Where did I say you're doing what you did last game?
01-15-2013 09:57 AM
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Where did I say you're doing what you did last game? | |
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01-15-2013 10:00 AM
#77
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Also, how exactly would it be wolfy if I'm doing what I did last game? I started out villager. | |
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01-15-2013 10:05 AM
#78
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You're firing blanks boyo. | |
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01-15-2013 11:55 AM
#79
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01-15-2013 12:16 PM
#80
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Sorry, but I did not get the memo about not lynching newbes who bother to post | |
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01-15-2013 12:57 PM
#81
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lets string up pascal. hes a semi WW noob that we can all feel good about lynching. his posts have been sloppy and im not sure how he can help the village much. | |
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01-15-2013 12:59 PM
#82
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In general, I prefer to lynch inactives on day 1, especially if they will be modkilled due to inactivity. Otherwise, more players end up dead by the end of the day, and there is a higher probability that they are villagers than wolves. And if I had to choose between an inactive regular and an inactive new player, I'm going to vote for the inactive new player. | |
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01-15-2013 01:04 PM
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There are only 2 new players, that I know of -- daven and aubrey (although I don't know who Fulsky is, so he might be a third?). Daven has definitely been taking an interest in the game so he's off my day-1 list. Aubrey has posted a few times, although so far nothing of substance -- I'll let her slide for day 1. | |
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01-15-2013 01:36 PM
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How about leaving pascal for the Vig to finish off. The "is daven a noob?" post shows he will be a terrible villager in the endgame. Its not even as if its missing one post where Daven said that he was a noob, he quite clearly posted that he didn't understand my post where i was talking about daven saying that he was a noob and it was also posted after i clarified what i wrote this morning and once again said that daven was a noob. If he can't spot the blindingly obvious hows he going to spot the links the wolves try and keep hidden. |
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01-15-2013 02:47 PM
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Sticking with my vote for now, basically for the same reasons gizmo gave few posts above. It´s arbitrary for bigred or fulsky tho. | |
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01-15-2013 03:16 PM
#86
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Yeah where the fuck is jyms? Also Xtr seems wolfy to me but I'm pretty sure its because he was a wolf nearly every time I played with him and I have no reason to find him suspicious just yet. Agree with the comments on pascal but I'm not sold on him yet. Don't like the no shows which generates more interest from me than anything else but I guess its still early in the day. | |
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01-15-2013 04:15 PM
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01-15-2013 05:19 PM
#88
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Agree with hoopy. We've been fucked by inactives time and time again and every time we day right we won't let this happen next game and then next game we do it again. | |
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01-15-2013 05:20 PM
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Your post is almost as bad as Pascal's post. How do you define someone who has made several posts with glaring errors as being inactive. I'm not pulling the vig shoot inactive trick . I'm saying let the vig shoot someone who is likely to be a liability in the endgame rather than wasting a lynch on him. Either way he will be dead. If he's a villager the wolves aren't going to kill someone who they see as beneficial to their cause, we should be trying to find and kill wolves with the lynchs not taking out the inept and certainly shouldn't risk shooting the seer or angel this early in the game. |
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01-15-2013 06:16 PM
#90
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That was a fun slew of posts. Won't be drinking that much for quite some time. A race between pascal and bigred is probably best today. |
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01-15-2013 06:18 PM
#91
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BTW I do think gabe is a wolf and hoopy did us all a favor by catching JV wolfing |
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01-15-2013 06:29 PM
#92
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Wuf, your ego in WW never ceases to amaze me. The fact that you think you can catch yourself a wolf on day 1 is ridiculous. | |
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01-15-2013 06:34 PM
#93
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I don't say this often, but I like Boog's thought process here. | |
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01-15-2013 06:45 PM
#94
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boog is doing that thing where he's not paying too close of attention, which means he's a villager. bigred is also inactive and we've let him get to endgame several times by way of nothing. jyms is a good lynch too; it appears he may be awol this game. fulksy is in similar categories, but i think he's less dangerous since he has been very easy to figure out when awol |
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01-15-2013 07:14 PM
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lynch fulksy | |
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01-15-2013 07:22 PM
#96
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rescind Ong | |
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01-15-2013 07:28 PM
#97
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just for the record i've been lurking like a motherfucker all day while at work (it was a slow-ish day) and have been second guessing myself every time i thought i had something to say. | |
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01-15-2013 07:50 PM
#98
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trolling freetrollers
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i've read through the posts and understand a lot more of what is going on. Sorry for my spam earlier. I think that what follows makes sense. |
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01-15-2013 08:02 PM
#99
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or which one of those archetypes is likely to be presented by a wolf? wolves dont usually play "dumb" because its too risky to get seen as an expendable incompetent villager.(but maybe an experienced wolf would because they might get a pass for their past achievements) | |
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01-15-2013 08:15 PM
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trolling freetrollers
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who are most likely to be wolves? I guess it's best to start from the an 'innocent until proven guilty' perspective cos probability of randomly chosen player being villager >>> than being wolf. |
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01-15-2013 08:20 PM
#101
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trolling freetrollers
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It seems that we generate more useful info if we run wagons on an inactive vs an active player rather than on two inactive players. Or is there too much risk of taking out an active villager? |
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01-15-2013 08:32 PM
#102
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Vote Count 1.03 | |
Last edited by JKDS; 01-15-2013 at 10:29 PM. | |
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01-15-2013 09:06 PM
#103
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Daven, | |
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01-15-2013 09:06 PM
#104
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lets also be suspicious of the inactive voters.. hoopy/rong/jackvance/gizmo mostly. 1 of them is probably a wolf prudently waiting to pick which bandwagon is least suspicious. a wolf team never rushes out and all votes early. theres always 1 wolf who waits until the end. | |
Last edited by gabe; 01-15-2013 at 09:09 PM. | |
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01-15-2013 09:15 PM
#105
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tbh bigred not throwing out his "gator must be a wolf" strategy seems weird. | |
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01-15-2013 10:23 PM
#106
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jkds - i did vote. i voted to lynch jyms. | |
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01-15-2013 10:31 PM
#107
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01-15-2013 10:40 PM
#108
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I'm here. I'm not disappearing. There is no thing where I'm not paying attention. I just believe day 1 is a bunch of dribble and simply works best in hindsight. To think you have some kind of soulread on someone on day 1 is egotistical in my eyes. The best thing we can do is make a point that this isn't the game to be completely inactive. | |
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01-15-2013 10:41 PM
#109
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Players like Wuf and Ong try to find a wolf on day 1 just so they can feel good about being able to say they found one. They live for the "see? I was right about him being a wolf." | |
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01-15-2013 11:05 PM
#110
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Partially. I play like that due to excitement and strategy, and I rile shit up because I believe the pieces fall into place better afterwards. |
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01-15-2013 11:14 PM
#111
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On that note, I personally don't understand a jyms vote. He's obviously the highest value of the 3. Gator, Keith, and XTR, what are your explanations for a jyms vote. I left Aubrey out because she wouldn't know jyms is higher value. | |
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01-15-2013 11:15 PM
#112
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The only way a jyms vote makes sense is for a wolf who wants to off the highest value inactive. | |
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01-15-2013 11:16 PM
#113
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I'M BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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01-15-2013 11:23 PM
#114
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His total lack of inactivity is very puzzling and something I could see him doing on purpose on day 1 so he could play the "why would I be inactive on day one and draw attention to myself" strategy later. I distinctly remember Jym's pulling fairly bold moves on day one then using them later in the game to make himself look like a villager. For example his very first post in the werewolves and vampires game was to lynch crazyvette, a fellow vampire). | |
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01-15-2013 11:26 PM
#115
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01-15-2013 11:27 PM
#116
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my guess is that he was going to play this out a little longer but started getting heat and had to abandon the strategy. | |
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01-15-2013 11:27 PM
#117
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Yeah it's true. | |
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01-15-2013 11:35 PM
#118
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No seriously I haven't posted since Friday and anyone that has me on FB would know I haven't posted there either, nor been on skype, IRC or Digsby. | |
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01-15-2013 11:38 PM
#119
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Also after posting so much the last two games I would never switch that strat as a wolf because it would make people suspicious immediately. I deserved the heat for inactivity, but I'm back and hope to return to old form. | |
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01-15-2013 11:49 PM
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Awww snap, we started! Did not realize this. Going to read through thread but a big middle finger goes to TJ since I saw he bolded me. | |
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01-15-2013 11:50 PM
#121
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ok, I will give you the benefit of the doubt for now and rescind jyms | |
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01-15-2013 11:53 PM
#122
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I'm gonna suggest an xtr lynch. Pascal is active, bigred and fulsky will probably be active once they realise we've started, xtr is someone who likes to float by and he's given me reason to think he could be a wolf. If he turns out to be, then pascal is probably a wolf too. | |
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01-15-2013 11:54 PM
#123
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jyms, the forum resizes the sigs for me so theyre not big anymore. maybe you should look into that |
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01-15-2013 11:55 PM
#124
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trolling freetrollers
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01-15-2013 11:57 PM
#125
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01-15-2013 11:58 PM
#126
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People, get off fulsky. His lynch serves no purpose. He will be involved when he joins us. It's a readless vote and if we lynch him without him even posting, it gives us nothing, even if he's a wolf is minimum info. Give him a day. | |
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01-15-2013 11:59 PM
#127
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After reading posts | |
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01-16-2013 12:04 AM
#128
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BTW, not sure what to think of this D0zer player...sure is posting a lot | |
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01-16-2013 12:05 AM
#129
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bigred, you can think what you like about d1, but my last villager game, I was awesome on d1 then shit afterwards, I sniffed out jyms and stacks. In that game I mention on another site, I sniffed out three mafia before we got a confirmed kill. I have a little more faith in my d1 reads after these games. | |
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01-16-2013 12:20 AM
#130
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Lynching an inactive on day 1 doesn't necessarily immediately help us, but the day 1 voting record and discussions definitely come into play later in the game. Killing off an inactive now is better than taking the modkill if fulksy doesn't bother to show up. | |
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01-16-2013 12:21 AM
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01-16-2013 12:22 AM
#132
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This is too easy. | |
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01-16-2013 12:23 AM
#133
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lol you're right jyms. Still, xtr1000 is a good lynch today. | |
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01-16-2013 12:25 AM
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01-16-2013 12:26 AM
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01-16-2013 12:29 AM
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01-16-2013 12:30 AM
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i just turn sigs off | |
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01-16-2013 12:30 AM
#138
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You seem a little aggressive in your tone, most out of character. | |
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01-16-2013 12:37 AM
#139
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jyms, just change resize settings on Edit Options page in profile. I leave my boxes blank and it resizes everything pretty well |
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01-16-2013 12:38 AM
#140
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honestly i wouldnt use half of the sigs i do if i knew you guys weren't resizing. some of them are pretty big and probably annoying |
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01-16-2013 12:40 AM
#141
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Hmm... my tone wasn't meant to be aggressive, more flippant. I was actually curious if you had reasons or if you were just throwing out names (common for you on day 1). | |
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01-16-2013 12:46 AM
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Ok, well sure I have what I consider sound reasons for a d1 lynch, it's not just random. I don't see how lynching fulsky is a good move because we're basically lynching him for not starting fast enough. I think we should judge his activity from the point he joins us, not but how fast it takes him to do so. xtr1000, on the other hand, he's posted twice, so he knows we're go. He's quiet too, but based on previous games, fulsky will be more involved once he joins. Plus there's actually someone claiming to have a wolf read on xtr1000, so we get more info than if we lynch at random, which is basically all a fulsky lynch is while he's not here. | |
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01-16-2013 12:58 AM
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Fulksy doesn't have the luxury of joining in whenever he wants and being valuable at that point. If he's been inactive the entire day 1, he will be modkilled. That's the only reason I want to lynch him -- having multiple villagers die on day 1 is not a good way to start the game. I've had this exact same argument pretty much every game. Given that (a) it's day 1 and we have very little information to act on, (b) a player will be modkilled, and (c) a random lynch will likely hit a villager rather than a wolf, it's better for the village to lynch the modkill. | |
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01-16-2013 01:03 AM
#144
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strong new information like what?? i dont think thats possible at this early. lets just kill fulksey. its weird onbonga is so against it. | |
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01-16-2013 01:27 AM
#145
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01-16-2013 01:28 AM
#146
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I missed a bit of your quote there gizmo and it changes the context lol. | |
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01-16-2013 02:45 AM
#147
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Out of the 3 inactives that were mentioned, 2 popped up and started playing | |
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01-16-2013 03:03 AM
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Re gabe post 104. Jyms is not usually inactive, quite the opposite in fact. | |
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01-16-2013 03:22 AM
#149
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Hmm, last post is irrelevant. | |
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01-16-2013 03:25 AM
#150
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