In a FR game UTG what are you guys raising with??
I am generally raising AJs+ and 1010 plus does this seem ok? Or is this too lose for FR?
Also Preflop are you ever calling a shove or shoving with AK?
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In a FR game UTG what are you guys raising with??
I am generally raising AJs+ and 1010 plus does this seem ok? Or is this too lose for FR?
Also Preflop are you ever calling a shove or shoving with AK?
im a little looser than that AJs+ AQo KQs 77+ but my range gets wider as if i feel i can get away with it KQo and 89s+ or there are bad players in the blinds.
and yes but not as standard only when the spot is right
LOL @ too looseQuote:
Originally Posted by gotigers1234
AJs+, AQo+, 66+ but can be 22+ and SCs depending on table
I'm happy to stack off with AK against looser, more aggressive players.
If I were to coach a complete beginner(at 2/4/5nl) I would probably start them off with AJs+,AQo,22+, basically mring the small PPs and teaching them why. At like 100NL I think a better UTG range would be like AQs+/AKo,77+,T9s,98s,87s basically because mid suited broadways are always dominated when we get to postflop and middling SCs still play really good(way better then small PPs) since we flop something decent like 25% of the time. Also I'd stay away from the T9s type shit UTG at micros UNLESS flop was going 4way+ a lot when we mr'd because you are going to be in tonnes of horrible reverse implied odds situations.
If anyone disagrees with my 100NL std range I'd love to know why. Basically it avoids tough spots while still adding value to our UTG range. I used to be in the QJs+,AQo+,AJs+,66+ camp but I think that's doing poorer then the range I previously stated.
I'd rather tell beginners to open T9s than 22-66 UTG, but I'd probably just tell them to fold both until they don't suck horribly postflop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Icanhastreebet
Meh I think 22-66 is fine since no one can fold a pair and we'll have a huge SPR going to the flop.
Have you seen the retarded bluffs with low PPs these BC bonks decide to randomly pull off with no equity? At least with T9s they'll have some equity most of the time!Quote:
Originally Posted by Icanhastreebet
Ah ha QFT.Quote:
Originally Posted by d0zer
Well I would also explain to them to play very fit or fold and generally to cbet once on good boards if they felt it was profitable. If they can't be disciplined postflop they probably have no discipline pre-flop either so it doesn't really matter what we tell them :(.
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Originally Posted by Icanhastreebet
My postflop is bad... I try to just play fit or fold but I think most people catch on to this and exploit me. But I am generally not disciplined enough to play back without tilting and spazzing out.
Probably not, this is probably in your head.Quote:
Originally Posted by gotigers1234
You are prob right... I over analyze everything. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by d0zer
Almost nO doubt this Is in your head!
^^Quote:
Originally Posted by gotigers1234
This is something I struggle with too - I presume that the 4NL folks I play against adjust to me, when if I'm honest in my HH analysis there really is precious little evidence of such adjustment.Quote:
Originally Posted by kickass
As someone who's still very new to poker and not that good post-flop, I'm really trying to get back to basics so seeing this kind of advice given to others is great, thanks! :)
Very few people have learned how to adjust at 4nl. Those who do learn this skill will be moving up very quickly.
what we're raising with doesn't matter too much. I don't have static ranges, and this isn't what you should be doing... nor should i for that matter, i think it's time to tighten up in ep, loosen up in lp and stop being retard in the blindsQuote:
Originally Posted by gotigers1234
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nothing wrong with your nit range at all. Learn to play those hands well from ep, then expand that range as you see fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by gotigers1234
nothing wrong with AJs+/AQ+/88+/8Ts-QTs/89s-KQs either.
hell yeah, but obviously hugely player dependent. For example, I'm getting it in vs anyone with less than 60bb and >7%vpip pretty much always./Quote:
Originally Posted by gotigers1234
paging bikes - assuming he's still in the "open any suited broadways from utg" campQuote:
Originally Posted by Icanhastreebet
[QUOTE=hell yeah, but obviously hugely player dependent. For example, I'm getting it in vs anyone with less than 60bb and >7%vpip pretty much always./[/QUOTE]
Greater than 7% ??? 8-14 would be a tight range right??
the AND was really important in that statement. Holding AK you're greater than 40% against a shortstack's shoving range which generally means get it in. When players are a little bit deeper I don't go auto-shoving AK just cos someone has raised once or twice.Quote:
Originally Posted by gotigers1234
Sup Straight,
I'm currently playing .02/.04 nl & I'm open raising only w/ 15% top hands, and 5% Low PP's & Suited connectors. If you don't have Poker Stove, you should get it. it's a great tool for Range & Equity. Just play around with it by plugging hand v.s hand contests your curious about..
Sorry i have to be quick with this one , but i'll try and throw some advice your way after i get my laptop wednesday.
!!!!!! Don't be scared to call your LAG opponents 3bets, see where the flop takes ya, thats what started helping me with my post-flop play.
2 different posters have called me straight this week lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by WeldPhaser
uhm i don't really see where the topic of 3bets came in but definitely don't just call and 'see where the flop takes ya'
watQuote:
Originally Posted by daven
i remember you telling me that you liked to open KJs etc from utg ages ago on irc, i think when you were in thailand. I remember you saying you had talked to renton about it etc. Yaawn asked why anyone thinks this is a good idea, you're good at explaining your thoughts re poker - hence my comment. Sufficient clarification?Quote:
Originally Posted by bikes
quickly stated they play better postflop than 77-