Ultimate Werewolf

Looks good
Luco
Dhuber
Keith

Feels good
Rong
JKDS*

null/neutral
Gator
Daven
Aubrey
Gabe

skeptical face
Big Red
Wufwugy
Keybored
BID

-- Sorta in order, but within tiers there's probably high variance.
I really want to move Daven up to villager status. But as he has gotten increasingly villagery I keep having this creeping horror that he never thought he'd get spotted on D1 and is now amped up his game. It seems like his reactions and reads have been legit.
-- I had a village lean on Monstr although it was weak. The thing he did that I found wolfy (for him) was he posted a mega reads list in the Champs game, which he never does. He basically kinda floats along and spontaneously makes comments as a villager. I think I will be able to objectively view Gator more than I would Monstr. Also, Gator is 100X the wolfhunter as Monstr.
-- I'm incorporating other people's reads into Aubrey because I haven't been impressed by what she's done. Admittedly, those reads are mostly by somewhat questionable characters.
-- Had to move Gabe down barring exploration of his "who wants to form an alliance?" post.

keybored sits in his rocking chair on the porch surrounded by the rest of the village, he's telling them a tale of a situation similar to the one they're now in.

"Course in my day things were simple. You had your villager, and you had your wolf. An honest battle of wits between man and beast. By gum we used to string them wolves up right quick, none of this pussy footing around with discussion and reasoning."

"So what do we do?" asks Luco.

"Well son firstly you've got to know how your average wolf thinks. I've spent time with them and come to understand their ways & motivations. In a way I almost became one of them."

wuf looks up from his copy of "Communism for Dummies" and says " did you just say you're a wolf?"

But keybored has already drifted off for his after dinner nap.

"GET HIM" screams drew.

The mob throws keybored into the pond. dhuber worries how the fish will react.

What a waste of a regular villager.

The Village
dhuber
BID
Luco
wuf
bigred
baudib
JKDS
keith
daven
aubrey
gabe
Gator
rong


Seer
Priest
Tough Guy
5 Regular Villagers
Miller
Cursed Villager
3 Wolves


MMM, a regular villager, was lynched day 1.
Ong, a regular villager, was killed by the wolves on night 1.
keybored, a regular villager, was lynched day 2.

Night 2

Anyone who has night actions please do them.

Sleep tight everyone.

Being heavily in debt is a terrible thing, even if the currency is matchsticks.

gabe is rummaging through dhuber's kitchen drawers trying to find a box of matches. He'd thought about trying to beat BID at PLO instead, but what's the point? All his soulreading abilities were useless against drew's impenetrable mind. If he could get some sticks while everyone else slept then hopefully BID would stop pestering him tomorrow.

"Finally" says gabe as he pulls out a rather old box of matchsticks.

Suddenly he becomes aware of a shadowy figure standing in the doorway.

"It's alright drew I can pay you back right now"

The figure gives a throaty chuckle, "I doubt you can pay my price human".

"Oh wait, that whole werewolf thing" says gabe. He'd known the solution ages ago but forgot about it with the more pressing matchstick problem.

gabe, a regular villager, was killed by the wolves on night 2.

Day 3

Day 3 will last 72hrs.

7 votes to lynch!

The Village
dhuber
BID
Luco
wuf
bigred
baudib
JKDS
keith
daven
aubrey
Gator
rong


Seer
Priest
Tough Guy
4 Regular Villagers
Miller
Cursed Villager
3 Wolves


MMM, a regular villager, was lynched day 1.
Ong, a regular villager, was killed by the wolves on night 1.
keybored, a regular villager, was lynched day 2.
gabe, a regular villager, was killed by the wolves on night 2.

damnit, gg Gabe

I spent last night reading one of Gabe's wolf games and I thought I picked up on a tell that Rilla mentioned.

Way too much blue in the dead list, but at least it wasn't green.

lunch bugrud

EOD votes for those interested in this type of thing.


Day 1
MMM - 7 (wuf, rong, dhuber, aubrey, BID, daven, Ong)
daven - 6 (baudib, keybored, Luco, MMM, bigred, monstrman)
keybored - 1 (keith)
monstrman - 1 (gabe)
no vote - JKDS

Day 2
keybored- 6 (keith, JKDS, gabe, wuf, daven, rong)
BID - 1 (Luco)
wuf - 1 (baudib)
JKDS - 1 (BID)
aubrey - 1 (bigred)
Gator - 1 (keybored)
No vote - (aubrey, Gator, dhuber)

Lynch Keith

Lynch bigred


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Yo peeps. First comment - It's Day 3 and you guys are just now getting around to lynching bigred? Wassup with dat??

actually wait, rescind bigred lynch gator

i think the wolves were very aware that with gator subbing for monstr, he would be all over killing gator. i was thinking about what the sub for monstr meant, and wasnt sure, but with gabe being nommed, i think it means gator is likely wolf

^^"he" meaning gabe

yeah, cuz that's the level 0 thinking you get when I am a wolf.

It's nice to know that you can still pwn yourself wuf.

not happy about the keybored flip, I don't understand what he was doing - post game I'll be interested in reading what the dead thread thought of what was going on around his behaviour. I'm going to re-read the thread yet again, but i'm a bit lost right now. I was lock confident that keybored was one of the bad guys, and i was pretty sure that the gabe image post meant something.

re the gabe nom - the wolves were free-rolling on this one. If they thought there was a decent chance he was cursed then they win either way - either they get a fourth wolf on board or they kill a strong villager.

I'm pretty keen on the bigred lynch based on what's gone down overnight and his content thus far - but I'm hesitant to bold early until i've read through knowing that both gabe and keybored are villagers.

Gabe nom looks good for Daven IMO.

Man, every one of baudib's posts just seems wolfy to be.

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It's nice to know that you can still pwn yourself wuf.

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im just so special

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Originally Posted by GatorJH

Yo peeps. First comment - It's Day 3 and you guys are just now getting around to lynching bigred? Wassup with dat??

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mmm village fps-spewed day one and as a result couldn't be allowed to get to mid-game
keybored did a lot of weird shit yesterday and then dis some weird fps around the seer once his wagon had taken off and looked lock wolf

moral of the story? village fps is stupid.

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

im just so special

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aww, fuck it. Lynch wuf.

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Originally Posted by rong

Man, every one of baudib's posts just seems wolfy to be.

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Im trying to decipher whether he made that post on gabe, specifically so he can claim TWTBAW. I dont know why a villager would even talk about it.

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Originally Posted by dhubermex

Lynch Keith

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because he thought a villager was a wolf? same as i did? or other reasons?

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Originally Posted by rong

Man, every one of baudib's posts just seems wolfy to be.

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I agree with this somewhat but am holding off for now because Keybored was so convinced of baudib being a Villager. Keith has to be at the top of the lynch list I would think.

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Im trying to decipher whether he made that post on gabe, specifically so he can claim TWTBAW. I dont know why a villager would even talk about it.

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just cos there's an acronym thread doesn't mean we should start using stupid fucking acronyms all through this one.
I propose keeping shit like twbtbaw and wifm and wim out of these games, as rong said, the people most keen on them are post-spewing anyway

gg key, gabe. welcome gator

as always gabe is a self resolving puzzle.

Will read through in the morning

Nomming Gabe is obviously standard but IMO he was starting to look lynchable, especially considering the cat alliance thing.

So I think the Gabe nom should be viewed as at least a partial seer/cursed hunt.

if the wolves thought Gabe was seer I think this at least partially clears Daven.

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Originally Posted by gabe

daven village
aubrey village
baudib village
dhuber - village
bid - village
key bored - wolf? - 464 dissonance, 549 wolf pattern words
keith - i don’t get a good read on what he’s thinking like i do the other villagers, but i thought his breakdown of keybored on #560 strengthened what i was thinking about keybored. since i like his attack i think keith should be safe
wuf - disagree with his reads but nothing wolfy stood out. ong said “wuf is a wolf if mojo and daven are both villagers, that I'm 95% sure about.” but i think its more likely wuf is reading the situation wrong as a villager.

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because he thought a villager was a wolf? same as i did? or other reasons?

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For one, Keith's contributions haven't been that great in my opinion. I indeed backed his play on Day #1 because I was so hell-bent on getting MMM lynched, but since then his jabs at Keybored (who I argued all along was Villager... don't know how so many players thought he was a Wolf) have been really pointed.

Luco wasn't impressed with Keith from the start from what I remember. Keybored had Keith and BID at the top of his Wolf list... are we going to listen to dead Villagers this time around or play the style that lost it for the Village last match?

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Originally Posted by JKDS

Im trying to decipher whether he made that post on gabe, specifically so he can claim TWTBAW. I dont know why a villager would even talk about it.

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I'm talking about it because i wasted a night trying to figure out Gabe's alignment and thought I was onto something.

fuck the acronyms. they can get a wifom 'e asshole for all i care

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Originally Posted by baudib

Nomming Gabe is obviously standard but IMO he was starting to look lynchable, especially considering the cat alliance thing.

So I think the Gabe nom should be viewed as at least a partial seer/cursed hunt.

if the wolves thought Gabe was seer I think this at least partially clears Daven.

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yep, you look wolf bro
rescind wuf,
lynch baudib.

changed my mind about no quick lynch, baudib is screaming wolf here
we can never know whether or not the wolves thought gabe was seer, but it's far more likely they were going with cursed/strong villager if wrong equity, with about a random chance of seer hit vs the rest of the field. Or better than random if they've got a list of villagers who they think probably are not the seer.
I don't see anything in that post of gabe's that you have quoted that looks like a seer leaving clues.

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Originally Posted by baudib

I'm talking about it because i wasted a night trying to figure out Gabe's alignment and thought I was onto something.

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what had you concluded? more likely wolf or villager? why?

and Keybored, sorry for being harsh. I did think you played well early, but it was a pretty frustrating waiting for you, for you to troll us and make us wonder if you could be the seer led to an entire wasted day.

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Originally Posted by daven

what had you concluded? more likely wolf or villager? why?

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given that you thought about it all night you can obviously post your conclusion and reasoning immediately. wolf.

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Originally Posted by daven

what had you concluded? more likely wolf or villager? why?

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more likely villager.

Rilla had said about (wolf) Gabe that he sounded "awfully sane," and talked about how cryptic he often is. I thought he was being somewhat cryptic here, more so than he was in Gold Rush as well.

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Originally Posted by baudib

and Keybored, sorry for being harsh. I did think you played well early, but it was a pretty frustrating waiting for you, for you to troll us and make us wonder if you could be the seer led to an entire wasted day.

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i'm convinced keybored's play was pretty bad once he became the likely lynch. Villager trolling villager is pretty stupid obviously, i don't think he was trolling. I think he was trying to do something smart, but I have no idea what that was.

Nope, Baudib's find on gabe there makes me think hes villagery. Im not someone that can read him, but i thought it more likely that they were seer hunting than cursed hunting. Especially considering that key's play will help reveal the seer. Its more likely imo that they saw something that made gabe seem seer'y.

@Dhub: I want to lynch keith too. Hes not paranoid enough for villager keith.

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Originally Posted by baudib

more likely villager.

Rilla had said about (wolf) Gabe that he sounded "awfully sane," and talked about how cryptic he often is. I thought he was being somewhat cryptic here, more so than he was in Gold Rush as well.

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care to highlight some of those cryptic posts?

-- His reasoning on lynching Monstr, I couldn't make heads or tails of it
-- his back and forth on MMM, at the time I couldn't tell if he was advocating leaving him alone or lynching him
-- "Anyone want to form an alliance?" with cat shelter sign

@Daven: If gabe were seer, a list of villagers would have look ups at the top.

lynching any of the most active players is shit. everybody in that bunch has some decent-to-great claim to vilhood

let's lynch somebody who doesnt have any of that claim whatsoever. gutur or bugrud or bud to start

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@Daven: If gabe were seer, a list of villagers would have look ups at the top.

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you really think a gabe=seer would look me up on night one?
i recall gabe posting that he can read me as villager more than once in other games.

does monstr even get subbed if he's a villager? probably not

let's just hope gator's not the priest or some shit. he's probably a wolf tho

Thats dumb. Key and Ong were the most active last game, they were both wolves.

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Originally Posted by daven

you really think a gabe=seer would look me up on night one?
i recall gabe posting that he can read me as villager more than once in other games.

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if twtbaw is too wolfy to be a wolf then can we make tdtms into too daven to make sense

[wuf][baudib][bigred] looks like the game to me

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Originally Posted by JKDS

Thats dumb. Key and Ong were the most active last game, they were both wolves.

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that's not the argument. the argument is that among all of those who have been bickering, everybody has some decent-to-strong vilcred. but there are a handful of players who have zero vilcred. lynch one of them

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Originally Posted by daven

you really think a gabe=seer would look me up on night one?
i recall gabe posting that he can read me as villager more than once in other games.

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I dont know how gabe thinks or reads you. But many players found you wolfy, so you're not a bad look up generally and you would never be nommed by the wolves.

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

does monstr even get subbed if he's a villager? probably not

let's just hope gator's not the priest or some shit. he's probably a wolf tho

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I explained why Monstr subbed.

So what is more wolfy, trying to use the Gabe nom to clear someone, like me, or to try to cast shade on perhaps the best wolfhunter we have left?

lynch wuf

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Originally Posted by daven

[wuf][baudib][bigred] looks like the game to me

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add jkds and then i'll cover off cursed as well as the three wolves

twtl should be too wuf to lose. because let's be honestly, im unlosable

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Originally Posted by baudib

I explained why Monstr subbed.

So what is more wolfy, trying to use the Gabe nom to clear someone, like me, or to try to cast shade on perhaps the best wolfhunter we have left?

lynch wuf

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1. if gabe was right, then he's really really right since gator is playing

2. does your explanation include the reason why he wouldnt just drift into the mist as a villager? he could very easily just stop posting and nobody would know shit and it would be long after now that we would see a problem with it. but no, this quick sub means he was either more than a villager or that he notified the mod, none of which you should have any access to

so after gator flips wolf so do you

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

twtl should be too wuf to lose. because let's be honestly, im unlosable

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i cant believe i fucking grammar'd this. here i am trying to punch some butts and all i get is egg on my nads

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For one, Keith's contributions haven't been that great in my opinion. I indeed backed his play on Day #1 because I was so hell-bent on getting MMM lynched, but since then his jabs at Keybored (who I argued all along was Villager... don't know how so many players thought he was a Wolf) have been really pointed.

Luco wasn't impressed with Keith from the start from what I remember. Keybored had Keith and BID at the top of his Wolf list... are we going to listen to dead Villagers this time around or play the style that lost it for the Village last match?

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its pretty simple dhber .... villagers find it easy to answer questions . Idiots thinking they are clever by not answering questions put to them and fake hinting at special roles tend to get lynched. The more he refused to answer the guiltier he looked.You want to lynch MMM for his FPS ...yet keybored is your hero for the stupid BS FPS he pulled.How about you actually start looking for evidence of contradictions.The reasons for my lynches are always argued out so that the target can refute them . Your reasoning is little more than scapegoating because an idiot died.

keybored didnt look like he did when he was a wolf. problem is he's a tough read and when he quasi seer outed it couldnt be true

Keith, who are the wolves and why

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keybored didnt look like he did when he was a wolf. problem is he's a tough read and when he quasi seer outed it couldnt be true

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who was your lynch candidate yesterday wuf? even after he quasi seer outed? easy to claim retrospective genius, it's way more impressive when it's done in realtime.

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Originally Posted by baudib

I'm not worried about Monstr. I'm sure I'll be able to clear him by D2 if he's a villager. He has about a billion villager tells and anyway, he is the GOAT at clearing himself and a terrible wolf (allegedly).

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and? stop talking about what he did as a wolf in some other game, and instead tell us whether he's villager or not based on his villager tells.

Luco is almost certainly a villager. He joked about switching to gator during keybored's final hour. I dont think a wolf does that when the wolves may think key was the seer.

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

1. if gabe was right, then he's really really right since gator is playing

2. does your explanation include the reason why he wouldnt just drift into the mist as a villager? he could very easily just stop posting and nobody would know shit and it would be long after now that we would see a problem with it. but no, this quick sub means he was either more than a villager or that he notified the mod, none of which you should have any access to

so after gator flips wolf so do you

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How does this make sense? Monstr subbing out is role-neutral at worst and frankly, him not coming back here gives him a villager lean. I don't know when or if he notified the mod and I didn't know if he intended to go back to the Champs game.

In the Champs game, he told the story of what happened to him, I think Friday or Saturday. He made an epic reads list in that game and a bunch of posts about why he didn't want anyone to clear him because of what happened to him. He was a wolf.

I kept that secret because A. it should be private and he posted immediately that he didn't want to get into any details and B. because I thought I located a wolf tell on him.

Your line makes no sense because if I were w/w with him, I'd be here making excuses for him before he subs out instead of trying to trap him. The fact that he felt more responsibility to try to post as a wolf looks good for him here IMO, and he was more in his spontaneous villager mode.

And incidentally, Gabe went to great lengths to argue that I'm a villager, and he's right about that. He was wrong about Keybored though, who he's seen play before.

@ baudi - i'm reading through day 1 and gabe is sounding far more sane and straightforward than cryptic.
who are your wolf buddies this game?

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Originally Posted by baudib

How does this make sense? Monstr subbing out is role-neutral at worst and frankly, him not coming back here gives him a villager lean. I don't know when or if he notified the mod and I didn't know if he intended to go back to the Champs game.

In the Champs game, he told the story of what happened to him, I think Friday or Saturday. He made an epic reads list in that game and a bunch of posts about why he didn't want anyone to clear him because of what happened to him. He was a wolf.

I kept that secret because A. it should be private and he posted immediately that he didn't want to get into any details and B. because I thought I located a wolf tell on him.

Your line makes no sense because if I were w/w with him, I'd be here making excuses for him before he subs out instead of trying to trap him. The fact that he felt more responsibility to try to post as a wolf looks good for him here IMO, and he was more in his spontaneous villager mode.

And incidentally, Gabe went to great lengths to argue that I'm a villager, and he's right about that. He was wrong about Keybored though, who he's seen play before.

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touchy much eh

he would so easily put less charisma into exiting his wolfing here than other forums he plays on

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and? stop talking about what he did as a wolf in some other game, and instead tell us whether he's villager or not based on his villager tells.

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I posted it in my EOD2 list. I had a slight village lean on him, he did a few but not all of the things he usually does as a villager, like he starts out spazzy and kind of jokey, and got irritated irritated under pressure. It wasn't his 100% "I'm a villager range," but his early games are usually filled with meta-based reads comments, i.e. "XXX is posting too much to be a wolf," "YYY is certainly a villager when he does A, B, C."

Typically my progression on Monstr goes like this: Early D1 I think he's a villager, then I start tinfoiling on him when he goes absent for a while. Then by D2 or D3 he becomes a very obvious villa.

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@ baudi - i'm reading through day 1 and gabe is sounding far more sane and straightforward than cryptic.
who are your wolf buddies this game?

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shrug, I thought he was incredibly weird D1.

I don't think I was the only one who didn't get his take on Monstr/MMM

except you said shit about him this game. you just opened with some meh and then mums the word for two whole days. call me fresh but that's a little funky

Baud, why do you think kieth is a villa? You of all people should be aware of how different his game is this time around. Kieth usually has 8 or 9 different tinfoil hats on as a villager, and I havent seen so much as 1 this game. Why isnt that peculiar to you?

why does baud not like gabe's read? wuf likes gabe's read. wuf didnt like gabe's read when wuf didnt know gabe was a villager. but now wuf sees.

msg gabe: remember how you said your reads have been on point but it looks like they havent been due to bad wolf and ghost angel performances? well, if gator is a wolf, then you're back in top spot, buddy. only problem is you're not my buddy, guy

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Baud, why do you think kieth is a villa? You of all people should be aware of how different his game is this time around. Kieth usually has 8 or 9 different tinfoil hats on as a villager, and I havent seen so much as 1 this game. Why isnt that peculiar to you?

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I only played with Keith when he was a W once, and he seems different this game. His wolf %equity obviously is up with Keybored flipping V.

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

why does baud not like gabe's read? wuf likes gabe's read. wuf didnt like gabe's read when wuf didnt know gabe was a villager. but now wuf sees.

msg gabe: remember how you said your reads have been on point but it looks like they havent been due to bad wolf and ghost angel performances? well, if gator is a wolf, then you're back in top spot, buddy. only problem is you're not my buddy, guy

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Gabe wanted a Keybored/Wuf wagon before he died, do you like that?

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Gabe wanted a Keybored/Wuf wagon before he died, do you like that?

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sure. hop on let's see what happens

looks like ong's final wolf picks were jkds and wuf.

then let's do jkds vs wuf vs gator

actually that's a terrible idea.

gator vs bigred. or more like gator vs gator.

jkds is not a good wagon today

Wuf, I like how you make all these associatives (that go against your villaging philosophy) with me, like I'm W-W with Gabe, and then when Gabe flips V, I'm somehow still a W even though he had me as villager. The story keeps changing so you keep changing it to fit into your agenda.

Like I said, I've been totally out of my wolf range since D1. I got nailed on D1 last game, do you really think that V Gabe, who soulread me last game, and V MMM, and V Ong and V Keybored, who were intimately familiar with my wolf game, all misread me that badly?

I'm sure as fuck not coming out D1 trying to provoke/stir up shit with Gabe if I'm W again, nor spending dozens of posts interacting with him.

Let's do Wuf-Big Red wagons

I'm not too far into reading the thread, but Gabe was ALL OVER monstr from the beginning and, tbh, his reasoning seemed very suspect imo. I am not sure how that makes me a wolf.

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Originally Posted by baudib

Wuf, I like how you make all these associatives (that go against your villaging philosophy) with me, like I'm W-W with Gabe, and then when Gabe flips V, I'm somehow still a W even though he had me as villager. The story keeps changing so you keep changing it to fit into your agenda.

Like I said, I've been totally out of my wolf range since D1. I got nailed on D1 last game, do you really think that V Gabe, who soulread me last game, and V MMM, and V Ong and V Keybored, who were intimately familiar with my wolf game, all misread me that badly?

I'm sure as fuck not coming out D1 trying to provoke/stir up shit with Gabe if I'm W again, nor spending dozens of posts interacting with him.

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This is pretty convincing.

Lets lynch Kieth or Bid.

Lynch Keith

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Originally Posted by baudib

Let's do Wuf-Big Red wagons

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Except for Bigred maybe being cursed, he seems villagery. Wuf is off, but keith is off-er and Bid is way outside his last two villager games as well. Hes back to being quiet and in the background, where he was pretty talkative and insightful as a villager recently. THeyre both wolves.

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Originally Posted by baudib

Wuf, I like how you make all these associatives (that go against your villaging philosophy) with me, like I'm W-W with Gabe, and then when Gabe flips V, I'm somehow still a W even though he had me as villager. The story keeps changing so you keep changing it to fit into your agenda.

Like I said, I've been totally out of my wolf range since D1. I got nailed on D1 last game, do you really think that V Gabe, who soulread me last game, and V MMM, and V Ong and V Keybored, who were intimately familiar with my wolf game, all misread me that badly?

I'm sure as fuck not coming out D1 trying to provoke/stir up shit with Gabe if I'm W again, nor spending dozens of posts interacting with him.

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you're one of the reasons i think all the high content players have at least decent-to-strong vilcred. i dont have my finger on you

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Let's do Wuf-Big Red wagons

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so bigred. gotcha

To be clear, these are my reads.

Wolves: Keith, BID
Off enough to be a wolf: Wuf
Null: Aubrey, Gator,
Prob vil: Bigred
Villagers for sure: literally everyone else. I cant see dhuber, luco, baudib, daven, or rong being wolves at this point. B

if bid is a wolf i am going to rewatch all seasons of dexter. that's how livid i'll be

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I'm not too far into reading the thread, but Gabe was ALL OVER monstr from the beginning and, tbh, his reasoning seemed very suspect imo. I am not sure how that makes me a wolf.

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this post is just bad enough to be std vilgator post. sigh

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

this post is just bad enough to be std vilgator post. sigh

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becuase everybody knows vilgator doesnt show up until HE FUCKING SHOWS UP YA KNOW WHATIMSAYIN

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Originally Posted by JKDS

Except for Bigred maybe being cursed, he seems villagery. Wuf is off, but keith is off-er and Bid is way outside his last two villager games as well. Hes back to being quiet and in the background, where he was pretty talkative and insightful as a villager recently. THeyre both wolves.

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I've been going over this, too.

When BID popped in and said

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

Doesn't make a whooooole lotta sense to post what keybored just posted while being a wolf.

Transfer to JKDS with me, anyone?

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3 mins after Keybored's reads list, it raised my eyebrows. I thought 100%e BID was trying to protect his wolf bro. With Key flipping V I don't know what to think of BID.

Why? What has he done to be a villager? Do you see that he is nowhere near his villager games from last time?

Hes been mostly quiet, his posts are two liners, his insights are rare to nonexistant, meanwhile he was posting paragraphs of thoughts and reads and etc as a villager the last 2-3 games. This isnt his usual villager game.

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Originally Posted by JKDS

To be clear, these are my reads.

Wolves: Keith, BID
Off enough to be a wolf: Wuf
Null: Aubrey, Gator,
Prob vil: Bigred
Villagers for sure: literally everyone else. I cant see dhuber, luco, baudib, daven, or rong being wolves at this point. B

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Can you explain your thoughts on Luco? He seems by far the most tone-pure player in the game.

oops I thought you said "can" not "cant"

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Originally Posted by JKDS

Why? What has he done to be a villager? Do you see that he is nowhere near his villager games from last time?

Hes been mostly quiet, his posts are two liners, his insights are rare to nonexistant, meanwhile he was posting paragraphs of thoughts and reads and etc as a villager the last 2-3 games. This isnt his usual villager game.

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yeah I agree that's why I bolded him on D2.

It could be that he's a wolf knowing Keybored would flip V and wanted to look like he was trying to save him.

I don't know if Wolf BID does shit like that though. But he was on the MMM wagon so maybe that's starting to become a bit too much V blood on his hands.

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Originally Posted by JKDS

Why? What has he done to be a villager? Do you see that he is nowhere near his villager games from last time?

Hes been mostly quiet, his posts are two liners, his insights are rare to nonexistant, meanwhile he was posting paragraphs of thoughts and reads and etc as a villager the last 2-3 games. This isnt his usual villager game.

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I guarantee Ong is screaming this in the dead thread right now

Thing is I'm not convinced. Ong always says he can read BID like the back of his dick, but I have always claimed that's an illusion and BID is unpredictable. But at this point, Ong would be saying that BID is a wolf because Ong has always said the main villager tell for BID is that he tries. Well now he ain't tryin

rescind gator lynch bid

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

jkds is not a good wagon today

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is this based on baudi's fps-seer-post?

can i lynch gator bigred and bid all at the same time?

Wuf just flailing about all over the place.


It's get tighter for him now that it's not so easy to call Daven the lockiest wolf of all time.

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Originally Posted by daven

is this based on baudi's fps-seer-post?

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it's based on a hunch

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Originally Posted by baudib

Wuf just flailing about all over the place.


It's get tighter for him now that it's not so easy to call Daven the lockiest wolf of all time.

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if im a wolf, the wolves dont lose. let that sink in for a second

ive been villager every single game for a goddamn millenium. let that sink in for a second

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Originally Posted by daven

is this based on baudi's fps-seer-post?

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it's not FPS it's totally standard.

#758

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

BTW, to give dues to the point Ong was trying to make, I think the ultimate result points towards Daven being a wolf. Ong kept asking "why wasn't MMM cinched if Daven is a wolf?" Well, here we are in a situation where Daven's wagon got really close to but never broke against MMM. If the wolves were thinking and active in the process, like Ong suggested they were, then this is exactly what the wagon dynamics would look like

Granted, I don't think the wolves were active in it. There's just three of them. One was probably on Daven already, one was probably on MMM, and one was probably picking his butthole.

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So here wuf is making an argument for daven being a wolf at the time that he was trying to get a wuf vs Daven wagon running.There appears to be a contradiction between the first paragraph and the second. In the first he's saying daven is a wolf , in the second hes talking about the three wolves being on various wagons . why isn't he saying that wolf daven was on MMMs wagon . Its as if he's forgotten that he's saying Daven is a wolf or miscalculating the number of wolves he has to represent . i.e theres three wolves he's got to account for them and forgotten that he's also said daven is a wolf.

#1024

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

im fine with keybored vs wuf.

rescind baud lynch keybored

the only lynch i am wholly not cool with is aubrey. she's a villager. she's probably only going to look at this thread like 5 more times for the whole game, if that. if she was a wolf, she would actually try to participate, but right now, villaging is literally the last thing on her mind

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This post is interesting because of what he says in the following post 5 minutes later.

#1025

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

two more things: i guarantee im wrong about daven/baud/gabe. i just, i fucking have to be. ive played enough games where i have epic reads and theyre always wrong

and like ive said in the past, early and mid game is all about setting up the late game. unlike in early game, my late game reads are super strong. ive said many times i dont think lynching wolves is that great in early game, and instead early game is about making the right lynches to set up a strong village that can cut through the chaff at the end.

of the low content players, i think jkds and luco are the most suspect, but eh i guess we have to wait to address those. these game days are seriously too long for me

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the interesting part is the second paragraph , Early game should be making the right lynches to make sure that a strong village cuts through the chaff at the end. The contradiction is that he is never lynching aubrey despite the fact that she will probably only look at the thread 5 more times and playing the game is the last thing on her mind. How is that ensuring we get a strong village at endgame. seems like ensuring a distracted player not tracking the thread gets to endgame. How is that in the best interest of the village?.

several times he's said that he's happy to be wagonned but not to cinch him before he gets a final post , seems like he would then fake out as the seer. He's been hinting at it regularly as well as mentioning the cursed villager

lynch wuf

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Originally Posted by Keith

#758

So here wuf is making an argument for daven being a wolf at the time that he was trying to get a wuf vs Daven wagon running.There appears to be a contradiction between the first paragraph and the second. In the first he's saying daven is a wolf , in the second hes talking about the three wolves being on various wagons . why isn't he saying that wolf daven was on MMMs wagon . Its as if he's forgotten that he's saying Daven is a wolf or miscalculating the number of wolves he has to represent . i.e theres three wolves he's got to account for them and forgotten that he's also said daven is a wolf.

#1024

This post is interesting because of what he says in the following post 5 minutes later.

#1025

the interesting part is the second paragraph , Early game should be making the right lynches to make sure that a strong village cuts through the chaff at the end. The contradiction is that he is never lynching aubrey despite the fact that she will probably only look at the thread 5 more times and playing the game is the last thing on her mind. How is that ensuring we get a strong village at endgame. seems like ensuring a distracted player not tracking the thread gets to endgame. How is that in the best interest of the village?.

several times he's said that he's happy to be wagonned but not to cinch him before he gets a final post , seems like he would then fake out as the seer. He's been hinting at it regularly as well as mentioning the cursed villager

lynch wuf

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hey dummy, if aubrey a lock villager then it doesnt matter how weak of a villager she may be, she should be kept around to the end

wolves should nom her. she might be a special. yes, she plays special like this. the only thing she doesnt play like this is wolf. if she is a wolf, im just gonna shake my head at her after the game and she's gonna feel bad. that's why she would never play wolf like this

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

if im a wolf, the wolves dont lose. let that sink in for a second

ive been villager every single game for a goddamn millenium. let that sink in for a second

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first part sounds like bragging. second part is utterly meaningless B.S. We're poker players FFS

Since you have so little experience at wolfing, I think it's interesting Gabe said this about you.

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Originally Posted by gabe

i am loving the heat on wuf right now. im starting to think hes a wolf. keybored and him both should not be wolves but its possible.
wuf has said lots of things where he considers a wolf's perspective in his reasoning. this is MUCH more common in wolves than villagers. i hardly ever do it as a villager because i'm trying to mostly catch people making mistakes with their words in other ways

to be clear its not a bad thing to consider a wolf's perspective, im just sure wolves do it way more while they are acting like villagers compared to villagers doing villagery stuff

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

hey dummy, if aubrey a lock villager then it doesnt matter how weak of a villager she may be, she should be kept around to the end

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I agree with this sentiment but this is totally different than your take on MMM, where you said you'd go back in a time machine and lynch him again, I assume even knowing he would flip V.

this over the guy you said you would lynch even if he claimed seer, lynched 2 wolves, etc.