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dana was a very savvy nom imo, and the savviest noms ive seen were from gator
gabe with the soul reads as usual. well done
Wow. I missed fucking loads, it's going to take some time for me to get back up to date. At first glance I'm still mega suspicious about wuf and bikes, but gator really needs scrutiny after his late vote saved wuf. Will have a reread from the start now I know Benny was a wolf.
Good read gabe. I actually thought you were the angel, glad I'm wrong.
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Originally Posted by wufwugy
I save your ass from the gallows and you start off the day suggesting I get lynched.
thanks buddy.
so you don't think JV (who has laid low this entire game) or Warpe or even Wuf would have offed Dan last night.
I'm not a wolf dude so let's try to spend the day finding one.
If JV, Warpe and Ragnar don't start posting VERY soon I am going to say let's start with them.
I also think DTB can post more content than he is and supa seems to come and go (but that could prolly be directly related to his binge drinking ;) ).
Btw, wuf I saved your ass because after reviewing the thread I think shotglass, you and hoopy are my top 3 candidates (beside lolzzz and gabe of course) for villager status.
I said all along that I thought wuf was a villager more than a wolf and as I said I think wuf the villager adds more value than fulksy the villager so I gave him a shot. If that makes me suspect then so be it but you really need to wonder if Gator a wolf would be so blatant about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Naw, you're right, I do owe you one. I thought I was giving you a compliment anywaysQuote:
Originally Posted by GatorJH
I owe everybody who hopped on fulksy's wagon actually. It doesn't get any more down to the wire than that
lolzzz we gotta hear from you before we move on
Gator, there's not many wolves who would have the bollocks to be so blatant, but I do believe you are capable of it. Thing is, if wuf's a wolf, you look suspect. But you know this, of course. So when wuf turns up villager, you look like a villager too. Wuf might be a villager after all.
Now you're suggesting we start putting pressure on the inactives, who are clearly disinterested villagers, and DTB, who's one of the few people capable of reading you.
All this after you nailed what I though was an obvious villager.
This is fishy.
gator, JV was one of the first to bold benny.. why suggest lynch him? didnt do your wolf homework?
Inactives aren't always disinterested villagers. As we talked about before, warpe has done exactly this as a wolf before. Does that mean he's a wolf now? No, but he's high on my suspect list because of it.
Although I thought the same thing about Gabe so yeah, fuck me.
Waiting for lolzzz is obv the best line to take now tho.
^ Hopefully he didn't look up benny lol.
JV bolded Benny shortly after and because of what I said about Benny, I think
So if wuf is a villager I am a wolf?Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
If we don't put pressure on the inactives that will become the defacto standard for the wolves, and has already proven to be effective in a few past games iirc.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
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Originally Posted by OngBonga
uhhhh, I am not the only one who thought he could be a wolf.
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Originally Posted by gabe
look at the timing of my post. Does it really look like I have taken the time yet to look through the thread?
Well, rag is obviously a villager at least, and the others now realise they're flirting with the coin if they remain inactive.
Fuck knows. You're both capable of sick levels. I haven't read through thoroughly yet, so I'm just ejaculating my initial thoughts, but you are definitely suspect. I wouldn't be at all surprised if you did that vote deliberately as a villager so you can get away with it in the future as a wolf.Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorJH
I wanna hear DTB's thoughts.
i agree with gator about the inactives. it sucks if 2 wolves are just lurking to make it to the end game.
i also think if the wolves had all been very active, they would need a wolf spokesman to convince the village to go after the quiet ones
And I'm back. I'm not going to apologize for going AFK, for the last 60+ hours. I had a family emergency. Long story short, a family got hit by another family member, and we had to move her out of his house.
Now, as far as what's going on. What an absolute shit storm of a day we had yesterday. Lollzzzz outing, I was here for that, Gabe outing, lolwut?
Waiting for Lolzzzzzzzz is a good idea, and I'm starting to wonder if the Ong/Wuf epic battle is going to kick back up.
Super importantly, I want to know why Ong jumped off the "look, kill wuf, and if you do, it obviously means I'm a wolf" logic line he was on. This is such a comitted argument, and now it seems he's forgotten he even made it. Is this some sort of epic level?
Not entirely interested in waiting for lolz since it might be end of tomorrow he shows up
uh oh gabe
the wolves went after danarong because he was on the list, they thought he was the angel
I'm not following you... what would you likeme to explain?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragnar4
Good shot, Gabe.
Glad to see you're still here, wuf.
I agree with putting pressure on the inactives.Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorJH
Nice shot Gabe. And Benny was on the wufwugy wagon with us so I suppose that could nominally clear wuf for now, although misdirection is always in play.
Hrm.
Whenever someone says something is 'clear' I get suspicious.
Hey look. there's warpe. Now how bout philly?
Why you're no longer willing to offer yourself up as a sacrifice to prove wuf is a wolf.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
why would you get into a mega pissing match only to let it cool off.
I've been in pissing matches with Wuf, before... it's the hardest pissing match to let die. 3 days later, and he and I still hate eachother... You letting go seems.... bad.
Wuf, why were you going after Gabe so hard when his role would be made clear by the end of the day?
Because for a time it was either him or me, and there were about a million reasons why his outing was likely fakeQuote:
Originally Posted by Shotglass
:hmm:
I'm still not entirely convinced gabe is the vig. I'm not gonna try to argue that he's not, and he very probably is, but mannnnnn some of that outing was just wrong
I guess it's just that gabisms are very real things
Read back thru most of the thread. Wuf is either a villager or there is some srsly sick levelling going on here.
So for me it's wuf, gabe, lolzzz and hoopy being villagers.
If gabe isn't the vig then the real vig is a dick. That or some kind of mad genius that I'll never understand. Or Bigred.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
that would make bigred a zombie - nice!
And I'm not entirely convinced that you are a villager, right now 60/40.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
hey bud....epic day yesterday, i still would have rather seen wuf go over fulksy because fulksy hadnt posted in like days so i figured it was pretty safe he was a villager. I said yesterday i wanted to see Benny gone after wuf, so im glad that he came back a wolf.Quote:
Originally Posted by supa
Still not sold on wuf's villagerness but im not going to start barking up that tree just yet.
I agree that dan a probably got killed because he was on that list, that means i should be one of the next to go, so ill try and contribute as much this day as possible.
I really need to go back and re read everything, but as of now im leaning towards supa being a wolf. Just a hunch really -____-
Supa: He fits the wolf profile.. not exactly trying to logic thigns out.. saying shit without backing it up. I've got to agree with Philly here. I'm not sold on Supa being a villager.
This sorta stuff very rarely actually pans out to be true.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Awesome.
if the medium is not lolzzz they should out themselves
also thanks for saving me last night angel!
Nice shot GabeQuote:
Originally Posted by gabe
I need to reread thru the entire thread to try to figure what the heck is going on
Given that Benny was a high profile wolf I think it is very likely that at least one of the remaining wolves was a low profile wolf.
Philly is becoming more and more suspecious, and I think he is currently my top wolf suspect
JV is so out of his element this game that it is just wierd, it seems too obvious if he was a wolf, which makes me doubt that.
I was really surprised at Gator's move at the end of the day to save Wuf, but I doubt he would do such a move as a wolf
I think we should wait for Lolllz to post, however if the info he has is one of a villager I dont think he should post it
I cooled off yesterday (ww) for one reason... I was busy. Then when I come back, there's actual info to sift through, there's load of new shit to take in. If people wanna lynch me because I'm leaving him alone at the moment, knock youselves out. When you see I'm a villager, you'll know to keep the heat on the likes of wuf, bikes and gator. I'm also starting to think shotglass could be a wolf, she's acting a bit weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragnar4
I'll be back at my home computer later, where I can refer to my notes. That's when I intend to have a good read of the thread.
Everyone doubts he would pull of such a move as a wolf, which is why he could be a wolf.Quote:
Originally Posted by TLR
definitely. If we can get to the point where the medium has 3 solid names I think we are golden.Quote:
Originally Posted by TLR
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Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics
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Originally Posted by Ragnar4
Supa has been high on my wolf list for a couple of days so I could be on board with that lynch.
Agreed that you can go as deep as you want in levels and each one will bring you to a different conclusion, howver there are 3 scenariosQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
1. Wuf is a wolf; Gator is a wolf - since Gator forced a tie it was a 50/50 flip between Wuf and Fulsky, and if Wuf would die Gator knew he will at least be looked up very soon
2. Wuf is a villager, Gator is a wolf - this is more sensible in a sense, in sort of a 'he would not do it if he was a wolf' but it still draws attention and suspecion on him, which may result in a lookup with little to gain
3. Gator is a villager and through Wuf is a villager - the simplest explanation of his behavior
This is pretty much why I've let up on wuf thus far today, I don't see them both being wolves (though they obv could be). I think gator can do this though to gain villager cred when we string up wuf and discover he's a villager, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by TLR
You missed one potential conclusion...
4. Gator is a villager and wuf is a wolf - I think balancing his villager game is part of his thought process.
He knows that his move last night is going to get him attention, he's stupid if he thinks it won't, and we all know he's not stupid. Why did he do it? He should know that fulksy gives us very little info, where wuf is an avalanche.
Nice soulread gabe.
Hopefully lolz posts soon, I'm feeling suspicious of philly and JV atm Warpe as well to some extent.
After re-reading through this thread there is one thing that wuf posted that has me pretty sold about him being a villager. Going from that, I doubt that Gator would make that blatant a move as a wolf. Prolly just the same thing I was thinking "what the hell, at least wuf is participating."Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Bikes is fishy, but I doubt that as a wolf he would have complained about Gabe outing so early.
Supa is really suspicious: a lot of posts and little infomation.
But one thing that you wrote has had me concerned since I read it. During your attack on wuf, you wroteSeriously, man. The only reason that you would refer to 'rilla in that post is to add credence to your claims. It's just the sort of day 1 & 2 level that wuf would coach you through so that he could brag about it later, but following what I wrote above about wuf, bikes and Gator, I'm more likely to believe that you were being coached by Benny.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
It's interesting that you come firing at me no sooner do I announce I think you might be a wolf.
I mentioned rilla because I felt that the village were giving my opinion less credit than they do for some of the regs... I understand why, of course, rilla is epic at this game and I'm a noob... but I felt at the time that the village were allowing the wolves to derail the wuf wagon by discreditting early soul reads. I wanted him strung up, at the time I thought he was like 70% wolf, and when he's a villager we get tons of info.
Truth is, I wasn't soulreading, I was generating discussion. I'm playing the game here, just because I said "he's a wolf" doesn't mean I think he's a wolf, I might just want to see who agrees with me. I didn't think gabe was a wolf, I thought he needs heat so he doesn't get nommed. And bikes just ties in nicely with wuf, or at least he did yesterday.
It's interesting you think I'm being coached by benny... very interesting that you would suggest it. Quick, before someone suggests you were being coached by him. He's dead now, who helped you with that post? wuf or gator?
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Originally Posted by Shotglass
Wow! I thought that you were a bit more advanced than to attempt this.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
I thought this was odd at the time, not because of the constant use of "he" (which a wolf would do for sure) but mainly because I'm aware of at least two games, actually maybe three, that shotglass has been involved in, yet shotglass did not feel it relevant to point that out. This post link shotglass to benny imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by BennyLaRue
This is the second time in a short space of time you mention benny and gator.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shotglass
This confused me, but I kept on at wuf and didn't bring it up. I mentioned nothing about wuf, benny and gator, so why did you say I did? This after you keep mentioning benny and gator.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shotglass
I'll be back on your case shortly, next up benny and gator...
next post, five minutes later...Quote:
Originally Posted by BennyLaRue
Shotglass posts 4 minutes later, adding his vote and some evidence against wuf.Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorJH
Wuf's silence wasn't puzzling, he was offline at the same time the previous day. Even I have a life, sometimes people are busy. More pressure on wuf, but a little more subtle.Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorJH
I'm only on page 5 of 15. I'm really thinking it's shotglass and gator.
Wow, man. You need to lay off the weed 'cause it's fucked up your memory. This is only my second game.
You never mentioned benny and gator, how about this:Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
and this:Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
But what concerns me most is that when Gabe bolded JV on day 2 this happened 20 minutes later:Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
and two minutes later:Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
It would make sense to have one active and one quiet wolf remaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by BennyLaRue
Prophetic?Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Maybe! I was expecting to die if wuf was lynched and turned up a villager, chance I was taking I guess. But, whatever, I'm not afraid of getting lynched, because then I become a confirmed villager and the village narrow the potential wolf field down. I appreciate I'm in the wolfy camp for some people, my death will provide info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shotglass
It seems I do need to lay off the weed, I could swear you were involved in at least one of my two other games, but not so. Lol I'm just rolling another spliff now.
Still think you're a wolf though. Your last post was coached. I'm making some mistakes, such as assuming you played with me before, and forgetting shit I said. Would I do that as a wolf? You're making some mistakes too, but instead of accepting them, you're deflecting attention.
A few people were saying that about me during last game also, but I just take it as a compliment that my posts seem that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Oh yeah, I'd be stupid to deny that I'm making any mistakes.
I'm not gonna bold yet, but you and JV are high on my list right now.
Maybe not but wolves would gloss over details in an attempt to deflect attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
sup, i didn't tap anyone last night because they both suck (fulksy and willbur)
Going after JV just looks suspicious to me... the guy is flirting with modkill, he's too much of a respected vet to play this way as a wolf. The only inactive that is on my radar is philly, all the others are obviously villagers, the wolf role doesn't come along very often and these regs would relish the chance to level the village. Let them be modkilled, it's better than wasting a lynch imo. I'd soonerpeople lynch me than an inactive.
AHAHA just read bennys post where he says he's the angel
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Shotglass defending gator is kinda odd?
Shotglass falling off the wuf wagon after following my lead so strongly is kinda odd.
Eh, true but I see only two options with Gator
1. Casting the saving vote for wuf in the last few minutes is bound to draw some attention. I doubt that Gator would pull something like that as a wolf this early
2. I'm totally off base and Gator pulled that move for some protection
I'm a noob but I'm thinking it's more in line with # 1 than # 2.
Ong and Sg are giving me a headache and it's too early in the morning for that. Wanna here from those I've listed as villagers before I add much of anything to the thread. Wolves have an easy wagon setting up for me so for now I'll just say I'm a villager and lynching me wouldn't help the game.
Ragnar, what info would you like me to back up?
you do realize they have a lookup, so you can ask them who they looked up and what they gotQuote:
Originally Posted by lolzzz_321
I have to say that you are a much better mod then a medium
also lynch philly
Point #1 - following ww on my blackberry sucks so whoever invented site blocking can kiss my ass.
Point #2 - its hard to do detailed analysis on my blackberry so please don't fault me if I misstate something right now but here goes.....
How in the hell can I be a wolf when I am being tied to, what seems like, 3-4 different sets of wolf groups. It seems like I am either coaching, guiding, or influencing everybody who is a wolf candidate.
For christ sake this alone should signal to anyone who has half a brain that the likelyhood of me being a wolf in this game is not that high.
Then combine that with all of the "Gator is bold enough to do blah, blah, blah" and it is very frustrating why you guys think I am the only player capable of leveling the village.
I am a freakin villager people and, imo, there is at least one of the two wolves out there who are trying to put the focus on me so a) the focus isn't on them and b) it increases their chances of getting me lynched.
Wake up villagers.
I gave my reasons for switching to Gabe in this post:Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2054171
But I'll show my hand. It was this post by wuf that changed my mind:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2054344
or more directly, one setence in that post.
But this post that I wrote after Benny fake outted should have made it clear that I was looking at someone other than wuf:Because of these posts and I would like for you and Hoopy to try to explain this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shotglass
Why would Hoopy lump you in with Benny? As a distraction or a mis-step?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoopy
2nd time that Hoopy has defended Benny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoopy
Ong's disappeared.
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Originally Posted by Hoopy
It doesn't matter which one that Hoopy bolds or gets a BW going on because he knows that they're all villagers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoopy
Damn guys, sorry, I just realized this.Quote:
Originally Posted by TLR
I could go with lynching either Ong, Hoopy or an inactive player but I won't bold for now
I'm down with lynching philly. I think he would never play this way as a villager.
Agree with gator on all points. People coming up with crazy scenarios just because they think others can pull off massive levels are just adding confusion to the game, at least for me anyway.