Raise sizing?

Villain is 17/14, cbet 100% over 42 hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($7.91)
SB ($10)
BB ($6.47)
Hero (UTG) ($10)
MP ($10.44)
CO ($11.14)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif
Hero calls $0.10, 2 folds, Button calls $0.10, SB bets $0.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40, 1 fold

I limp pre because the table has been very passive when it comes to pre flop raises but very loose when it comes to calling raises preflop. I didn't want to stick alot of money in but figured there was a good chance I could get in cheap to try to hit a set. I call the raise from SB because button is a 78/22 fish who I had seen limp call a lot pre and I expected him to call which would give me good implied odds, unfortunately it didn't happen.

Flop: ($1.20) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $0.65, Hero raises to $1.80, 1 fold

Total pot: $2.50 | Rake: $0.12

How's my raise sizing? Obviously he could have complete air and is never calling any raise but this kind of thing happens to me fairly often so I can't help thinking my sizing is off.

prefer to see you raise preflop here. raise size looks ok to me.

i like folding pre, but you had reasons to limp so that's fine
raise looks good, calling is probably better cos sb would have to be pretty stupid to continue with anything less than AA vs your raise...

thinking some more, villain never has anything here. He ain't calling if you raise

Thanks. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't raising too big in situations like this.

ETA - Just for the record, yes I would normally just fold 22-55/66 UTG depending on table dynamics, specially FR which this was until about 3 hands before this one.

Calling pre is ok due to the potential for the limpers calling as well, which gives more chace for people to hit something they can felt with.

On the flop just call, also only call turn unless it's an A or K, then raise any river.

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Originally Posted by daven

thinking some more, villain never has anything here. He ain't calling if you raise

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JJ+ folds here?

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Originally Posted by DanAronG

Calling pre is ok due to the potential for the limpers calling as well, which gives more chace for people to hit something they can felt with.

On the flop just call, also only call turn unless it's an A or K, then raise any river.

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Will keep this in mind for when my shitty shitty shitty luck turns around! :-D Been getting sucked out on so bad lately I've taken the line of not letting anyone draw for cheap no matter what! hahaha

Seriously though, thanks for the thoughts on a different line to take.

With the flush draw there I don't blame you for raising, but you'r heads up against the preflop 3b-er, so unless it was a squeeze attempt with some suited connectors or suited ace, which I guess it could be, the only draws he's left with are AKh or maybe AQh. If you had an overpair in this situation I'd always raise with the flush draw there, but with a set even if the flush completes you have redraws to a fh so I'm less concerned.

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Originally Posted by rpm

JJ+ folds here?

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hero is playing super face up, villain is TAG and isolates limpers wide, etc. Hero is relying on retard way too much when he raises here
JJ+ is like 20% of villain's range, and sometimes even that is folding

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Originally Posted by PKKFW

Will keep this in mind for when my shitty shitty shitty luck turns around! :-D Been getting sucked out on so bad lately I've taken the line of not letting anyone draw for cheap no matter what! hahaha

Seriously though, thanks for the thoughts on a different line to take.

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really bad mindset

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Originally Posted by daven

really bad mindset

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I agree it is a bad mindset and it's something I'm working on.

However........from what I've read you want people to make a mistake by calling against you. If you are not charging them for draws then they are not making any mistakes are they? Now, maybe I'm charging them too much and making it way too easy for them to play correctly by folding.

Hence my original question about my raise sizing.

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Originally Posted by PKKFW

I agree it is a bad mindset and it's something I'm working on.

However........from what I've read you want people to make a mistake by calling against you. If you are not charging them for draws then they are not making any mistakes are they? Now, maybe I'm charging them too much and making it way too easy for them to play correctly by folding.

Hence my original question about my raise sizing.

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I would try to concentrate on how much value or how many streets of value you want to try to get from each of your hands instead of charging draws. Charging draws and protecting your hand is a side affect of betting for value.

I'd fold pre, mainly because there's VERY little value to 22 when UTG unless it hits a set.

The limp, call pre followed by a raise on the flop looks exactly like a set. He has very few draws in his hand so we can call the flop and then get aggressive on the turn after he leads into us again.

fold pre