Vikings, Gods and Giants Game thread

[gabe]

keith wtf its awesome that people take the time to mod. you are just fucking us. you will be the next "policy" lynch if this goes through



i think monstrman can help the village. he showed he has thought about the game alot and should do fine at showing hes village, if he is. afaic he has the same basic wolf tells as most people. bankitdrew and keybored are alot harder to pin down

[gabe]

ok i missed the baudib post

this game seems elaborately set up so let the mod spew. no one else ran a game this year...

[OngBonga]

keith is now obviously a villager. No way keith would do that if he's a wolf because he'd expect to get modkilled. Doing is as villager is shitty but it's worse as wolf because he's letting down his buddies.

bravo keith, bravo.

[OngBonga]

You wolfed with keybored. Do you honestly put this move in his wolf game?

Yes I can see wolf keybored palling up to villager keith in the hope of avoding his claws. We all know how persistent keith can be, I saw an attempt to keep him on side.

[BooG690]

When'd Keith become such a little girl? Oh shit, is that sexist?

Well, being that JKDS is playing, he's obviously a wolf or whatever they're called this game: Lynch JKDS

[BankItDrew]

No, you're a wolf because you're lying about my reactions, and lying about my seriousness.
And it doesn't matter how many bolds today. And besides, I count two, because the boog and luco votes were just messing about.

Am I the only person here that thinks ong is so incredibly full of shit?

I'm not lying about anything because I haven't given any facts. I've given opinions.

Well, I did give one fact: you made 4 bolds. Which is funny because of the contradiction you made in the above bolded quote.

[OngBonga]

I'm not lying about anything because I haven't given any facts. I've given opinions.

You said I'm serious, when on d1 I often start will trolling posts.

You said that my response to your soulread when I was wolf was to call you an idiot, when actually I ignored you and carried on attacking keith.

You're the one who's full of shit drew. Prove me wrong.

[BankItDrew]

When'd Keith become such a little girl?

this

what a fucking baby

[BankItDrew]

Prove me wrong.

I believe I've already done that but allow me to speak slower for you...
1) You bolded 4 people early.
2) I said you were not taking this seriously.
3) You said you were and that two of the 4 (lol) bolds were just fucking around.

It's pretty simple.

[OngBonga]

Oh ok, you just ignore the bits where you actually are full of shit and focus on the bit that doesn't matter.

[OngBonga]

Show me where I'm always serious, and show me where I called you an idiot after soulreading me, and I'll wind my neck in.

[BankItDrew]

My respect for you has significantly fallen.

1) I didn't say you called me an idiot, I said "in a roundabout way". Do you understand what that means?
2) I didn't say you were always serious. I said you are "usually serious".

I'm done discussing this topic. I guess as a wolf, you've won.

[OngBonga]

Oh no drew's respect for me has fallen.






Shit.

[wufwugy]

if keith is a wolf, they win. if keith got confirmation from the mod in wolfchat that his role wouldnt get modkilled, im gonna bitch so hard it'll crash the servers

lynch rong

[Luco]

keith is now obviously a villager. No way keith would do that if he's a wolf because he'd expect to get modkilled. Doing is as villager is shitty but it's worse as wolf because he's letting down his buddies.

bravo keith, bravo.

true but you get no villager points for this. Ongwolf would definitely want to say it first before someone else does

[monstrman]

ftr once I die you should look closely at all the people who push me because last game is a perfect excuse to hide behind pushing me as a wolf, ldo

[monstrman]

Right input / wrong output.
You wolfed with keybored. Do you honestly put this move in his wolf game?

***
So dhubs decides NOT to use his standard opening.
Noted.

***
BID is squarely in BIDville.

***

I feel like this sympathy grab makes me want to lynch you sooner than later - and not for policy - unless you count my policy of lynching people who think there's a reason they should live beyond their contributions to the hunt.

***

Wolfy.


Why are you leaning V on ong?

It just feels like a thing where, to me at least, ONG seems like he's believes what he's selling, but at the same time I don't think he's right on BID, for however little that's worth.

[monstrman]

I wonder which one of these people posting about keith is actually a wolf that's really mad that keith faded the hammer?

[baudib]

I know it's compelling but...

Mod Note:

Spoiler: Show

no one has died

We will have a sub for Keith.

Carry on like nothing has happened.

[wufwugy]

oh i see you want us to carry on like nothing happened

[baudib]

You'll have to trust me that none of this is role indicative and the sub is happening because ruining Day 1 when a lot of cool things are supposed to develop is a disaster.

[Keybored]

Maybe Keith's a Greek Mythology fan?

[daven]

I've got a read on the sub

lynch Keith's sub

[wufwugy]

MODKILLS
The goal will be to not modkill anyone.

went back and checked. keith could have totally done this as a wolf

whatever

[monstrman]

quick keep talking about the thing we shouldn't talk about!

[wufwugy]

does vilkeith really self-lynch? wouldnt he just skip the offending posts? he doesn't self-lynch whenever he's playing and another player makes a lot of posts, so why would he do it after baud did it three times?

keith has gotten wolf twice recently and tends to play uniquely each time and also likes pulling moves. i think he's burnt out and is pulling a move

lynch keith

[wufwugy]

quick keep talking about the thing we shouldn't talk about!

we can talk about keith

[monstrman]

Coming in with hot reads

I find it moderately unlikely for wolf Wufwuggy to flip flop around on Keith like that, independently of Keith's alignment

[monstrman]

Also giving gabe a slight thumbs up with the caveat that I think wolf gabe would know that's exactly what I'd want to hear.

[OngBonga]

It just feels like a thing where, to me at least, ONG seems like he's believes what he's selling, but at the same time I don't think he's right on BID, for however little that's worth.

lol even I don't believe what I'm selling. I rarely believe what I say on d1, especially this early, it's just that to me, d1 is about getting in people's faces in an effort to get reads.

As for keith, I'm not buying that keith would deliberately angle shoot like that. I can't pretend it didn't happen. Furthermore, this attempt to get him lynched before we even get a sub for him is fishy as hell.

lynch wuf

[wufwugy]

lol even I don't believe what I'm selling. I rarely believe what I say on d1, especially this early, it's just that to me, d1 is about getting in people's faces in an effort to get reads.

As for keith, I'm not buying that keith would deliberately angle shoot like that. I can't pretend it didn't happen. Furthermore, this attempt to get him lynched before we even get a sub for him is fishy as hell.

lynch wuf

call me an optimist since i think keith is more likely to angle-shoot than be a myopic narcissistic cunt

[OngBonga]

Good answer.

rescind

[MadMojoMonkey]

daven's pre-game absenteeism warning:

can't wait to shoot wuf
i'm going to be fairly low content this game if i play - i'll be offline 17th/18 and again a big chunk of 23rd-26th = might be better if i sit this one out?

Assuming normal days, this gives daven a lurker excuse for most of D2 and then D4+ if the game runs that long.
daven too strong to give this lay-low pass, especially in the late game period.
I know it's a paper tiger, but as far as D1 policy lynches go, this one isn't terrible.

***
known roles:
3 real bad wolves
1 pretty bad SK
1 neutral to good vig.
1 very good village Seer

unknown roles:
WGAF, they could be good guys or bad guys and I have no more info than that.

I have a sneaky gut feeling that dhubs is not a VV.
I see better than 66% chance that anyone who is not VV is probably a good idea to lynch.

***
I agree that Keith never abandons the wolf den like this. His replacement is surely not a wolf.
I am not sure about whether Keith would do this as SK.
It's difficult for me to be objective here. Keith was upset that I painted myself as a quitter when I self-lynched.
It's hard for me not to think the word hypocrite now.

call me an optimist since i think keith is more likely to angle-shoot than be a myopic narcissistic cunt

I don't think mod baudib allows a blatant angle-shoot early on D1, rather than call a false start and re-roll.

lynch dhubs

[OngBonga]

mojo has a very good point about keith being unhappy with mojo's self vote against me. Why would keith moan about mojo doing it and then do it himself?

I can't see keith doing that as wolf, for two main reasons. It's shitting on his buddies, and also keith likes to play wolf because he's a sick wolf.

I can't see him doing it as SK either, because SK is the most challenging role I'm aware of. I imagine keith would relish that challenge, rather than bail.

He definitely wouldn't do it as seer, probably not vig either.

Fuck's sake he's very likely to be vanilla, meaning we likely have a freebie clear, plus it helps the wolves special hunt.

Who's the dayvig? Blast him imo.

Wanker.

[OngBonga]

Fuck it. I'm down with dodging potential specials and removing this problem. So what if he's probably a villager. We probably lynch a villager anyway, and swinging for keith avoids us forcing an important special claiming, plus it means it doesn't help the wolves with special hunting. It does give them a d1 doge though. That seems the price of keith's faggotry.

lynch keith

[MadMojoMonkey]

OP reads like ultimately, the SK's wincon is mere survival.

Camping votes on someone who isn't here is unproductive use of D1 time.

I believe the vast majority of the time keith's role is a VV.

I would rather target someone with either more probability of being a wolf/SK, or someone who will not support the village in late game, but may evade attention through the mid game, due to either A) heavier hitters stealing all the thunder, or B) their absence.
right now, I think dhubs has the least VV equity, and only 1 known PR is 100% pro village (vigs tend to shoot villagers from time to time).
I think daven fits A, and BID fits B. Maybe key fits B, too (key played a solid W game, but a spazzy V game).

So what if he's probably a villager.

so you find someone who is less probably a villager to vote for.

[OngBonga]

so you find someone who is less probably a villager to vote for.

That's everybody but me.

Fuck him. I can't be doing with this problem into d2 and beyond. I don't care if it's anti town to kill someone I think is very likely to be town. I might be wrong, and if not, I don't care.

Bye bye keith. That's my position right now. But I've been drinking. Maybe when I have a hangover I'll insult keith, then after a few bongs I'll say sorry and look for wolves. But right now I'm annoyed about this, and feel that removing him now is the best thing to do.

[Keybored]

MoMo is a villager.

[OngBonga]

I think mojo is a villager too.

Anyway I'm solving this problem. I was gonna wait but what the hell is a dayvig for if not for removing problems like this.

dayvig keith

[wufwugy]

oh damn. i approve of this message

[wufwugy]

actually if the dayvig is like the hotshot, so its biggest power is to wait until parity

whatever

[OngBonga]

I'm one shot. I'm done, I'm practically vanilla. So angel don't protect me, let me get nommed to save other specials.

[OngBonga]

actually if the dayvig is like the hotshot, so its biggest power is to wait until parity

whatever

Yeah maybe I don't get that far.

[monstrman]

I agree that momo seems like a fairly obvious villager on this page.

[monstrman]

Sorry, I was confusing momo and ong. Ong is a fairly obvious villager on this page

momo I have a question for

[Keybored]

Yes I can see wolf keybored palling up to villager keith in the hope of avoding his claws. We all know how persistent keith can be, I saw an attempt to keep him on side.

I've been paying attn to Keith the last few games in an attempt to understand his menacing style. Initially I rejected him for his crude and insulting manner but that was a bad move. So, whereas I would have ignored him b4, now I was trying to read his intentions more clearly. Alas, it's moot now. FWIW, I still think/agree he's vill.

[monstrman]

why dhubs?

[OngBonga]

Of course he's probably a villager. But there's a small chance he's not, and besides, there's a very good chance I spazz shoot an important special. Well not now. I've made decent use of my power. I've probably killed a vanilla, and I take a nom for the team.

[wufwugy]

eh it's keith. it's not a bad kill if he's vanilla

he should know that his behavior eliminates any of his credibility for when he berates others for their behavior, which he adores doing. the problem is he might not realize that

so far im giving him the benefit of the doubt in that if he used an ounce of logic it would mean he would do this more often as a wolf than a villager

[baudib]

PROCESSING "kill keith"

[OngBonga]

dan you're a lucky bastard. I was very tempted to shoot you with my first post. But that would've been pure spazz.

[monstrman]

oh derp momo claimed davig well lock clear I guess lolme

[monstrman]

oneshot dayvig is like my favorite role, by the way.

If I'm in a larger game more shots are preferred, obv.

[MadMojoMonkey]

why dhubs?

In my first post there are 3 sentences which contain the word vanilla. They are direct copy/pasta from dhubs first post of the last 3 games he played. In all of those games he was a VV.

This is the first time he has not openly claimed it. It's thin, I admit, but it's more than nothing.

oh derp momo claimed davig well lock clear I guess lolme

[baudib]

Keith has been killed.

Spoiler: Show

You are Athelstan, warrior priest. You were originally a monk who was captured by Ragnar Lothbrok in a raid on an English monastery. As a servant to Earl Ragnar, you were trained as a true viking warrior and converted to the worship of Odin the All Father.

You are a vanilla villager. You are the heart of the game and your vote is your weapon.

You may acquire new abilities as the game progresses.

You win when all threats to the village are eliminated.

[MadMojoMonkey]

oneshot dayvig is like my favorite role, by the way.

If I'm in a larger game more shots are preferred, obv.

[OngBonga]

Blam.

lynch monstr

[OngBonga]

mojo and wolf scream villager to me, keybored I'm 50/50 on, drew I haven't got a fucking clue, I was just winding him up and hoping to get a read... monstr though, his posts on this page read really awkward.

[OngBonga]

mojo and wolf

Haha that's a fucking weird typo.

mojo and wuf, that should read.

Maybe Jesus is trying to tell me something.

[Keybored]

Told ya he was V.

[Keybored]

Keith was V.
Ong's a V.
MoMo's a V.
I'm V.V.

This is too easy.

[BankItDrew]

And then that happened!

LOL GG ong

I actually think it was a bad play (trying not to be results oriented here). Before the shot, I thought it was more likely that keith would not want to self-lynch after rolling wolf. I just don't think he'd do that to his teammates.

I failed hard on the ong soulread, my bad. rescind

I've bugged dhubs every time he claimed VV because I thought it was funny as hell. Therefore, I'm in agreement with MMM's read...

lynch dhubs

[dhubermex]

My Observations so far...

OngBonga: TWTBAW is standard Village game for him

Keith:

BID: Completely full of it... wolfy

MMM: Used words input output for first time I recall. Also hopped on me due to non-claim... wolfy

lynch BID

[daven]

ong is wolf imo.
keith was well on the way to getting lynched there, villager ong doesn't use his shot like that. Wolf-ong does - kills two birds with one stone = 1) he gets rid of a known villager early on day 1 and gives the wolves a decent chance of heading into night 1 with two villagers dead, and 2) he gets people calling him lock-villager. Pretty nut outcome for a wolf.

[daven]

Assuming normal days, this gives daven a lurker excuse for most of D2 and then D4+ if the game runs that long.
daven too strong to give this lay-low pass, especially in the late game period.
I know it's a paper tiger, but as far as D1 policy lynches go, this one isn't terrible.

you make a good point. I'm also not sure i'll keep up/catch back up after two days out, depends on how post-heavy the game is i guess. But.. and this is a huge but.. i know i'm a villager = right now any other random lynch is better cos maths -> 1/13 is greater than zero.

[baudib]

"Freya has decided the day we will die, and there is nothing we can do to change it."

Player - votes for - voters


Monstrman 3 (Hoopy #26, Keybored #31, Ong #132)
Dhubermex 2 (MMM #108, BID #137)
Ong 1 (Luco #25)
JKDS 1 (Boog #80)
Rong 1 (Wuf #89)
BID 1 (Dhubs #138)


not voting: Rong, JKDS, Daven, Gabe, Monstrman


Day ends in ~ 38 hours, 30 minutes

[BooG690]

JKDS nowhere to be found. Wolfie imo. Also, Monstr is gonna be impossible to read later. Can we kill him?

[BankItDrew]

Ong is a cleared villager so I'm gonna go with what he says today.

rescind
lynch monstrman

[daven]

Ong is a cleared villager

nope.

[Luco]

keith is now obviously a villager. No way keith would do that if he's a wolf because he'd expect to get modkilled. Doing is as villager is shitty but it's worse as wolf because he's letting down his buddies.

bravo keith, bravo.

ong is either a wolf or a goldfish

[BankItDrew]

nope.

Ong is the day vig

[daven]

Ong is the day vig

please show me where it says that the day vig power can only be held by a villager, and never by a wolf... then read post 139... after reading post 60...

[BankItDrew]

rescind
lynch ong

[BankItDrew]

Daven is a villager

[Luco]

That's everybody but me.

Fuck him. I can't be doing with this problem into d2 and beyond. I don't care if it's anti town to kill someone I think is very likely to be town. I might be wrong, and if not, I don't care.

Bye bye keith. That's my position right now. But I've been drinking. Maybe when I have a hangover I'll insult keith, then after a few bongs I'll say sorry and look for wolves. But right now I'm annoyed about this, and feel that removing him now is the best thing to do.

To quote villager ong from last game, don't act on emotion

I don't know why you would ever shoot him as a villager