Top Two facing ugly turn action

Vills were loose-aggressive. Too loose pflop? Turn b/f good? How is the bet sizing throughout? In hindsight I kinda feel like I undervalued my hand while it was happening, and that influenced my fold more than my opponents actions, which is really weird/dumb. I'm pretty much giving the BB cred. for the flush here. I'm getting great odds on the call but I felt I was drawing to 4 cards really often.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (MP2) ($10.70)
CO ($5.05)
Button ($5.45)
SB ($25.25)
BB ($9)
UTG ($7.50)
UTG+1 ($10)
MP1 ($9.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, CO calls $0.40, Button calls $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.65) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.20, CO calls $1.20, 1 fold, BB calls $1.20

Turn: ($5.25) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, CO raises to $3.45 (All-In), BB raises to $6.45, Hero folds

River: ($15.15) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $15.15 | Rake: $0.70

BB has to have the flush.

CO has to like his hand too, nobody's folding for 45c, so if not TPTK (one of your outs gone) he probably has a set?

I think the reason it is little response so far is that this hand is very difficult.

On the one hand you "know" you are behind,- on the other hand you are getting tremendous odds, have a nut draw, have a strong hand and are playing against some Loose/aggressive players.

If I had a strong read i would fold, but this is an easy call without.

there's no way you're ahead here imo. i can't see anyone re-raising without having a hand that beats you

I'm with AF here. I don't see anyway we're ahead here in a 3 way pot. BB has only left $0.95 behind, and is effectively AI. Unless he's just a total manic, he has you beat. So you're essentially looking at another $4.50 here with only 4 outs on the river. You have about 23% pot odds here with only 8% on you hand. I'm folding.

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Originally Posted by AFchung

there's no way you're ahead here imo. i can't see anyone re-raising without having a hand that beats you

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Really?

Every player is different. A Scandinavian style LAG could easily represent a flush here without having it. Other possibilites are the Ace of spade with rag/pair, a straight draw with a pair, AA, KK + a lot of random crap.

Depends on who and where you play oc, but i saw a lot of random action at my stay in the micros.

That's an awful LAG bluff into this kinda pot with one player already AI and no hammer.

"That's an awful LAG bluff"- spot on!

It is microstakes and people do the weirdest things. Know your opponent, do not assume he is rational until proven otherwise.

I agree with a fold- I just disagree it is a routine fold. People should have good reasons for folding top two.

For me the deciding factor in this is whether the BB is a real maniac or not. Unless he is I fold this here, way too much chance We're drawing to 4 outs on the river.

One of them had that flush IMO. I think it was a good fold but in microstakes you never really know. But why would the second guy go all in with anything but a flush? I mean why not just call......and maybe check it down with you on the river, instead of just going all in and giving away his money because you had the flush. I bet he had a flush and the shortstack had trips or something.