisoned target it's more than locked in for v win
you said wimming. i thought that was abrev for wifomQuote:
Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace
Why would the wolf ever not eat the cleared players? (i.e. HiFi, SMF, the Poisoner, and myself)Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
If the wolf wants to eat into the PoE then he only speeds up his inevitable demise.
yeah that became clear to me after i posted itQuote:
Originally Posted by Beck Novo
Yeah this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beck Novo
Also, I don't think it matters if seer & poisoner target the same person as the end result is the same (removal of that player from poe)
look at my post. if the poisoner is hit tonight and beck doesn't get a lookup, it's not cinched.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luco
Yes it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
oh wait yeah because smf would just heal himQuote:
Originally Posted by Luco
so why hasnt the wolf conceded
unless there's a way for the wolf to nom smf tonight and that be better for him. im not sure how that would be the case
I was just typing a post to explain this but you got there on your own :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Because they haven't posted since we did the math (rascal), or they have reasons for continuing that don't involve winningQuote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
well whatever im not going to draw this out, even if it means there is some small chance it isn't locked up. at least four of you seem to think it's locked, and my own analysis of it is that it's locked, so here it is
me poisoner
i suspect the last wolf was extremely close to figuring that out by now
lynch gatorQuote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
HI,
Spoiler:I'm Wufwugy.
in case you wanna know, here's my write up for my play
i poisoned siu. he was slanking and everybody skipped over him for gizmo for d1 lynch.
batm for the same slanking reasons. im not much of a soulreader, but i do think it's important for vigs to weed out the players most untethered (and subsequently hardest to read and biggest endgame liabilities).
smf for the "most untethered" reasons. plus his soft hard soft claim was so weird that it couldnt have come from a seer and was very unlikely to have come from a vanilla. i could see what he did as a wolf plus an iso of him looked worse than gator's. mainly i just didnt wanna hit the seer, and i thought he was never seer so it was fine.
my play strategy was to slip inside that tiny box where you're unlynchable as well as unnommable. so i had to play a little carelessly and rustle some jimmies, while also getting cleared in doing so. wolves have a really hard time nomming players they think the village is not happy with, but i have a history of being able to get cleared by the village by making them unhappy so i figured i could do it.
my self bold was me trying to say "if you really want me dead then you'll get your wish", becuase i thought it was a powerful way to make villagers not want to lynch me and wolves not want to nom me
WIM = want it moreQuote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Awesome.
Any CCs?
(Please CC.)
Lynch Gator
Gator there's 18 hours left and no MAJ in force, props to you if you wanna play it out but you've already more than earned your arooo
PoE
Gator, MMM, lilrascal, Luco, Ong
One today, two tomorrow, two the final day.
@baud, if the final wolf doesn't concede, can we play like hour long days/nights?
Withholding vote to avoid maj
Theres no maj till MYLOQuote:
Originally Posted by HiFi
This is what I was holding out for.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
I had you as posioner and was totally nomming you tonight, hoping beck peeks you. Not happening now.
I concede.
Arooooo motherfuckers.
WhaaatQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Fucking wp
great job ong!
i am pretty astonished at how well everybody else was a so emphatically clearing themselves from being a special. even without that, the poison patterns point towards me. i didnt think there was much that could be done about that though.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Yeah I'm pleased that noone had me pegged after d2, but we fucked up with boog's claim. If he holds his backup claim for a day, we win. So close, but i crunched the numbers a day too late.
wp village.
wolf and dead threads?
fwiw it's much easier to play wolf when everyone thinks you're a villager. I pretty much convinced myself I was a villager, I had to stop myself from pointing out the poisoner needs to out today!
I don't think this is going public. I believe one of the wolves is reserving his/her right to privacy in this regard. As far as I'm concerned, it's up to him/her is he/she wants it public.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Yeah I've found this tooQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
You had so so so so much in your favour this game
Hardon for drew
pushing for aubrey
Advising against a gizmo lynch
SHOOTING AUBREY
pushing hard at boog
it goes on and on
Don't forget drew blasting the only wolf having any serious chance of winning.
I don't think I'm ever getting village cred again after this game.
luco I was convinced you were seer, but I had the luxury of taking out the confirmed special last night, and waiting for a claim.
wuf hitting SMF was a) bad because it should've been obvious he was healer or last wolf, a lost cause for him anyway, b) offered me a lifeline because it kept gator vanilla in the game (I knew he was vanilla, our only peek was bigred), and c) told me that wuf was poisoner because I know how much he hates following village stratgey when special.
I'd probably have concede much earlier had wuf posioned gator.
That tooQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
The seer is this game is perfect, fwiw. That a seer can be this deep and still the game isn't always locked is outstanding.
This may be the best wolf game ive ever seen from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
I tip my hat
In all honesty, Ong, I would've guessed you were the last wolf last of any of the players left in the PoE.
Mostly based upon your early interactions with BID.
wasnt the village strategy to poison smf if boog flipped w?
it isnt that i dont like village strategy on specials, but i dont read them. things are better without specials talk because the natural state is for villagers to be adept at showing their vanillaness when discussing specials and for specials to have a hard time of keeping from giving out tells when talking specials
You have the luxury of not having seen me as wolf before, so it doesn't surprise me. People here know I can be easy to read with my tone, and here I did an great job of playing my villager game thanks to the fact I didn't have to defend myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beck Novo