Top set HU $10nl

Ok, been playing 6max for a few hours but everyone except bluetruth has left and I figure a nice quick HU session would be nice before bed. Villain has been running at 22/17 over 140ish hands, but that was 6max. HU he's raising every button, he folded to my only 3bet, and has cbet every time I've checked over, this over around 15 hands or so.

Villain's range when he raises pf... ATC
Villain's range when he checks flop... not sure
Villain's range when he 3bets me on the turn 68 77 99 55 97 75 95 A7 A9 A5
Villain's range when he 5bets me on the turn 68 77 99 55

Now, questions...

1. Should I 3bet pre, or is the flat here fine?
2. Is the check on the flop bad? I'm obviously looking to c/r
3. Is the check on the turn bad after I hit the 2nd nuts? I'm itching for him to fire now.
4. Is my range too wide for him at the turn, is it fucking 68 only after the 5bet? Surely he bets sets and 2prs on the flop.
5. Can I ever get away from this?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (2 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($34.75)
Hero (BB) ($29.27)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif
SB bets $0.34, Hero calls $0.24

Flop: ($0.72) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks

Turn: ($0.72) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $0.41, Hero raises to $1.10, SB raises to $2.75, Hero raises to $7, SB raises to $14.50, Hero ???

No

Shove.

HU is tough to analyze based on stats/reads alone, the game flow at a given point in time really affects the ranges. That being said, I think your ranges are definitely too narrow for him on the turn. Even with all the action, he could have two pair or even a couple of combos of AK.

Considering how deep you are, you definitely cannot fold. There is a good chance that you have the best hand right now, and you have 10 outs if he has the straight. If you are absolutely sure that he has the straight, then call and reevaluate on the river. If you think he calls a shove with enough sets+2pair+AK to give you >50% equity, then do it.

Also -- 3bet preflop. No sense getting into a pot OOP with an SPR of 45.

Quick point about 3bing pre, it's going to be just as bad playing OOP w/ spr of 15, DOUCY?

This looks fine, I would donk this flop though most of the time rather then c/r. After that if he raises I'd probably call and c/c down

That said, now lead the turn, you block Ax and he's gonna have lots of shitty pairs or gutters that will peel and you want to charge and not give free cards to.

No clue why someone would wanna check baack the nizzles, this depends A TONNE on if he's capable of that and if he's willing to stack off w/ like 2pair and shit here(or check back a set and get it in). I think I'd probably call the turn 3b and just pick off any bluffs and shit he could have. That's only going to suck if he was willing to get it in w/ 2pair which I can't really see that often...

This hand really bugged me as I was trying to sleep, not because it's a cooler and cost me a deep stack buy in (good br management), but because I really think he told me on the flop what his hand was. This guy has bet every time he's on the button and it's checked over, so why not this time? When he checks this flop, I should realise something is wrong. He's firing 99% of his range (not an accurate stat, he's actually on 100% HU), that's exactly why I checked in the first place. He's never checking sets and 2pr on this flop, so when we get into a raising war on the turn he either hit the turn (aces-up? again I expect him to bet his kicker pair on the flop) or he flopped the nuts.

Fwiw, I called the turn 5bet and then realised he was shoving the nuts and maybe checking behind with sets and aces-up on the river, so I shoved the river (which of course was a blank) because I was always calling his shove and he's always calling mine. I didn't want to let his sets get away, and if they're in his range, I want stacks in.

I'm trying not to be results orientated here, I would prefer this guy can check a set on the flop and then stack off on the turn with it, but I'm not so sure. Can he really let me see a free card? Ok I guess even if I'm drawing on the straight, it's only 4 outs, so it's not insane to slow play a set HU. Meh I've convinced myself he has sets in his flop checking range. I feel better already.

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Originally Posted by Icanhastreebet

Quick point about 3bing pre, it's going to be just as bad playing OOP w/ spr of 15, DOUCY?

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I only tend to think about SPR when I'm facing a raise and I think I'm dominated, like 44 facing overpair etc. Why is it just as bad to have SPR of 15 compared to 45? Because he's still getting the implied odds to call a 3bet light?

And yeah, I don't think he gets it in with 2pr to this action, he must credit me for a set really. Not saying he folds 2pr but I doubt he stacks off on the turn, as he's clearly willing to do. This is always sets or nuts imo, it's just that fucking flop check that bugs me.

I didn't even realise it at the time either, but this is the biggest cash pot I've been involved in. Who's idea was it to play $10nl 6max deep? Cheers for that one surviva.

Shit I just remembered, I suggested $10nl, he was willing to go down to $5nl but I insisted...

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Why is it just as bad to have SPR of 15 compared to 45?

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Icanhastreebet is right -- using SPR as a justification for 3betting here doesn't really work. With an SPR of 15, you're still deep enough that you can get about 3 full streets of betting without any raises (well, if one street is an overbet), which can be scary for a top-pair type hands like AA. There's an entire section about this in "Professional No Limit Holdem" -- I'm going to have to re-read that book, I think I was still at 5NL when I last read it.

He changed my mind -- flat calling is the better option here due to stacks.

I can't pretend I flat called here because of stacks, it was purely because he folded the last time I 3bet him, obviously that's not what I want him to do pre flop against a range of ATC so I flat for that reason. Interesting point about SPR, it will take some time for it to sink in, further reading is probably necessary.

I feel much better about this hand now because today I stacked someone for 250bb with top set tens against KK, after he min raised my utg open and couldn't get away from the flop when I obviously had a set. Let the upswing begin.

I gotta post this somewhere. Just wow.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($7.55)
UTG+1 ($31.36)
MP1 ($8.14)
Hero (MP2) ($35.20)
CO ($11.42)
Button ($11.48)
SB ($22.23)
BB ($19.04)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif
UTG bets $0.50, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.10, 5 folds, MP1 calls $1.60

Flop: ($5.01) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $6.02, MP1 calls $6.02 (All-In)

Turn: ($17.05) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($17.05) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $17.05 | Rake: $0.84

Results:
MP1 had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (high card, King).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: Hero won $16.21


Like, what the fuck? $10nl is easy fucking money, Jesus Christ.

Hand #56687979640, just wanted to note that so I can post it on weaktight when I figure out how to lol.

Sorry for hijacking my own crappy thread.

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