3 non-straightforward hand histories

swiped from this thread:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...re-189641.html
Std 6m game, villain is most likely a fish.

Seat 2: C4374 ($46.85 in chips)
Seat 3: mister-kobus ($42.50 in chips)
Seat 4: nath1298 ($50 in chips)
Seat 5: sestol ($41.20 in chips)
Seat 6: xxx ($50.05 in chips)
ZMA_sleep will be allowed to play after the button
C4374: posts small blind $0.25
mister-kobus: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xxx [Qd Kd]
nath1298: folds
sestol: folds
xxx: raises $0.75 to $1.25
C4374: folds
mister-kobus: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [Td 9d Qs]
mister-kobus: bets $3
xxx: ?

*** TURN *** [Td 9d Qs] [Jd]
mister-kobus: checks
xxx?



villain is a likely reg, no other reads


Table 'Rutllant V' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Ruslagor ($33.20 in chips)
Seat 2: Pakastin999 ($65.10 in chips)
Seat 3: sad banana ($54.10 in chips)
Seat 4: Prrfzz ($56.70 in chips)
Seat 5: xxx ($50 in chips)
Seat 6: SexyTanya69 ($20 in chips)
Pakastin999: posts small blind $0.25
sad banana: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xxx [Ac Ad]
Prrfzz: raises $1.25 to $1.75
xxx: raises $3 to $4.75
SexyTanya69: folds
Ruslagor: folds
Pakastin999: folds
sad banana: folds
Prrfzz: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [5c Qd 8s]
Prrfzz: checks
xxx: bets $5.75
Prrfzz: raises $5.75 to $11.50
xxx?

villain is an aggro reg

Table 'Bengt IV' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: xxx ($173.65 in chips)
Seat 2: tr0nni ($141.35 in chips)
Seat 4: nsdjang ($51.25 in chips)
Seat 5: Hulk9950 ($50.75 in chips)
Seat 6: wampie2 ($51.50 in chips)
xxx: posts small blind $0.25
tr0nni: posts big blind $0.50
Kya-Mya (c): sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xxx [Qc Qd]
nsdjang: folds
Hulk9950: folds
wampie2: folds
xxx: raises $1 to $1.50
tr0nni: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [Qs 3c 6s]
xxx: bets $2
tr0nni: raises $4.50 to $6.50
xxx: raises $8.50 to $15
tr0nni: calls $8.50
*** TURN *** [Qs 3c 6s] [4d]
xxx?

*** RIVER *** [Qs 3c 6s 4d] [9d]
xxx?

uhm do you think it's a good idea to discuss this before the questionnaire is done?

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Originally Posted by Imthenewfish

uhm do you think it's a good idea to discuss this before the questionnaire is done?

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figured it would be fine cos it seems that it's finished - see quote below. Now why not do something to liven up the bc with some discussion on interesting hand histories?

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Originally Posted by bikes

thx to everyone who answered. t'was not my survey so i simply forwarded everything to her/him.

he/she will get in contact with you if they need further info.

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Looks like the questionnaire is over?...I'll give it a shot.

H1: raise flop, shovel turn vs the fish.
H2: Kinda depends on what reg thinks of us/any history..I dont think folding is terrible, maybe it is though.
H3: Bet turn, shovel river...woulda left the table before this hand occurred though.

Feedback would be appreciated on the following. FWIW this is what I sent bikes WfW.

H1:
We want to keep the fish in the hand and extract as much value as possible. I'm raising his donk bet to $9 and I'm comfortable stacking off on this flop. His range could be anything from draws to made hands and even bluffs (classic fish move - donk in to the raiser to "see where you're at"). OTT I don't want him to fold but I have to bet at least enough to get him all-in on the river.

H2:
If he's a reg, I doubt he's calling a 3bet OOP with 55, 88, or 76 and AQ is real iffy (plus we have blockers)... so if he's got a made hand it's QQ. He might have AK (again, we have blockers and is he calling 3bet OOP), KK (does he 4bet pre?) or JJ/TT (maybe). Bluffing with air doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless he as AK because he's not calling preflop OOP with garbage. It's not a huge raise and we have position, so I might call and hope to see a showdown but folding here is not out of the question.

H3:
We're deep as hell but I bet like a monkey. If he's got a straight draw on the flop then I'm mickey mouse. Spade draw is likely, as are sets and other PPs. I'm looking hard but I don't see any reason not to bet, bet, bet unless villain is so aggro that I have to let him hang himself since he's competent enough to fold to a lot of pressure.

my attempt. Interested in people's thoughts.

consider all options etc

1 - don't fold. Call or raise? We are ahead most of the time, and have monster equity when behind. If we call and hit the turn we're unlikely to get much more fish $$ cos board will be way too scary and we look like a draw after we call. 80bb effective. Villain's donk sizing suggests he won't fold too often so raise it up. Sizing? I like smaller to keep villain in with his weak made hands. $7.75. Turn depends on pot size and flop action. Assuming we raised to $7.75 and villain called = pot is is about $18 with $32 behind. $12 on turn.

2 - meh, is a likely reg calling 55/88/QQ oop here? dscount 55/88 heaps. QQ maybe but he 4b that sometimes, if he can have QQ then he can have KK/KQ/AQ, etc. TT/JJ can do this too. No likely draws. Flop 3bet for value doesn't get much value. It's closer to a fold than it seems, but call.

3 - Need more reads really. I mean, if we know he's aggro reg then we know a bunch more about him that just that. 300bb deep at a standard table with an aggro reg to our right makes this a pretty bad seat unless there is a big fish at the table. Even then it's not a great seat, but could be worth going with. Flop is interesting. Villain has a flush draw often when he calls, set sometimes, overpair very rarely. He isn't folding much of that cos implied+stack size etc. Bet turn $24, get it in if he raises it up. Check turn could be ok, except that check-raising turn is too strong. Fake block most rivers.

question about hand 2: dont regs get QQ+AK in pre at 50nl 6max, if thats true, and im expecting villain to act like this then flatting his raise and calling down has to be best. 3 combos of 88 and 6 combos of AQ plus random bluffs.

H3 we have like the nuts here betting the turn nice and big is vital but river is kinda weird surley villain will have busted draws or small showdown value, this leads me to beleive a small bet is best. it might get a call from his pairs hes made along the way 8s9setc and might look weak enough to get the aggroid to raise us as a bluff.