Okay there's a ton here, so I'll keep it as brief as possible

Here are a handful of examples of Rilla doing what he said when I do it is "intellectually absent". There are many, many more, but I'll just post the first three

#28
Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
I think I have 4 villagers so far. I have 2 other wolf candidates, and as much fun as it would be to lynch Wuf Day 1, I can't help to think at least 1 wolf jumped all over him.

yeah it's early
#39
Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
No specials means only tone reads as wagons won't be particularly telling.

I'm betting the wolves aren't pair-bonded together even though that'd be the best of all scenarios.

OP lists 16 people, but has 14 villagers and 4 wolves (for 18), assuming a typo that's 8 pairs.

All wolves with another villager, 4 v-v pairs, 4 w-v pairs. Even though you know your own role, you don't know the value of your life with 100% confidence. Given nothing but tone reads to go off of, villagers are at worst .5 villagers, and at best .9 villagers as they can never really know for sure what their partner's role is.

Hopefully there's one complete w-w pair, so we can stumble into something as a village, otherwise it's a complete guess-fest brought to you by strained tone reads and wacky slip-analysis.
#50
Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
Your first responsibility is to get a read on your partner.

My partner is Baudib. He claims Tiffy (Tunt), I claim Cecil Tunt.

Second, the game is about the wolves total information against our none. With partner-lines known, they'll be less able to defend each other.

They already know all of the villager's they or their buddies are bonded with and can use that to navigate through the lynch mob and claim ignorance after the fact if anyone in the future should sniff them out.
A good 450 posts later, Rilla calls me villager

#543 at 1:05 PM
Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
LilRascal - seems pretty mellow
Keybored - not mellow
Ongbonga - not mellow
Gabe - pretty mellow dude
BID - Bigred's laziness is starting to get under my skin. - sound mellow? nah
Wufwugy - not mellow
Rong - a mellow dude
Luco - a little un-mellow
Boog - not mellow
Hoppy - pretty mellow
Baudib - rather mellow
Monstrman - very mellow
Bigred - pretty mellow
MMM - hard to say, a little grating maybe a little grated?
Daven - super mellow

Mellow analysis finds the following people not yellow:

MMM, Boog, Luco, Wufwugy, BID, OngBonga, Keybored - villagers the lot of 'em!
Then two hours later, he calls me wolf

#619 at 3:17 PM
Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
Wufwugy has been suspiciously absent from the fray.
#638
Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
Fuck it

lynch wufwugy
The above is the sequence of events where I first started watching Rilla. He's usually very keen with his logic, but this demonstrated that his logic did not flow from what he said he believed just a couple hours earlier. Sometimes this isn't a problem, like when things change and we must reassess, but nothing had changed. I was AFK and I have made it very clear several times in the past that this happens, all with specific time periods. I have not posted at the time period Rilla said that during weekdays in forever

This suggested to me that he's pointing fingers more than he's looking for real connections.

#1131
Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
lynch daven

Upon reread, the wolves are in here: hoopy, bigred, daven, baudib, wufwugy, rascal
#1145
Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
lynch bigred
Okay, um, I thought Rilla thought I was a wolf. Guess not

#1270
Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
I've never seen wuf less intellectually invested.
This really got under my skin. Besides the fact that I have been gone for an unusually large amount of the game, every time I was here, I was leading in votes. What am I supposed to do but defend? Rilla said all I did was talk about game mechanics (which isn't true in the first place), but he didn't bother to notice that I was being attacked on my views of game mechanics. I tried to move on from that as much as I could, and I actually did. But Rilla never noticed this. Instead he just kept calling me a wolf

#1272
Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
He's got his game structure arguments, sure, but outside of that I bet I could scrounge up 3 times he's said something to the affect of "but I don't want to get into that".

This is wuf. If he knows he's right, he's gonna share.
Wait a second, so here Rilla himself explains why it is reasonable to think that I would say lots of stuff about game mechanics when I'm in an argument over it, yet he thinks it's wolfy? No. Rilla just made an argument for why it's not wolfy. But again, he doesn't acknowledge this.


Fast forward to stuff that has happened since I was last in the thread

#1488
Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
Wuf is exactly an amateur wolf. also he was AFK.
Baud finally acknowledges that I have been gone a lot more than normal. Yet he makes no move to let this affect his opinion. His and Rilla's case against me entirely depend on the idea that I have not been AFK a lot more than normal. If they're both wolves, they're both wolves with the same opinion. If one's a villager I suspect it's Baud because I think his opinion of me reflects the way Rilla would attack me. The fact that Baud acknowledges how AFK I've been suggests Rilla has acknowledged it in their chat. Yet Rilla still doesn't let new information change his view.

#1570
Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
There's no path to victory that involves Wuf being a V here.

as for self-lynching, it's nothing short of sabotage. add it to the growing list of things Wuf has done this game that are totally out of character for him.
Completely unwilling to look at the facts, even after he declared them to be different than he originally thought. But we should expect that from a guy who has also said he's not reading much of what people say. Or maybe it's just my posts he's not reading. How funny is it that Baud saying I'm not hunting yet he has admitting he's not even reading my so-called MQ's, where I do almost all of my hunting

If the world is right, you both are wolves. Sadly I think it's just Rilla and Baud is his standard hyper-contradictory villager self. The worst of it is that Rilla is obviously not rereading anything. Then he and Baud keep saying "Rilla's too engaged to be a wolf". Clearly he's not too engaged. He's just pointing fingers in one-liners and ignoring new information

#1544
Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
I remember when wuf-ong-and I would have exasperated arguments in these games and neither ong nor wuf "getting it".

Where's wuf? Where's his iron skull leaning into some argument?
AFK like your buddy said. When I've been on, about 50% has gone to defending myself since I've been on the brink of death. The other 50% has been assessing and reassessing my the players, but you've just ignored this about me entirely. If you and Baud weren't ignoring all posts over three lines, you would know this

#1608
Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
I can't wait to read your victory thread.
Dude said this to Luco. How many wolves does this guy have? We can only choose one lynch per day (of two players), but if we lynched everybody Rilla has pointed his finger at while he's supposedly oh so convinced about me, half the village would be dead

#1619
Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
WUFWUGY probably is real life scheduled out of this game
He even admits it


lynch baud