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Bigspenda73 presents a series of micro-stakes videos in the FTR Poker Video Library. Click a title below to view the video.
Bigspenda's Micro-Stakes Video 1: $5 NL 6-Max
Bigspenda's Micro-Stakes Video 2: $5 NL Full Ring
Bigspenda's Micro-Stakes Video 3: $10 NL 6-Max/Full Ring
Bigspenda's Micro Stakes Video 4: $25 NL 6-Max
Please review and rate them on the video page, then post here to discuss these videos further.
OLL!
I always thought you'd have a thick Texan accent...
Good lord I hear that all the time.
I do drive a pick-up but I don't own any cowboy boots.
I thought you were sitting next to Fnord on the right table first =o
If no one else wants to analyze Video 1 then I will do it myself.
There are 2 debatable spots in this video, the 99 hand and the AKo hand.
99 hand
I open UTG and UTG+1 3bets me. At $5nl this is a seemingly very strong play. I am getting just enough to set-mine against what I assume is a strong overpair (QQ+). I flop my set and the mony goes in, whatever, that's not the point.
The point for you little grinders is this: if your opponents are 3betting a wide wide range (i.e.- one that includes 8c5c) then unless they are just complete spewtards postflop you cannot profitably set-mine there. The reason being they will just not have a hand large enough to stack off with all the time. Therefore you just start spewing calling his 3bet and c/f most flops.
AK0 Hand
UTG limps, BTN limps, I raise it up out of the SB. From comes A73 two-tone. I lead for near full-pot and they both call. Here is where I stopped thinking about their hand and just 1st-leveled myself out of a couple buyins. On the turn when I fire again and they both call that tells me I need to slow down. However, at that point the pot has 200bbs in it and I have Top 2 in a raised pot. The river sucks, b/c I just know he has to have 77 there but it's likely he sucks and has A7/A8 and isn't puttng me on AK (ld0). Boom! I get stacked, I really don't think there was a way to avoid it. The pot just got so bloated b/c of the 3rd player in it. It made my turn bet much larger b/c I felt I had to protect the big pot I had build once I made top 2.
Any thoughts? Anyone out there? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
Still mainly a limit player but if your opponent 3 bets with weak hands isn't it ok to just call with your 9's then raise a lead any flop that isn't real scary depending on position? What i'm asking is do we really need to worry about set value against an opponent that will 3-bet a bunch of hands that we are already beating?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
He was a player who had just played AA passively so I though he was really passive, I had no read on his 3betting range, until I saw his hand at showdown.
The problem I'm seeing with flat-calling someone that 3bet a very wide range with your 9's -- and playing them for mid-pair value -- is that you don't know where you stand. Sure, he could have 3bet with junk and you are good shape, but he could have also 3bet with a premium hand and you are way behind. Also by just flat-calling his 3bet with junk, you give him a chance to outflop you or flop a good draw. This seems to be a situation where you stand to win a small pot or loose a big pot.Quote:
Originally Posted by littleogre
* my $0.02 but I'm not good so I'm probably wrong. :o
OK, it's a bit of a complex concept for the games at $5nl but we shouldn't be at these levels a long time anyways.
99 is an easy hand to play here with the read I had. I felt this player was passive and when he 3bet me I felt like he had a big hand. It didn't seem like he was on tilt at all even after getting stacked holding AA just 3-4 hands before. It's obvious now he was on tilt but we CANNOT know that at the time.
Therefore, with my reads I played absolutely fine.
HOWEVER, and this is where poker players become way way way too results oriented, my play was not correct against a light 3bettor. I've explained multiple times why it was not, so I won't go into it again. The main thing YOU should take from this is that this is how to analyze situations. Anyone notice my reaction after I won that pot? Was I thrilled or upset? You would think thrilled but you would be wrong. Most players would go "YES!!" I just won a stack. However, I took note of what he 3bet me with and realized my play was less than ideal. That's the mindset you need to have. Don't just analyze your biggest losses, analyze all your hands and determine if you are playing well across the board.
That's all for now.
This is probably the most important lesson to take away.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
For information's sake, how would you have played the 99 hand had your read been that the player was a light 3bettor?
Good question. It's a tough answer and shows how light 3betting can be profitable. It certainly puts me to the test. If he's a maniac I'd just shove. If he's a LAGG I'll felt almost all low flops against him. The pot will be big enough to c/shove the flop after he 3bets and cbets.Quote:
Originally Posted by miracleriver
Just wanted to say thanks for this. I liked your 50NL vids as well. Very informative (and I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of Stars. I really don't understand why it gets so much micostakes traffic with sphincter-tight tables, no rakeback, and FPP's/Bonus so hard to earn at anything under 50NL).
Just a request-- would you consider doing a 25NL video at Full Tilt?
Good vids, bigspenda.
Im witchu on the 99.
But I don't often play or stacks with AK on A-high flop.
wheeeeeeeeeeeee, 4tbl $5 Full Ring should be up soon.
Alright, video 2 is up and running
I would like to check these out, but my connection here is too slow. The videos just freeze and buffer every 7 seconds. :(
That sucks... I'm playing SNGs at Stars right now, was just about to switch to ring next week, then grind up to $600 to take advantage of FTs sign up bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by drtofu66
Perhaps I should revise my plan?
Try this:Quote:
Originally Posted by grnydrowave2
1. Pause the player as soon as you get to the video page.
2. Let the video load for a few minutes while it is paused. You can see the load progress as the bar at the bottom of the player fills to the right.
3. Un-pause the player to resume playback.
Depending on how slow your connection is, you may want to leave it paused and loading for a while and come back to it later to watch. Don't close that video page's browser window or leave the page, however. Doing so will restart the buffering from the beginning.
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http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/reviewer.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by jolub
Try username "ftr" and password "review".
I have a couple of questions..
1. What exactly does air mean?
2. You talk about 2-barreling, I'm unsure what that means. I'm guessing you mean betting two streets with nothing?
Good questionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Nexter
1. Air is a term used to describe a hand without any value. Say I have 78 offsuit and the board is AKJ4. I have "air" on this board, I don't have anything, just "air".
2. Betting is sometimes coined "firing" as in shooting, barrel, you can kind of piece the two together. When I two-barrel I am firing more than once at the pot, most commonly a cbet on the flop and another bet on the turn. Generally I wil two-barrel any card that could scare my opponent or anytime where I think he/she will fold if I fire another bet into the pot.
Good questions, keep 'em coming.
Ah, I thought 3-barreling was precisely the same as 3-betting! Thanks for the correction.
I watched video #1 but I don't have anything meaningful to say about it. So far I'm a single table micro-limit player and when I say 5/10 I mean 0.05/0.10! For now.
It's still good to hear the thought processes!
I watched the second video but not the first (only because I play full rings) and I got a lot of good info about taking notes. I've never really taken notes before very much. When do you feel you can get a really good read on someone with your notes and also stats like from poker office. I've sat with some players for hundreds of hands and feel like I know them but I'm often weary of taking notes on players I just sat with. I feel I'll go to my notes and not really play the cards. I question it especially for hands like when I think you had QQ v KK and got stacked but based your read on an earlier hand even though you didn't really have too much info on any of these players... (even though fwiw I don't think it was played wrong, just wondering if its good to make decisions based on such a small sample of play). Thanks! More micro limit full ring table videos everyone!
The reason I take notes is because as you move up in levels the player base becomes smaller and you're more likely to sit with that same player again. I could probably play $10nl FR on Stars for 2 weeks and not run into more than 2-3 of the same players.
Also, notes help me generalize what type of player someone is. It's nice to know that Player A likes to slowplay, so when he c/r's a flop you know he's bluffing. Things like that can help.
I should have another video up relatively soon.
Great videos and great series. I'm looking forward to the rest of them.
Question regarding micro-stake video 2. Early in the video, after playing the AQ hand, you noted that we can assume he probably likes to slowplay. Did you come to the assumption based on the way he played the hand? Can you explain why we can assume that?
never mind. you answer the question a little further in the video.
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, I should have the last 2 videos of the series up pretty soon.
The first will be a $10nl mix of 2tables FR/6max
I'm thinking about 2tabling $25nl 6max for the last video.
From reading the reviews it seems as if the videos have been helpful, which is all I was hoping for. FTR gave me so much when I started it only seems right to contribute for once :lol:
def. 2-table 25nl.
I have some great Ideas for your last video. I will contact you in Vent and we can talk. This may be too long to post here.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
I'll have my ppl talk to your ppl
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Originally Posted by kmind
Have to say that the video is definitely a big help. I am just now getting back into online poker, and checked out the vids to see if I could pick anything new up. I am going to start opening small PPs more. Not all over the place, but in the way that you did. Beyond being able to see and go thru the thought process of a good player I got to see that I'm on the right track. Thanks Spenda!
Bigspenda's Micro-Stakes Video 3: 6-Max/Full-Ring is now online.
Spenda, that 74s hand with the river bluff doesn't make any sense to me. You say it's a great board to take a stab at. What's so great about it?
I was with you on the flop, and perhaps even on the turn, but on the river I was ready to give up on the hand.
Well I basically force him to show up with the nuts to call me.
I'm expecting all 2pr hands to fold really, I mean, if you covered my cards up what would you put me on and what would you call me with. Looking back at the hand I like a river shove more than just a $4 bet.
The train of thought thing is something I've tried to work on b/c I've noticed then when i watch my videos. I'll continue to try and improve upon it.Quote:
Originally Posted by grnydrowave2
yeah, pat your head and rub your tummy, too. not like your priority should be on your monies instead of a video to help.
i get the constructive criticism, but i think you do ok, all things considered.
I wasn't complaining, nor was I asking that he work on it for my sake. He's about to make more instructional videos for a pay site, and I'm just trying to be helpful.
It's all good dude, it's something I need to improve upon for sure. I think each vid maybe should just have one key concept and I shouldn't really waver from that concept, i.e.-bet sizing, hand reading, cbetting, board texture, etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by grnydrowave2
I think any sort of feedback/suggestion is great. It's what our regular videographers want. They want to know what their audience wants in these videos.
Bigspenda's Micro Stakes Video 4: $25 NL 6-Max is now online.
Anyone watch this one?
I did.
I don't like the hand after 98s hand after 23 mins. We are OOP, and I don't think he is betting worse in a 4way pot very often.
Good vid though, it's the first I've watched and it was very informative! GL with the future vids for GrinderSchool!
hmmmmmmmmmmmm don't remember the hand. I'm at work and don't want to run the vid, could you elaborate?
We have 98s, villain bets pre and "cbets" the flop but he's been very tight. Board is K9x. I can't see such a tight opp cbetting this board with anything we beat so I think you have to fold the flop, i can't understand why you called.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
I watched them all. Just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to make them. I've just recently become a winning player thanks 100% to the hours spent lurking on ftr. It's too bad I play at bodog and can't post hand histories :roll: , that's where the profit's been for me though. (guess I'll break down and buy dogwatch one of these days)Quote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
-Andrew
probably because King Hi flops are great to cbet, I have showdown value, the pot is small, and I'd hope I'm in position if I have 89sQuote:
Originally Posted by badgers
I liked all of these. Thanks spenda!
Just noticed the videos, the reviews are great! But because I believe only watching the video and do nothing else but watching is a waste of time I have a question:
Is there a way to make the video a bit larger? Not full screen, because when I click on a PartyPoker table the full screen closes and I am not able to see the cards Spenda holds ;)
change the resolution on your monitor
Watched it on my 15,4" notebook and on the 22" widescreen linked to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms
The website stretches but the videosize stays the same ;)
but did they have different resolutions? your video card may not support a larger resolution than your notebook screen can handle. if so then you won't get a larger resolution from a larger monitor.Quote:
Originally Posted by $cumbag
Well I don't know if the following clears it but will try it.
When I watch Prison Break I at least see it very big ;)
And when I browse on notebook and drag the screen to the 22" I can maximize it and I believe it expand the website.
Hopefully this helped?
Soon I will have a desktop attached on the 22" and then it will work hopefully ;) Will wait!
The full screen button is on the bottom right. It is a blue box with a square in it.
.. If that's what you are talking about.
hi all, im completley new to poker... i play on poker stars in the micro 6max games, i was very happy to be told about flopturnriver by my cousin, and when i saw this video i thought GERAT! just what i need, but... i dont get the multi table concept, i thought maybe you just want to show lots of examples in a short period of time. but then i remember my cousin saying about playing in more than one... and i dont get it, is there some sort of advantage? is it greed? personally i find it hard to concentrate on one game yet alone 2 or more, is playing more than 1 at a time something i need to learn to get anyware? thx
Poker to most of us is all about maximizing our profit. Let's look at an example of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvIlK3Rn3L
If I play 1 table at a time I can make $100/hr at that table making my hourly rate obviously $100/hr.
If I play 2 tables at a time I can make on average $80/hr at each table making my hourly rate $160/hr
If I play 4 tables at a time I can make on average $70/hr at each table making my hourly rate $280/hr
If I play 6 tables at a time I can make on average $50/hr at teach table making my hourly rate $300/hr
If I play 8 tables at a time I can make on average $30/hr at each table making my hourly rate $240/hr.
Therefore, to maximize my potential profit playing 6 tables is the way to go for me. For others it might me more/less all dependent on skill-level, multi-tasking abilities, and attention span. In poker we ARE greedy, we want to win as much as possible!!
who is this cousin you speak of?Quote:
Originally Posted by EvIlK3Rn3L
bigspenda I want to say that your videos have helped me TREMENDOUSLY over the last few months. I have watched all of the vids in the forum (some more than once) and it has helped me alot. Especially bet sizes, 3 betting, etc. I just want to say thanks :) I've found this forum one of the best in learning strat (without most of the condescending crap).
just watched spendas 50nl 3 table video. very good video, informative and he explains his thought process thoroughly. good job dude.
Please submit your rating! Thank you.
I just got done watching all of the videos in this micro-stakes series, and I found them all to be very instructive (I left ratings for them, too). So thank you for taking the time to make these.
One hand in particular really stood out to me, and I would have liked to see some more analysis on it. It was the hand at about 23:00 in the second video:
.10/.25 NLHE 6-max
Hero's image is probably slightly laggy, read on MP is a tight regular.
UTG ($8.80)
Opp (MP) ($24.00)
CO ($32.45)
Button ($24.65)
SB ($120.65)
Hero (BB) ($75.30)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 8d, 9d
UTG folds, MP bets $1.00, CO calls $1.00, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75
Flop: ($2.95) Kh, 6c, 9s (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.75, CO folds, Hero calls $1.75
Turn: ($6.30) 5c (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $3.75, Hero folds
(sorry about the plain-text suits... apparently I can't submit posts with URLs yet)
I'm interested in any comments on the line played in this hand, particularly the choice on the turn. Obviously, a call on the turn is a terrible play. The idea behind the call on the flop, though, was that MP might be c-betting and we have middle pair. After the turn, we certainly are not putting MP on 78 or 47, so the only hand helped by the turn is a 55 or Axc. Otherwise, we've been beaten all along by a pocket overpair or a K. The 5 on the turn has given us a gut shot. Assuming an overpair (the only hand other than a set that I would expect to call to a sufficient bet), we have 9 outs going to the river. Is there a raise here that gives us enough fold equity (in addition to the EV of our hand) to do anything other than fold here?
bigspenda73 mentioned the possibility that MP had a busted hand like AT-Q, QJ, Axs, underpair, etc. and was just making a double-barreled c-bet, but he still folded. Is a raise here just spewing?
Ok, I am going to type up some questions as I watch this 5NL Full Ring video. (I have a feeling there will be a lot, try to get them all and if you miss something of course I will elaborate in a later post)
I finished watching, what a great video, please make some more!! Same levels etc, the more information the better, I am sure if you made 10 of these none would be the same, which is what makes poker great.
1. You have a hand on table four at about 14:30, in this hand you have wired 8's with which you raise and end up in position HU. Flrop comes TXX, and you are lead into. You call the raise and wait to see if he double barrels you. Turn brings a K, a good scare card for you and he does again lead, this time you raise to 1.75, and he folds. Nice play there. My question is if he shoves after your 1.75 raise, what is your play? (I would think you fold). Part 2, what if he simply calls? You say you will have to shove the river, is this assuming he checks first, or do you shove either way? Can you run through scenarios on the river? And in regards to him possibly shoving after your raise one the turn, and you do fold, how are you affected with regards to table image, and/or what affect would that have on future pots with this player? Do you feel like he will think he can "run over" you, or do you continue to play the same after that?
2. At 26:00 on table one you see a flop (unraised) with JTs, and one player bets into it on an A high flop. You have only a BDF and BDS draw, and "for the sake of the video" you call since you are both deep and you are hoping you can stack him if he over-values his likely paired ace. For beginners like me just trying to grind a roll, would you suggest we call also in this place or would you fold and continue to nut camp?
3. When you start the PT review, you show you were 20/10 and say you like to be in 20 PERCENT of the hands at this level because you know you have an edge post-flop. This question is more related to your terminology, is VPIP actually considered % of hands? I did not think it was...or is it % of hands in which you Voluntarily put in $?
4. When looking at the position tab in PT, how do the hands and VPIP's relate? Meaning, in the video you only played 7 hands from the CO, so I expect VPIP to be low which it is (0). You played the same number of hands on the button as you did in position 4, yet the VPIP is nearly 7 times higher on the button? Can you also elaborate on how this "should" look after a very large sample size? i.e. i would expect hands played to be highest on button and decrease all the way to CO, what about VPIP? Should button plays be about double those from BUT+1 after time? What about PF rasie %? Maybe this is too detailed...
Also I was just thinking, I wonder how much a beginner like myself could learn if we played an entire session in which we spoke out loud like you do in the video, or better yet recorded it so that people could review our own thought process, it would probably be hilarious.
I've made about 70 videos, you can find them at www.grinderschool.comQuote:
Originally Posted by KeeKoLy
good luck sir
Any response to my above questions?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
I think he just wants you to join his training site.
I can give this a shot. I won't pretend to know what Spenda had in mind in these spots, but I can say what I would think.
It's an easy fold to the shove. The shove looks like either KT, Kxss, QJss, or maybe A4ss, A5ss. We are in pretty horrible shape against that range:Quote:
Originally Posted by KeeKoLy
Code:Board: 3s 2s Td Kc
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 13.876% 13.88% 00.00% 116 0.00 { 8h8s }
Hand 1: 86.124% 86.12% 00.00% 720 0.00 { As5s, As4s, KsQs, KsJs, KTs, Ks9s, Ks7s, Ks6s, Ks5s, Ks4s, QsJs, KTo }
This was probably assuming he checks first. If he bets into us, we have to look at the bet size, pot size, and how much he has left to determine if he will ever fold. The point of a river shove is to get a fold from 99, or Tx or even a weak Kxss. If he bets an amount that indicates he won't be folding, I think we just have to fold.Quote:
Originally Posted by KeeKoLy
If we continue to see this guy play back at us, we'll have to adjust or raising and calling ranges. Perhaps instead of calling the flop on the hand in question, we would instead try to raise it and end the hand right there. On another hand where we don't want to get check/raised, we might opt to check behind against this opponent. I don't think we're ever too worried about how a play affects our table image, though. What's important is that we know what our image is so that we can exploit that for maximum profit.Quote:
Originally Posted by KeeKoLy
I highly doubt that such a play would be recommended for beginners. This is truly a recipe for spew at low stakes in the hands of someone who doesn't know exactly what they're doing and why they're doing it. Typically when he says, "for the sake of the video," he's making an unrecommended play for a chance to get into more interesting, instructive spots.Quote:
Originally Posted by KeeKoLy
VPIP is the percentage of hands that you voluntarily put money in the pot. Checking the big blind counts as 0/1 in PokerTracker, for whatever reason (I think it should be 0/0). Most of the HUD stats that we talk about are in terms of percentages, expressed in number of occurrences / number of opportunities. Thus 3bet% is number of 3bets / number of times you acted with a raise of any kind in front.Quote:
Originally Posted by KeeKoLy
VPIP per position works the exact same way as overall VPIP. After a very large sample size, late positions should have a higher VPIP than early positions. I don't know what you mean by "CO", I think you're actually referring to UTG. The positions, starting from the button and moving away from the blinds, are BUT, CO, HJ, MP2, MP1, UTG+1, UTG, BB, SB.Quote:
Originally Posted by KeeKoLy
Button VPIP should probably not be double the CO. It should probably end up somewhere in the range of 25-60% higher depending on how you play, but not double (100% higher). PFR should be 0-5 points lower than VPIP in general, but depending on table conditions could be as high as a 10 point difference.