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What do you think is the best approach to handling loose donkeys. I have heard that calling and hoping to flop a monster- but monsters don't come around that often (at least for me :evil: ). I am considering just raising them every time I have anything above a T- Just kidding- but it is frustrating as i always seem to pick the wrong time to fight back.
Don't get me wrong I'd much rather play a donk than a rock but i don't have too much more hair to rip out :P
1) "calling and hope to flop a monster" is probably some of the worst advice anyone could ever give you, the way you'll win at micro stakes poker is to wait on quality starting hands, not mediocre ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by checkoutftr
2) I'd like some HH's of you vs. this donk please, so me and the other members can have a look over them and see what's going on :).
generally speaking,
bet for value (even thinly)
don't bluff them
don't cbet boards you miss (as much)
sit to their left
tighten up OOP
given them rope if they're aggressive - c/c
be patient.
Raise into them only with premium hands.
Bet strong.
Make them pay lots to call.
Get paid.
i respectfully disagree. loose players by definition are playing a much wider range so some marginal hands fare well against them. For example I'd often bet for value with TPGK (ex. KJo on a J72r - expecting to get called by QJ, JT, J9, J8, A7, A2.. u get the idea. )Quote:
Originally Posted by ponyboy
KJo IS a premium starting hand vs a loose donk!Quote:
Originally Posted by al yell
relatively speaking. KJo's absolute strength is marginal at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by d0zer
Maybe not the greatest example. :)
My point was just that against a loose donk who's limping 30%+ of hands, KJo becomes a great hand to isolate him with. I've had bad luck isolating loose donks with hands like T8s, 22-77, ... so I started just limping those behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by al yell
Your point about value betting them with a wider range is absolutely true though.
well.. those hands play better multi-way anyhow.Quote:
Originally Posted by d0zer
Point taken. I was being far too general. Premium hands vs. a loose player means something different than vs. a tight player.Quote:
Originally Posted by al yell
As they say, "Good poker is about playing the player."Quote:
Originally Posted by ponyboy
flop TPTK, get 3 streets of value
Their postflop is really what you should be looking for. Start adjusting both preflop and postflop due to their postflop tendencies. Sometimes making call downs with A hi is good. Just depends on their range, which obviously is dependent on numerous things. Start hypothetically thinking of postflop tendencies and try to come up with a plan on how to exploit it.
position+thin valuebetting
ship50% of profits to me on stars kthxbye