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    I dont get the keith shot. Wolf dayvigs would want to shoot keith after he effectively cleared himself, and i dont see any pro-town reason to shoot him otherwise.

    Monstr is doing the same thing this game as last game. Was a villager last time iirc. There isnt any reason to policy lynch in this game since baudib promised crazyness and there is at least one vig left (thor) in addition to a 3rd party. Lynch for wolfyness.

    Lets lynch keybored. He knew keith was a villager based off of very little, and has reason to want to buddy him as a wolf. He also said "alas", which isnt a word anybody ever uses and means hes being creative when writing posts.

    lynch keybored
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    The biggest thing stopping me from lynching ong is that wolf-dayvigs are usually pretty rare. Given that theres a vig, a 3rd party, and a bunch of other roles, im not sure a balanced game would give wolves additional killing power. Im not sure wolves would want to immediately burn it on day 1 either (consensus last game with wolf-dayvigs was to wait and spring it on the villlage at end game).
  3. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew View Post
    Daven is a villager
    Agreed
  4. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by JKDS View Post
    Lets lynch keybored. He knew keith was a villager based off of very little, and has reason to want to buddy him as a wolf. He also said "alas", which isnt a word anybody ever uses and means hes being creative when writing posts.
    "Let's lynch yada yada." is a wagon call. This early, means JK's a wolf. I sniffed Keith as V cuz he's been an enigma to me, so I've studied him. And I've used "alas" in every game, it's my thing, kid.

    Lynch JKDS
  5. #155
    Wow this game blew up while I was asleep.

    I'm shocked that keith would self lynch over nothing wtf, makes no sense at all.

    Need to reread the Ong shot bit.

    rescind monstrman
  6. #156
    If I'm a wolf with a dayvig shot, why the hell don't I wait to shoot someone more interesting than someone who is 95% vanilla? It's kind of good to see some paranoia, but anyone voting for me is not thinking this through. Even if I'm a wolf, well there's a SK that can kill me. I'm a villager and I'll be night dead in no time. Don't be silly.

    The keith shot was necessary imo. He wasn't going to get lynched, and if he did we watse an entire day and lynch.
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  7. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by monstrman View Post
    oh derp momo claimed davig well lock clear I guess lolme
    Why are you sure he's lock clear?
    Quote Originally Posted by JKDS View Post
    The biggest thing stopping me from lynching ong is that wolf-dayvigs are usually pretty rare. Given that theres a vig, a 3rd party, and a bunch of other roles, im not sure a balanced game would give wolves additional killing power. Im not sure wolves would want to immediately burn it on day 1 either (consensus last game with wolf-dayvigs was to wait and spring it on the villlage at end game).
    I'm not sure baudib was aiming for this game to be balanced. However I agree the wolves wouldn't use it early as it's potentially a late game winner.
  8. #158
    lynch JKDS
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  9. #159
    There's a good reason why keybored is a villager, and JKDS I would expect to have found it. I'm not going to spell it out but we're not killing him today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monstrman View Post
    this is kinda villagery imo
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    dan you're a lucky bastard. I was very tempted to shoot you with my first post. But that would've been pure spazz.
    I would have shot you. I'd feel bad afterwards, but during that kill posting moment I'd feel delighted.
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    Hmmm. Must have clicked multi quote, didn't know that worked.
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  12. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by dhubermex View Post
    I just wrapped up first two seasons of The Vikings o netflix, so this will be fun.

    There's nothing obvious that sticks out to me at the moment, but it's very early still. I agree with BID's observation of Ong in #34, but not enough to formally lynch yet.
    Fair enough. Deviation from standard intro post though, not much to infer from it though.
    Quote Originally Posted by dhubermex View Post
    My Observations so far...

    OngBonga: TWTBAW is standard Village game for him

    Keith:

    BID: Completely full of it... wolfy

    MMM: Used words input output for first time I recall. Also hopped on me due to non-claim... wolfy

    lynch BID
    What does TWTBAW mean?

    Agree on keith.

    So is that based on BID's continued argument with Ong?
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    Wolf ong shouldn't kill Keith there. It's too useful a weapon. That said, if wolf ong doesn't do it there and waits for a better moment he probably has to out himself as a wolf to use it, so it was possibly the one chance a wolf gets to day vig without looking like a wolf.

    And Keith was always always always a villager there.

    There has been no mechanics and balance criticism from wuf on his usual villager style.

    Every game since I can remember I know wuf is a villager on day one, today I don't. I'd lynch him for that alone.

    lynch wuf
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    Just remembered wuf bolded me, that was not tit for tat.
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  15. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    If I'm a wolf with a dayvig shot, why the hell don't I wait to shoot someone more interesting than someone who is 95% vanilla? It's kind of good to see some paranoia, but anyone voting for me is not thinking this through. Even if I'm a wolf, well there's a SK that can kill me. I'm a villager and I'll be night dead in no time. Don't be silly.

    The keith shot was necessary imo. He wasn't going to get lynched, and if he did we watse an entire day and lynch.
    'Keith needs to be shot because he's never getting lynched' is den logic, not villager logic. You have no right to wave a 'not thinking this through' card at anyone right now
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  16. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    Wolf ong shouldn't kill Keith there. It's too useful a weapon. That said, if wolf ong doesn't do it there and waits for a better moment he probably has to out himself as a wolf to use it, so it was possibly the one chance a wolf gets to day vig without looking like a wolf.

    And Keith was always always always a villager there.

    There has been no mechanics and balance criticism from wuf on his usual villager style.

    Every game since I can remember I know wuf is a villager on day one, today I don't. I'd lynch him for that alone.

    lynch wuf
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  17. #167

    "You will find in me, a fair ruler.... There will be no law other than my own."


    JKDS 3
    (Boog #80, Ong #158, Keybored #164)
    Ong 2 (Luco #25, BID #148)
    Monstrman 1 (Hoopy #26)
    Dhubermex
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    Keybored 1 (JKDS #151)
    Rong 1 (Wuf #89)
    BID 1 (Dhubs #138)
    Wuf 1 (Rong #163)

    not voting: Daven, Gabe, Monstrman
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  18. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy View Post
    What does TWTBAW mean?
    Where the hell have you been the last 3 games???
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  19. #169
    Mod Corner

    Q: Will it be known when a player acquires a triple vote ability?
    A: No, but there may be hints when a power is awarded.

    Q: What is the best thing about being a Viking?

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    A: blondes
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  20. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy View Post
    What does TWTBAW mean?
    on 2nd thought...there's no way Hoopy doesn't know this. looks like feigned innocence. wolfy!
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  21. #171
    ffs I'm not going to argue with people about my motive, you'll see soon enough that I'm a villager. For me to be a wolf, I have spazzed a very strong role on d1 killing an obvious vanilla. I did not want the keith thing to linger into d2 and beyond. It's dealt with. If people have a problem with what I did, well you can moan at me all you like, but accusing me of being a wolf is unhelpful, furthermore it could be an effort to look like you're doing something while actually not doing anything constructive.

    Keith could have been the SK with a dose of FPS. Yes it was unlikely, but it was more likely that him being seer. If I'm a wolf with a dayvig, then I would seek a much more damaging shot than that. I would be special hunting.

    That said, if wolf ong doesn't do it there and waits for a better moment he probably has to out himself as a wolf to use it, so it was possibly the one chance a wolf gets to day vig without looking like a wolf.
    Actually this is not true. I didn't need to post the kill in the game thread, I could've just shot keith by pm and kept quiet about it. But that would be really fishy, I didn't want there to be any doubt about who did it. Furthermore, this should demonstrate that I'm a villager, because if I can keep quiet about my dayvig shot, then its optimal use would be a seerhunting tool.

    If I'm somehow still alive on d3 and beyond, then I'll accept suspicious eyes because I'll be dodging two factional kills. But until then, look elsewhere for wolves, otherwise you just look to me like you're doing nothing while trying to look like you're doing something.
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    mod question

    Can the day vig kill via pm or does it have to be in thread? Or are we not meant to know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post

    "You will find in me, a fair ruler.... There will be no law other than my own."


    JKDS 3
    (Boog #80, Ong #158, Keybored #164)
    Ong 2 (Luco #25, BID #148)
    Monstrman 1 (Hoopy #26)
    Dhubermex
    1 (MMM #108)

    Keybored 1 (JKDS #151)
    Rong 1 (Wuf #89)
    BID 1 (Dhubs #138)
    Wuf 1 (Rong #163)

    not voting: Daven, Gabe, Monstrman
    This VC is bogus in more than 1 way.

    Post #25 was ong voting Luco.
    Monstrman has 0 votes on him now.
    boog has a vote on him from Luco.

    Did I miss any?
  24. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    mod question

    Can the day vig kill via pm or does it have to be in thread? Or are we not meant to know?
    I'd hardly lie about this if there's a chance my lie gets exposed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    ffs I'm not going to argue with people about my motive, you'll see soon enough that I'm a villager. For me to be a wolf, I have spazzed a very strong role on d1 killing an obvious vanilla. I did not want the keith thing to linger into d2 and beyond. It's dealt with. If people have a problem with what I did, well you can moan at me all you like, but accusing me of being a wolf is unhelpful, furthermore it could be an effort to look like you're doing something while actually not doing anything constructive.

    Keith could have been the SK with a dose of FPS. Yes it was unlikely, but it was more likely that him being seer. If I'm a wolf with a dayvig, then I would seek a much more damaging shot than that. I would be special hunting.



    Actually this is not true. I didn't need to post the kill in the game thread, I could've just shot keith by pm and kept quiet about it. But that would be really fishy, I didn't want there to be any doubt about who did it. Furthermore, this should demonstrate that I'm a villager, because if I can keep quiet about my dayvig shot, then its optimal use would be a seerhunting tool.

    If I'm somehow still alive on d3 and beyond, then I'll accept suspicious eyes because I'll be dodging two factional kills. But until then, look elsewhere for wolves, otherwise you just look to me like you're doing nothing while trying to look like you're doing something.
  26. #176
    Whoever made the gif is a genius.
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  27. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by Keybored View Post
    Where the hell have you been the last 3 games???
    Playing, modding and failing in that order. I didn't bother following the ever growing list of abbreviations.

    I've read the lingo thread now.
  28. #178
    @baudib
    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post

    "You will find in me, a fair ruler.... There will be no law other than my own."


    JKDS 3
    (Boog #80, Ong #158, Keybored #164)
    Ong 2 (Luco #25, BID #148)
    Monstrman 1 (Hoopy #26)
    Dhubermex
    1 (MMM #108)

    Keybored 1 (JKDS #151)
    Rong 1 (Wuf #89)
    BID 1 (Dhubs #138)
    Wuf 1 (Rong #163)

    not voting: Daven, Gabe, Monstrman
    I rescinded monstrman in #155
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    @dhubs:
    It's the first time I've used "input/output" before?

    So many thoughts.
    A) You're probably right (as far as WW, at least).
    B) You make your beastly reads based on this kind of input?
    C) Well, it seems to work for you
    D) My vocabulary is impractically prodigal, dhubs... you challenging me?
    E) Are you threatening me? I need TP for my bunghole.
    F) dhubs feels no pressure, and no one else cares about his lack of VV claim.
    G) -.-

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    @boog: WTF, man? You post against JKDS for being absent with your 2nd post. You're easily as absent. I only know you by reputation, so you're easily more noob to me than monstrman.

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    @ong: focus and find some wolfs.

    Your shot was gut-wrenchingly bad. You've easily done the single thing which has hurt the village most and hurt the wolves least. Your actions have set fire to any assumed cred. may have been building.

    Accept the consequences and in the mean time, keep your focus.

    lynch ong who's actions have hurt the village.
  30. #180
    BankitDrew - spazzy, quick "soulread" on me based on nothing, I'm feeling slightly iffy about drew.
    Boog - sup, post shit, talk about stuff. Null.
    Daven - getting good vibes off daven but he's a very good wolf so I'm not happy giving him too many v points. Leaning villager.
    Dhubermex - didn't claim vanilla. Probably not a wolf because he'd surely just stick to his usual first post and adjust next time he's a villager.
    Gabe - standard d1 gabe. Null.
    Hoopy - feels like a villager, he's always a villager though, I can't remember what hoopywolf looks like.
    JKDS - activity is null but his keybored vote is iffy. Leaning wolf.
    Keith - wanker
    Keybored - I have reason to think he's a villager.
    Luco - I feel like luco's suspicion is sincere, leaning villager.
    MadMojoMonkey - very villagery vibes.
    Monstrman - his posts read awkward, like he's not in his comfort zone. I'm leaning wolf/SK.
    OngBonga - mvp already
    Rong - lurking like a boss. Null.
    Wufwugy - he feels like villager wuf, but noone knows what wolf wuf feels like. Leaning villager.
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  31. #181
    Scratch that mojo read, that's a wolfy vote there.
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  32. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    @dhubs:
    It's the first time I've used "input/output" before?

    So many thoughts.
    A) You're probably right (as far as WW, at least).
    B) You make your beastly reads based on this kind of input?
    C) Well, it seems to work for you
    D) My vocabulary is impractically prodigal, dhubs... you challenging me?
    E) Are you threatening me? I need TP for my bunghole.
    F) dhubs feels no pressure, and no one else cares about his lack of VV claim.
    G) -.-

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    @boog: WTF, man? You post against JKDS for being absent with your 2nd post. You're easily as absent. I only know you by reputation, so you're easily more noob to me than monstrman.

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    @ong: focus and find some wolfs.

    Your shot was gut-wrenchingly bad. You've easily done the single thing which has hurt the village most and hurt the wolves least. Your actions have set fire to any assumed cred. may have been building.

    Accept the consequences and in the mean time, keep your focus.

    lynch ong who's actions have hurt the village.
    MoMo...Dude, chill. You're entering the Keith zone. Quit telling ppl what to do and try engaging or appealing to them. Lastly, you want us to lynch a villager for hurting the village? How is that not redundant?
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  33. #183
    lynch ong who's actions have hurt the village.
    Your grammar hurts my eyes.

    Yes I've hurt the village, but I could have hurt the village a lot more later on. Damage limitation is not a bad thing.

    You're hurting the village now, so is everyone who is voting for me. By keeping me lynchable, you're allowing both factions to leave me while they special hunt. If everyone just blindly accepted I was a villager, which should be obvious, well then I'd get killed tonight. That won't happen now. These votes for me are stupid.
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  34. #184
    Quote Originally Posted by Keybored View Post
    MoMo...Dude, chill. You're entering the Keith zone. Quit telling ppl what to do and try engaging or appealing to them. Lastly, you want us to lynch a villager for hurting the village? How is that not redundant?
    How do you know ong is a villager?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keybored View Post
    MoMo...Dude, chill. You're entering the Keith zone. Quit telling ppl what to do and try engaging or appealing to them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Keybored View Post
    Lastly, you want us to lynch a villager for hurting the village? How is that not redundant?
    I don't believe that ong is a villager. How is that not obvious?

    I see no compelling reason that the dayvig is necessarily a village role.

    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Your grammar hurts my eyes.
    Mine, too. The no edit rule hits me harder than you may assume.

    2 votes are on ong. Me and BID.

    The disconnect between the reality and what Ong is saying / doing are attracting my vote.

    Ong can talk his way out of a vote like no one else. As such, anything he says once he's cornered is worth 1% weight to what he says otherwise.
    What ong has done before he shot Keith was making me suspicious, but in a, "D1, it's ong" kind of way.
    When he shot Keith at that time, while the thread was singing that we get a conf. V on D1 - that was - attention grabbing - to say the least.

    I don't intend to get into a he said/she said with ong again (ever). His words are too tricksy.
  36. #186
    It wouldn't surprise me if the two most anti village actions on d1 both came from villagers (ong and keith).

    rescind ong

    Yes mojo, I was on ong.

    Not sure where to aim next. Someone lurky or murky I guess
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  37. #187
    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    mod question

    Can the day vig kill via pm or does it have to be in thread? Or are we not meant to know?
    Actions should be sent via PM, but if actions are posted in the thread, it will count.

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    I'm troubled because my village reads include BID, key, monstr... none of the established heavyweights. I am willing to work with / vote with those people, but we as a group are not the strongest team.

    I want to trust Ong, but I've been burned by that choice in the past, and I'm reluctant to jump on a train to Ongville. I see a lot of red when I read Ong, and it is what it is. I know that he can and will talk me off of voting for him regardless of alignment, too. So I'm not talking to him about my vote. If that seems wolfy, I accept that.

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    So I'm seeing bicuspids whenever Ong opens his mouth, and BID, whom is reading straight Village to me*, has his vote there. So I am voting both for my biggest suspect and with someone whom I think is a V.
    *Call it a wolfy, double-talk, but though I think BID is V, I don't want to be relying on him to win the game, and the wolves will not take him out.

    key's vote is on JKDS, and JKDS is notoriously quiet on D1, and will def. be making a strong case against someone by the end of D2. I'm not voting for JKDS barring a major catastrophe.

    monstr has not placed a vote. It's hard to make a voting block with someone who isn't voting.

    ***
    I want to trust daven, since he snuggled up so close to me, but his vote is still on Keith, AND I have reservations about his late game availability.

    I am open to trusting ong, but he needs to give his final words on the defense of his shot and move on to proving he's a V, now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    Yes mojo, I was on ong.
    Which post was that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Which post was that?
    First post of D1
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    I am open to trusting ong, but he needs to give his final words on the defense of his shot and move on to proving he's a V, now.
    I've explained my shot, and I can prove myself to be villager by dying or getting seered. Preferably the former. There's another vig out there, I wouldn't argue against taking one of his shots, that would be better than being lynched.

    And yeah there was luco, at least pointing his finger at me, dunno if he voted for me, along with dan who's asking for my comments to be clarified by the mod, and daven whose gut reaction was to call me a wolf. So I count five potential votes on someone who should be an obvious villager at this stage of the game. I do not expect obvious villager status if I'm still around deep into the game, but that's so unlikely and is exactly why I should be treated as a villager for the time being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    First post of D1
    Post #23, yeah. My bad. For some reason I had that as a vote for boog in my Excel.

    I think the VC showed it was post #25, and that post has a vote in the opposite direction, so I assumed that was the typo.
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    Ong vig killed a villager in open daylight and many players don't want to lynch him? Wtf does ong have to do on Day 1 to get lynched?

    He literally did the worst thing a villager could do on Day 1 other than keith himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    There's another vig out there, I wouldn't argue against taking one of his shots, that would be better than being lynched.
    I agree with this.

    With you killed by vig, then getting the village to show votes for a different player, will maximize information to analyze.
  45. #195
    Ong is an obvious villager so the fact that he's getting heat at all is ridiculous to me.

    Think I can understand the villager motivation behind it but yeah, dude is lock clear.
  46. #196
    I don't understand how being wrong makes someone a lock wolf either.

    Back on my forum you read players by thir actions as a whole, not just cherry picked reads based on how wrong/right they are.
  47. #197
    I think a villager shoots Keith way more than a wolf does and a lot of people seemed more than happy to ly change him before suddenly he got shot and now suddenly it was the worst thing in the world.
  48. #198
    Ly change is lynch, ldo
  49. #199
    Quote Originally Posted by monstrman View Post
    I don't understand how being wrong makes someone a lock wolf either.

    Back on my forum you read players by thir actions as a whole, not just cherry picked reads based on how wrong/right they are.
    What is this in reference to?
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  50. #200
    I don't know who I want to vote because no one is sticking out as any more overtly wolfy than anyone else and I don't want to toss my vote on a villager.

    Guess it's prolly unlikely that I never vote a villager all game though.

    I was considering voting mom for a bit but I think on this page and in particular the read he made on key part makes him more likely to be a villager than a wolf
  51. #201
    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    What is this in reference to?
    People wanting to massacre Ong just cause he shot keith.

    Also i did it again except this time I confused mono with jkds.

    At this point I think my villagers are

    Jkds
    Ong
    bid

    And then everyone else is kinda static
  52. #202
    Quote Originally Posted by monstrman View Post
    People wanting to massacre Ong just cause he shot keith.

    Also i did it again except this time I confused mono with jkds.

    At this point I think my villagers are

    Jkds
    Ong
    bid

    And then everyone else is kinda static
    Being wrong is not wolfy here either. It just feels very out of character for ong to shoot a near-confirmed villager, he's usually way less retarded than that
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    Quote Originally Posted by monstrman View Post
    I don't understand how being wrong makes someone a lock wolf either.

    Back on my forum you read players by thir actions as a whole, not just cherry picked reads based on how wrong/right they are.
    To your first point, no one is a lock wolf midway thru Day 1 yet.

    To your second, on my forum, on Day 1, we sometimes cast votes midway through the day for one of two reasons: A) to poke and prod people for info; and B) based on the sum total of all current evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    Being wrong is not wolfy here either. It just feels very out of character for ong to shoot a near-confirmed villager, he's usually way less retarded than that
    If I recall, he claimed drunkeness.
  55. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    Being wrong is not wolfy here either. It just feels very out of character for ong to shoot a near-confirmed villager, he's usually way less retarded than that
    Oh well see i don't have really any experience villaging with any of you so I'm probably not qualified to make that read.

    Still from an outsider perspective I can see his motivation behind wanting to shoot keith if he's a villager
  56. #206
    Also this time I'm NOT confusing momo with anyone and saying momo is a likely villager on this page
  57. #207
    I guess given new evidence I would replace ong with momo on my villager list, but I'd probably leave everything else the same.

    Maybe gabe can be there too we'll see how he responds later in the day.

    When is lynch deadline?
  58. #208
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  59. #209
    I shot Gabe d1 last gm and was strung up bucknekid for misfiring a strong villager. I was V but nobody cared. I won't do the same to Ong just cuz I dislike his judgement. My lynch goes to wolf behavior, not bad play.
  60. #210
    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew View Post
    Ong is a cleared villager so I'm gonna go with what he says today.

    rescind
    lynch monstrman
    While rereading, I thought I'd note I didn't like this post but not because you're voting me but because you were just sponging someone you said was a "lock clear villager"

    Though I suppose as I'm posting this i'm actually beginning to think you're a villager since my initial gut reaction was exactly the same.

    No, you can stay on my villager list.
  61. #211
    I also agree that page 2 looks objectively good for daven.
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    i dont think we can compare what keybored did and what ong did

    keith was a wolf much less than average. he wouldnt just spite his wolf team. ong spewed MEGA HARD here. and he got crazy defensive about it

    lynch ong

    seems like a fine place to start. and im skeptical of anyone defending ong
  63. #213
    Of course I got defensive. I did something no sane wolf would do with a dayvig... kill a suspected vanilla... and people respond by giving me shit for it.

    Anyone who actually thinks a wolf with a dayvig takes out keith in that spot is stupid. He was obviously not the seer, I even said so before I decided to shoot him. If I'm a wolf, then I'd either use my dayvig for parity, or to hunt specials. Obviously. As villager, I use it to remove problems. That's why the night vig should deal with me. He knows he's not shooting the seer, and he's removing a problem.

    Where the fuck are rong, jkds and boog? There's a wolf keeping his nose clean in that group. Why no interest now there's real shit to talk about?
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  64. #214
    I still dont get why keith felt like a problem to you
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    Keith gets shot in the dome piece:
    Quote Originally Posted by Keybored View Post
    Told ya he was V.
    FWIW, he never explicitly said "Keith is a V," but goes the "I told you so," route anyway. Trying to get V points, eh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Keybored View Post
    MoMo is a villager.
    Quote Originally Posted by monstrman View Post
    I agree that momo seems like a fairly obvious villager on this page.
    Quote Originally Posted by monstrman View Post
    Sorry, I was confusing momo and ong. Ong is a fairly obvious villager on this page

    momo I have a question for
    Quote Originally Posted by monstrman View Post
    oh derp momo claimed davig well lock clear I guess lolme
    Monstrman is gonna be hard to read come endgame. He's confusing "MoMo" and Ong regularly. I wouldn't mind lynching him to get rid of deadweight.

    Quote Originally Posted by monstrman View Post
    kinda think ong/bid is v/v tbh
    Quote Originally Posted by Keybored View Post
    Agreed
    Keybored seems to think everyone and their mother is a villager. Playing it a little safely, imo.

    Rescind JKDS, lynch Keybored here. His playing it too safely bothers me. If he's a villager, he won't add much since he thinks everyone else is a damn villager anyway.

    I can also go for monstrman as he'll be a pain in my ass to read later.
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  66. #216
    4:07 pm yesterday = Keith self lynched
    4:45-5:30 = Ong bickers about with BID
    5:35 = Wuf comes alive
    6:15 = Monstr comes alive
    8:30 = Ong's DayVig shot
    8:55 = Wuf/Monstr go away
    9:04 = Keith killed by Baud
    9:09 = Ong goes away

    The thread was pretty much dominated by Ong/Wuf/Monstr from ~5:30-9:00, during which, Ong does the DayVig. Then Baud announces and all goes silent. BID was oot/aboot there too but he lives on this thread.

    Point is, my nut hairs tingle when something significant happens when three ppl have taken over the thread for a few hours.
    Collusion?
    or
    Coincidence?
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  67. #217
    Because he had either virtually cleared himself by unfair means, or was a wolf/SK angle shooting. I have a problem with both.

    I can understand why people are annoyed with me. I did the wolves a favour. But I also did the game a favour, or at least that's how I see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keybored View Post
    BID was oot/aboot there too but he lives on this thread.
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  69. #219
    Quote Originally Posted by BooG690 View Post
    Keybored seems to think everyone and their mother is a villager. Playing it a little safely, imo. His playing it too safely bothers me. If he's a villager, he won't add much since he thinks everyone else is a damn villager anyway.
    Soulreading wolves 36 hours into the game is fun but futile. Identifying known villager behavior is much easier and more credible. Statistically, ppl are villagers a helluva lot more than wolves; thus, there's more historical data to work with. Also, a person's wolfish behavior tends to change from game to game. Villager patterns rarely change. I'm using process of elimination versus soulreading.
    I've got 5 solid villagers in my camp. This makes finding the wolves amid the remainder easier to focus on. I'm not playing safe, I'm playing smart. Voting to lynch someone due to perceived "ass pain" or conservatism is reckless and hazardous to the village. I challenge you, BooG to look for wolves and not take the lazy road. We've already lost a villager today. D1 lynch is obv more important now.
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  70. #220
    ong is not a wolf. if he was, he would know that it is important to save the dayvig shot for parity or a seer candidate. this knowledge would override any idea to make himself look villagery by shooting keith

    keith was not a terrible shot. the worst of it is that dayvig should be saved for parity. other than that, keith was not a cleared villager because the op writeup explicitly stated that modkills would be avoided. keith has been wolf lots lately and might have been burned out, and that would have been a super savvy move to get his wolfrole subbed with huge vilcred. you'll notice that my flip flop on him came after i saw this.

    ong's logic for why keith needed to die is quite similar to the same a few days ago when mmm needed to die. players can only have so many asterisks by their names. whether or not the "needed" to die is accurate is a different debate. but it is a thought process that ong uses


    i have little preference other than rong lynch. he told us the best move is to kill him d1 during postgame. and, uh, he's right. granted, that's a shitty policy to have, but it's the policy i'll have until something changes
  71. #221
    ^^ a few games ago not days ago
  72. #222
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    Quote Originally Posted by BooG690 View Post
    Monstrman is gonna be hard to read come endgame. He's confusing "MoMo" and Ong regularly.
    Agreed that monstrman needs to pull his head out of his ass when talking about people.
    These mix-ups make him a solid candidate for votes... but for now I still read him as V.

    On the plus side, IF monstrman flips W before ong dies, then it clears ong from my perspective.
    No way a wolf keeps confusing a buddy and a vil (me).
    He did it later with me and ... JKDS ... I think?.. but second screw up would be intentional, so read-proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ong's logic for why keith needed to die is quite similar to the same a few days ago when mmm needed to die. players can only have so many asterisks by their names. whether or not the "needed" to die is accurate is a different debate. but it is a thought process that ong uses
    How many asterisks does his dayvig shot earn?

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    Rong: Why you think wuf is the best place for your vote at this time?

    daven, hoopy, luco, wuf: cast a vote FFS.
  73. #223
    I'm trying to wrap my head around Ong's play.

    keith would not self lynch as a wolf, there's no benefit at all to his team. So really the only thing he could have been was a frustrated regular villager.

    baudib choosing to sub him rather than kill gave us a confirmed VV. Good for the village because it forces the wolves to waste a kill on him at some point.

    Why would villager Ong shoot him knowing this? Then again why would wolf Ong use the power now when it has way more impact later in the game?

    Either way seems FPS is present.
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    Luco prior to post 90 is all fun and games.
    Luco from 90 - 180 is ong ong ong. Then a rescind on ong when ong gets attention.

    If ong flips W, luco is goin' down.
  75. #225
    Feels like a wolf trying to be very tricky atm.

    lynch Ong

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