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  1. #301
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy View Post
    Can we get a fresh vote count wufmod?
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    I'll make the village a deal. Lynch gator. If he turns up a villager, the vigilante can shoot me to end the ambiguity over my status. I will happily sacrifice myself for this.
  3. #303
    Or, I will vote to lynch myself once we get to 7 votes, then the village will see that I am on the village's side, and the vigilante can shoot Gator.
  4. #304
    SDM , you are shit at this game , the wolves probably don't care less that you are in the game because you are so bad at it.

    No it's not. It's math. Every game day, the wolves kill a villager 100% of the time and the villagers kill 1 person. When there's a vig, the village gets the equivalent of an extra shot against the wolves.


    you think that stating the bleeding obvious means that you are active and contributing ........whereas you're really like a boil on the bum, A pain in the arse until squeezed til you pop and the irritation goes away.

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    Either way I am dead tonight, what's not to love?
  6. #306
    keith - sdm
    gator - sdm
    tlr - bid
    bid - sdm
    gizmo - sdm
    luco - tlr
    sdm - gator
    daven - ong
    ong - sdm
    jyms - ong
    rong - gator
    jv - gator

    nobody - hoopy, rilla, donkbee

    sdm = 5
    bid = 1
    tlr = 1
    gator = 3
    ong = 2

    Double check that you're where you want to be. I will reference this table for any future vote count and lynching. This applies to the rest of the game.
  7. #307
    so why is it a good idea to lynch gator on your say so ....when he is a likely candidate for the seer to have looked up last night. if he comes back villager we could be down a good vilager and possibly not have a confirmed villager when the seer gets to out that the wolves then have to eat.
  8. #308
    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    you think that stating the bleeding obvious means that you are active and contributing
    TLR just said I was wrong. Why aren't you criticizing him for being wrong?

    whereas you're really like a boil on the bum, A pain in the arse until squeezed til you pop and the irritation goes away.


  9. #309
    The vig should hold his fire tonight. It's a mathematical advantage for the village for the vig to fire every time in a game without a seer, but when the seer is alive, I think he is much more valuable because he can out villagers and wolves at the end of the game for a mathematical elimination of the wolves.
    this is the quote that TLR said was a load of nonsense because its totally ambiguous. you start off talking about it being an advantage for the vig to fire in a game without a seer , then you bring up the seer being alive .....and you talk about "HE" .Is this he the Vig or the seer . i'm assuming you mean the seer , TLR may have taken it as the vig .....whatever ....your ambiguity lead to it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    so why is it a good idea to lynch gator on your say so ....when he is a likely candidate for the seer to have looked up last night. if he comes back villager we could be down a good vilager and possibly not have a confirmed villager when the seer gets to out that the wolves then have to eat.
    I think the seer may have waited to scan gator because he would have anticipated that he would be nommed or hung early. If think the seer would wait a couple of days before scanning gator, instead saving his scans for truly low content posters like TLR.

    I am not liking the number of villagers that are getting by with absolutely no votes or content. If you think Gator was scanned then we should wagon one of them instead.
  11. #311
    Quote Originally Posted by StillDeadMoney View Post
    Does anyone else notice how quickly the wolves maneuvered to get me on the lynch list when Gator was in danger of being lynched quickly? I bet there was a conversation in the wolf den where they decided that they wanted to bring me close to being lynched so that I can "fake out" as something instead of having to take the chance of killing me at night. They wanted to pressure me so that I provide more information and try to save gator at the same time.
    Why would the wolves think that a villager would falsely claim to be a special? Also, Gator only had 3 votes when your wagon gained steam. I wouldn't call that "in danger". You're making no sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by StillDeadMoney View Post
    Killing villagers that are doing a lot of talking is an extremely suboptimal strategy. Later in the game, you'll be able to spot inconsistencies with votes and chatter, which means my role will be transparent (either as a wolf or on the village's side).
    You're already inconsistent.
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    anyone else get the feeling that the wolves are happily mooching along while we lynch the easy targets?
    downside of not lynching those easy targets is that by avoiding the lynch they become easy lynch targets next day. If we'd not lynched bigred yesterday in a late wagon derail to warpe then i suspect i would of been among those baying for his blood today. Same if we don't lynch sdm today unfortunately.

    speaking of easy targets, how is drew managing to get almost zero heat so far?
    here's my feel on everyone

    bid - tending wolf purely by virtue of not getting any wagon traction
    ong - tending wolf as per my previous posts
    bigred - dead village
    gabe - dead village
    sdm - i've got no idea, he's got to go in the next day or two regardless. Too much of a distraction otherwise. Terrible if a villager. If he's villager then wolves aren't going to nom him unless they somehow read him special.
    warpe - dead village
    donkbee - afk, could easily be a wolf drifting. Dunno if she's be missing in action as a villager.
    keith - tending village
    jv - tending village, needs to post more
    jyms - I'm confused. I always think jyms is a lock wolf. So me thinking he's wolf doesn't mean anything.
    rong - nil content, needs to post
    gizmo - i'm confident i'll have a lock read on him a day or two from now.
    gator - gut says village. Reality says he's crafty and could be anything.
    daven - village obv
    hoopy - feels nil content
    rilla - initially thought wolf, now think villager.
    tlr - drifting, villager
    luco - wolf

    ja, wolves = bid/ong/luco/??

    except i'd put no money on it...
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    The village usually lynches easy targets in the early stages, while the wolves sit back and nom any left overs. This isn't exactly out of the norm.

    I agree with you on a few other points as well that I wanted to mention:

    1) I too am very suspect of luco, have been from the start.

    2) I initially thought rilla was a wolf and I went back to see why.
    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    Jyms is a villager.
    I remember when I was a wolf that I wanted to throw out village comments like this to try and get them on my side. This vague "so and so is a villager" type posts is a read of mine I have on rilla. Unlike you, my initial read hasn't changed.

    3) i too always think jyms is a lock wolf. This logic however, dies when my second point is made.

    As far as why a wagon on me hasn't gained any traction, compared to bigred, is that I'm trying to help, no matter how poorly.
  14. #314
    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    TLR , did you read up the last couple of games at the weekend?
    I read the last game


  15. #315
    Quote Originally Posted by StillDeadMoney View Post
    No it's not. It's math. Every game day, the wolves kill a villager 100% of the time and the villagers kill 1 person. When there's a vig, the village gets the equivalent of an extra shot against the wolves.
    The village does not get an extra shot, a specific player gets an extra shot at someone, an average player is more likely to hit a villager then a wolf. Since this is a game of information the village benefits from having more game days, in the likely scenario when a villager dies it effectively shortens the game by a day, making the village life harder
    The vig is beneficial to the village in a few cases - when there is a confirmed wolf - it allows the village to get the wolf without spending a lynch, when the village is in a do or die situation, or when the vig is a very good player


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    orry I'm a little low on the post count. I have no internet aside from my phone and I'm busy at work. I've kept up with the thread though.

    I can see why sdm is gaining traction, but it's not because he seems wolfy. I mean he could be a wolf but the bigger issue is that his behavior is just too at odds with the village to be sustained. But I think anyone claiming they think he's a wolf are kidding themselves and no villager cred should be given to anyone if he does flip wolf. orry I'm a little low on the post count. I have no internet aside from my phone and I'm busy at work. I've kept up with the thread though.

    I can see why sdm is gaining traction, but it's not because he seems wolfy. I mean he could be a wolf but the bigger issue is that his behavior is just too at odds with the village to be sustained. But I think anyone claiming they think he's a wolf are kidding themselves and no villager cred should be given to anyone if he does flip wolf.
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    Fucking phones and fucking internets
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    Based on hunch alone my top picks for a wolf team are gator, Hoopy, jyms and Daven.

    Gator - already explained, not changed my opinion. He also seemed to be in "anyone but me" mode earlier today (ww day)
    Hoopy - already explained, not changed my opinion
    Jyms - he just seems off to me, but he seems wolfy every single time I play with him.
    Daven - seems different, I need to review his posts to pinpoint why as it's not coming to me but something seems off.
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    Cb is gonna be a problem. Her post seemed villagery and if she actually plays I think she'd be an asset to whichever team she's on, but she pretty much stated she'd lost interest in the game and has barely contributed. I don't see how we ever figure her out role.

    Considering we need to lynch sdm, bid and deal with cb before end game our hands are tied and the wolves can pretty much pick their end game opponents. So lets hope one of sdm, bid or cb are wolves. Otherwise it will be a long few days.

    Also, given the frequency of no shows, mods should reduce the wolf team by one from what they would initially do to counter this.
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    I also don't trust Keith at all.
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    Not getting the Luco hate either. He seems villagery to me.
  22. #322
    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    Not getting the Luco hate either. He seems villagery to me.
    It feels like I'm just spending this whole game disagreeing with people
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    Are you guys only lynching SDM because he could be a liability? Because he's so often going to flip villager here, a wishy washy wagon of "ok let's kill this easy target I guess". Isn't there a better option? Why do we always get into such crappy spots?
  24. #324
    Quote Originally Posted by jackvance View Post
    Are you guys only lynching SDM because he could be a liability? Because he's so often going to flip villager here, a wishy washy wagon of "ok let's kill this easy target I guess". Isn't there a better option? Why do we always get into such crappy spots?
    I completely agree. We need to stop the SDM lynch, he's a pretty obvious villager to me and fucked if I'm giving the wolves another free swing at a special.

    JV, how would you feel about a rilla lynch today?
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    Luco how do you consider Rilla a better lynch than gator?
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  26. #326
    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    Luco how do you consider Rilla a better lynch than gator?
    Well my stance is changing with the game tbh. Right now I'm worried about rilla because as I mentioned yesterday, he is a player who really 'shines through' as a villager but today he's a bit of a damp squib. I'm so used to him driving thought and leading us but it's alarmingly absent through D2.

    Earlier I was watching gator and ong tee off and couldn't really pin either of them one way or t'other, then I looked at the post count and they're both near the top so I thought 'feck it, give em both another day'. See my switch to TLR for rationale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    Well my stance is changing with the game tbh. Right now I'm worried about rilla because as I mentioned yesterday, he is a player who really 'shines through' as a villager but today he's a bit of a damp squib. I'm so used to him driving thought and leading us but it's alarmingly absent through D2.
    Exactly, by this time in any game he would normally have put out and refined reads on everyone. This game apart from going after Gator early on he hasn't done much of anything.
  28. #328
    I'm sure what to think of Rilla yet but I'm not too worried about him atm. The gator wagon doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

    rescind gator

    lynch TLR


    You know why TLR always got killed so early by wolves? Because he's usually an obvious villager due to his open playstyle. I'm not feeling it atm and that's grounds for suspicion.
  29. #329
    Quote Originally Posted by jackvance View Post
    I'm sure what to think of Rilla yet but I'm not too worried about him atm. The gator wagon doesn't seem to be going anywhere.
    I have a feeling that JV and Rilla are both in the same camp, and it is not the villager camp
    I am OK with lynching either Rilla, JV or BID

    I think that if CBee continues to fly under the radar we need to put some pressure on her tomorrow


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    It seems like the sdm wagon is down to Keith's posts. Keith is right about the lack of logic and inconsistencies, so the lynch isn't just down to sdm being a liability. But those points are par for the course with sdm so they aren't actually role indicative.

    I don't see a downside to his lynch. I just don't think we have reason to believe he is a wolf. If a reg behaved like him it would be reason to mistrust and therefore reason to lynch. But sdm is sdm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TLR View Post
    I have a feeling that JV and Rilla are both in the same camp, and it is not the villager camp
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    Plus he is an easy target so, if a villager, wolves will doubtless be all over him.

    This is partly why I don't trust Keith. He's found a somewhat legit way of attacking an easy target. Which would make a lot of sense if he's a wolf. I also don't like his "vig, shoot me" thing. I think it's s low risk way of trying to gain villager cred.
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    resync BID
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  34. #334
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR View Post
    I read the last game
    so why do you find it hard to believe that wolves are going to try and stoke suspicion about me after last game when i was a lock villager in the villages eyes?.

    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    orry I'm a little low on the post count. I have no internet aside from my phone and I'm busy at work. I've kept up with the thread though.

    I can see why sdm is gaining traction, but it's not because he seems wolfy. I mean he could be a wolf but the bigger issue is that his behavior is just too at odds with the village to be sustained. But I think anyone claiming they think he's a wolf are kidding themselves and no villager cred should be given to anyone if he does flip wolf. orry I'm a little low on the post count. I have no internet aside from my phone and I'm busy at work. I've kept up with the thread though.
    ok so you don't think he's a wolf.

    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    Cb is gonna be a problem. Her post seemed villagery and if she actually plays I think she'd be an asset to whichever team she's on, but she pretty much stated she'd lost interest in the game and has barely contributed. I don't see how we ever figure her out role.

    Considering we need to lynch sdm, bid and deal with cb before end game our hands are tied and the wolves can pretty much pick their end game opponents. So lets hope one of sdm, bid or cb are wolves. Otherwise it will be a long few days.

    Also, given the frequency of no shows, mods should reduce the wolf team by one from what they would initially do to counter this.
    i don't like the way that you are trying to steer the village to lynching sdm bid and CB and away from wolf hunting. I don't see how that helps the village.

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    I also don't trust Keith at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by rong
    It seems like the sdm wagon is down to Keith's posts. Keith is right about the lack of logic and inconsistencies, so the lynch isn't just down to sdm being a liability. But those points are par for the course with sdm so they aren't actually role indicative.

    Quote Originally Posted by rong
    I don't see a downside to his lynch. I just don't think we have reason to believe he is a wolf. If a reg behaved like him it would be reason to mistrust and therefore reason to lynch. But sdm is sdm.


    I advocate lynching him because of his bad logic and inconsistencies and because of that you don't trust me, yet you wantto lynch him solely because he's bad for the village whilst attempting to defend him .
    Quote Originally Posted by rong
    Plus he is an easy target so, if a villager, wolves will doubtless be all over him.

    This is partly why I don't trust Keith. He's found a somewhat legit way of attacking an easy target. Which would make a lot of sense if he's a wolf. I also don't like his "vig, shoot me" thing. I think it's s low risk way of trying to gain villager cred.


    why would the wolves be all over him if he's a villager? they would be quite content to sit back and let the village muster enough votes to lynch him and keep their hands clean maybe 1 or 2 on the wagon. Also "LOL" at a supposed wolf asking the vig to shoot him as being a "low risk" way of getting villager credit. How effective a strategy is it when the vig follows through?



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    Lol for a smart guy you have an inability to interpret things in a logical manner and to communicate in a clear and concise way.

    I'll respond to your points bit by bit but it will take time on my phone.
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  36. #336
    Quote Originally Posted by StillDeadMoney View Post
    Either way I am dead tonight, what's not to love?
    See I find it difficult to accept that a villager would think like this. It's anti village to say you'll self lynch at 7 votes, because villagers dying is bad. And even if you're cleared it's unlikely to lead anywhere.

    But then again you've said pro village things like with the vig not shooting.
    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    I completely agree. We need to stop the SDM lynch, he's a pretty obvious villager to me and fucked if I'm giving the wolves another free swing at a special.
    Why is he an obvious villager? He's confusing more than anything.
    Quote Originally Posted by jackvance View Post
    Are you guys only lynching SDM because he could be a liability? Because he's so often going to flip villager here, a wishy washy wagon of "ok let's kill this easy target I guess". Isn't there a better option? Why do we always get into such crappy spots?
    Indecision, plus the game is tough until a wolf is actually found.
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    Point 1. "Ok so you don't think he's a wolf".

    I didn't say that and was quite specific about it. Stop being deliberately stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy View Post
    Why is he an obvious villager? He's confusing more than anything.
    SDM is confusing but that doesn't mean his alignment is. The dude just reads like a villager in his own world, with a population of one.
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    rescind TLR

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    Next:
    "i don't like the way that you are trying to steer the village to lynching sdm bid and CB and away from wolf hunting. I don't see how that helps the village."

    I agree with you to some extent aside from the fact that I don't believe what you are doing is actually wolf hunting, although it is designed to look like it either because you think you are or you want to look like you are.

    But going after sdm like you have is what prompted that post. If we're lynching due to players being impossible to read, ie sdm for being his confusing self, then bid would be next in line and cb as a no show would be even harder to get a read on.

    If anything that post illustrates the difficulty of our predicament. We can either go for likely wolves and leave players who are a nightmare to read for end game, or go for confusing and therefore difficult to read players (ie the list I gave ) thereby giving the wolves huge influence over who makes end game.
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    Next point:
    "I advocate lynching him because of his bad logic and inconsistencies and because of that you don't trust me, yet you wantto lynch him solely because he's bad for the village whilst attempting to defend him ."

    I'm saying that bad logic and inconsistencies is standard sdm and not role indicative. Lynching him for this is the same as lynching him because he's bad for the village. That in itself is a reason to lynch him, but you are dodging the fact that this is standard sdm. So you're saying his bad logic and inconsistencies make him a likely wolf. I'm saying they don't. But if we lynch him for that behavior then we should acknowledge what we're doing and not pretend it makes him a likely wolf. Your failure to acknowledge this is what makes me feel uneasy about you.

    That's not defending sdm but refusing to pretend that his lynch is something it's not.
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    rescind sdm

    There are enough people doubting him that I will rescind for now, but haven't reviewed TLR enough to throw out a bold for him.
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    so lets look at rongs belief that i am saying that sdm is a likely wolf. these are all my posts regarding SDM since the new day started and gabe was revealed to be a villager ~#150 ish

    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    how many specials trying to lay low ask to be shot to protect the specials from the vig. you now know that i didn't do that as the Vig as warpe was the Vig at that time.Why are the wolves going to eat someone who is likely to get shot.You deductive powers are in a league of their own .
    so didn't call him a wolf in that one

    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    TLR doesnt seem to be going anywhere

    rescind

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    SDM wagon was already running .
    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    SDM , you are shit at this game , the wolves probably don't care less that you are in the game because you are so bad at it.

    you think that stating the bleeding obvious means that you are active and contributing ........whereas you're really like a boil on the bum, A pain in the arse until squeezed til you pop and the irritation goes away.

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    again , pointing out how bad he is , not that he's a wolf
    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    so why is it a good idea to lynch gator on your say so ....when he is a likely candidate for the seer to have looked up last night. if he comes back villager we could be down a good vilager and possibly not have a confirmed villager when the seer gets to out that the wolves then have to eat.
    again pointing out a logic error
    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post


    this is the quote that TLR said was a load of nonsense because its totally ambiguous. you start off talking about it being an advantage for the vig to fire in a game without a seer , then you bring up the seer being alive .....and you talk about "HE" .Is this he the Vig or the seer . i'm assuming you mean the seer , TLR may have taken it as the vig .....whatever ....your ambiguity lead to it .

    nope , can't see me saying he's a wolf there either

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    Next point:
    "I advocate lynching him because of his bad logic and inconsistencies and because of that you don't trust me, yet you wantto lynch him solely because he's bad for the village whilst attempting to defend him ."

    I'm saying that bad logic and inconsistencies is standard sdm and not role indicative. Lynching him for this is the same as lynching him because he's bad for the village. That in itself is a reason to lynch him, but you are dodging the fact that this is standard sdm. So you're saying his bad logic and inconsistencies make him a likely wolf. I'm saying they don't. But if we lynch him for that behavior then we should acknowledge what we're doing and not pretend it makes him a likely wolf. Your failure to acknowledge this is what makes me feel uneasy about you.

    That's not defending sdm but refusing to pretend that his lynch is something it's not.
    I was lynching him because he's bad for the village , you are the one trying to twist my words to say that i think he is a wolf. That is wolfy shit which is why i have swapped from lynching a bad villager in SDM to a likely wolf in rong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    so why is it a good idea to lynch gator on your say so ....when he is a likely candidate for the seer to have looked up last night. if he comes back villager we could be down a good vilager and possibly not have a confirmed villager when the seer gets to out that the wolves then have to eat.


    again pointing out a logic error

    If we're going to be calling differences in strategy a "logic error" then there are a whole lot of logic errors going around, and they're not just mine.


    I want to talk about a related issue some more. Because the angel cannot protect the seer two nights in a row, it raises the question of when it is optimal for the seer to reveal themselves. I suppose it's when they've found two wolves or the village is close to winning by mathematical elimination by outing villagers and whatever wolves have been found?


    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    Also, given the frequency of no shows, mods should reduce the wolf team by one from what they would initially do to counter this.

    I think making the vig or angel stronger would make more sense. I don't think it is necessary, though.


    Since a rilla bandwagon is forming and he's been on my target list since day 1, I'll hop on.


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  46. #346
    I am slammed at work today and don't know if I will be able to review the thread enough to out in a vote.

    My thought on Rilla is that the last few games the wolves were focused on getting rid of Rilla pretty early. I personally haven't noticed a change in his style (although admittedly I am not the best at that sort of observation).

    I wouldn't be surprised if there were two wolves in the group pushing for his lynch.
  47. #347
    I don't want to come off of Ong, but I have other suspicions too that I might be willing to switch to today. I'm working all day too so can someone post a count?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jyms View Post
    I don't want to come off of Ong, but I have other suspicions too that I might be willing to switch to today. I'm working all day too so can someone post a count?
    I count:

    Rilla & SDM on 3
    Ong on 2
    rong / gator / tlr on 1
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  49. #349
    Oh and I'm always down for a bit of last minute switcheroo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    Oh and I'm always down for a bit of last minute switcheroo
    Wolfiest post ever?
    Last minute chaos is terrible for the village and heaven for wolves
  51. #351
    I'm ill. Glancing through the posts I think rong is a villager, so keith swinging for him worries me.

    rilla wagon building excites me.

    lynch rilla

    More when I don't feel like shit.
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  52. #352
    Quote Originally Posted by jyms View Post
    I don't want to come off of Ong, but I have other suspicions too that I might be willing to switch to today. I'm working all day too so can someone post a count?
    What do you think of SDM?
  53. #353
    lynch rilla

    I await a response from the large primate.
  54. #354
    Also, given the frequency of no shows, mods should reduce the wolf team by one from what they would initially do to counter this.
    Hang on, how does this work? Let's say you're a wolf. Now wuf decides you're not. What are you now, a villager? You just gonna tell us who the wolves are? I'm not quite sure what you're trying to suggest here dan, you're not dumb enough to think a wolf can just become a villager.
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  55. #355
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR View Post
    Wolfiest post ever?
    Last minute chaos is terrible for the village and heaven for wolves
    wrong, as long as we are somewhat on the right track its chaos for everybody
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Hang on, how does this work? Let's say you're a wolf. Now wuf decides you're not. What are you now, a villager? You just gonna tell us who the wolves are? I'm not quite sure what you're trying to suggest here dan, you're not dumb enough to think a wolf can just become a villager.
    Yeah, you can't just take a wolf away, but the point is valid in that the game becomes imbalanced if you modkill enough villagers without replacing them.
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  57. #357
    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH View Post
    I am slammed at work today and don't know if I will be able to review the thread enough to out in a vote.

    My thought on Rilla is that the last few games the wolves were focused on getting rid of Rilla pretty early. I personally haven't noticed a change in his style (although admittedly I am not the best at that sort of observation).

    I wouldn't be surprised if there were two wolves in the group pushing for his lynch.
    Gator you don't have a vote on anyone right now. If you're not happy with a rilla lynch, who would you propose as a counter wagon?
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  58. #358
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy View Post
    What do you think of SDM?
    I'm stil thinking Ong is 90%
    SDM is 65%
    Rilla is 50%
    and I have a couple suspicions.
  59. #359
    I was able to look things over between meetings and prefer a lynch TLR way ahead of rilla. My secondary choices would actually be Luco and BID. Gizmo has some puzzling posts as well but there is enough content there for me to give him a pass for now.

    I also agree that if Courtie doesn't show up soon we will need to lynch her tomorrow to avoid a second modkill. That, of course, may change if we bink a wolf today.
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  60. #360
    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH View Post
    I was able to look things over between meetings and prefer a lynch TLR way ahead of rilla. My secondary choices would actually be Luco and BID. Gizmo has some puzzling posts as well but there is enough content there for me to give him a pass for now.

    I also agree that if Courtie doesn't show up soon we will need to lynch her tomorrow to avoid a second modkill. That, of course, may change if we bink a wolf today.
    Interesting. What are your thoughts on Jv?
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  61. #361
    I'm stil thinking Ong is 90%
    You've been rigid on this since the game started. How often do you moan at me for d1 soulreads? You're a wolf, you're not this static when you're a villager. You're trying too hard to maintain consistency.
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  62. #362
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    You've been rigid on this since the game started. How often do you moan at me for d1 soulreads? You're a wolf, you're not this static when you're a villager. You're trying too hard to maintain consistency.
    Trying too hard? I'm not trying hardly at all? I am doing what I can on my phone but I really ain't trying that hard yet. I am going pretty much on feels.
  63. #363
    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    Interesting. What are your thoughts on Jv?
    i have jv in the same category as Rilla. Don't have a strong read on him yet but nothing glaring jumps out at me.
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  64. #364
    rescind rilla

    I don't want his wagon to get too big before he gets a chance to respond. Not a lot of time left at this point.
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    If rilla flips village, is this hoopy wolf trying to build village cred?
  66. #366
    I don't like waiting for people to respond. IT's been almost 3 days since the last lynch. There has been lots of time to respond. If it was a fast lynch sure, but time is ticking down.
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    I agree. This last minute "let's give them a chance" is bull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jyms View Post
    I don't like waiting for people to respond. IT's been almost 3 days since the last lynch. There has been lots of time to respond. If it was a fast lynch sure, but time is ticking down.
    that is an interesting response from you. I would agree if his bandwagon took off 2 days ago, but it didn't. I took off within the last 3-5 hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew View Post
    I agree. This last minute "let's give them a chance" is bull.
    So you think fast bandwagons at the end of the day are ok?
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  70. #370
    Wow, Rilla's wagon took off fast! All of my earlier arguments are still valid, so I'm happy to switch back my vote. Plus, he hasn't really defended himself. Or really shown up much. And even stranger -- he didn't cast a single vote on Day 1, and he still hasn't voted yet on day 2.

    lynch rilla

    If my count is right, that puts him at 5.
  71. #371
    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH View Post
    that is an interesting response from you. I would agree if his bandwagon took off 2 days ago, but it didn't. I took off within the last 3-5 hours.
    Well let's look at it reasonably. What is someone supposed to do to defend themselves? Come in here and read the same things we all read and point out someone else? Is he supposed to defend against the "feelings" someone has that he is a wolf by making walls of text again, stating things about hte stuff we have all read. You can't defend in this game by simply showing up and posting. It's not rilla that can change our minds unless we are only picking on him because he's not here.

    That said, I ain't on Rilla, I think he's about 50/50 like a few others, and that is only because I think he's a smart enough cookie to be a wolf and look villagery. Chances are if we think he's a wolf for some reason it's because he's not and he isn't trying to fool us. IT's probably why I always seem wolfy to people. I don't try to trick people. I don't hide and I don't try to defend. Just my two cents.
  72. #372
    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH View Post
    that is an interesting response from you. I would agree if his bandwagon took off 2 days ago, but it didn't. I took off within the last 3-5 hours.
    I think jyms' point is valid. Rilla had almost 3 days to be more active. It would be different if it was someone more active. Regardless, there are still several votes to go before the day ends from a majority, so he has time to show up.
  73. #373
    Quote Originally Posted by jyms View Post
    Trying too hard? I'm not trying hardly at all? I am doing what I can on my phone but I really ain't trying that hard yet. I am going pretty much on feels.
    Maybe you're trying harder in the den than you're letting on know here. Nice deflection though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH View Post
    So you think fast bandwagons at the end of the day are ok?
    NG and jyms provided excellent reasons why not waiting for rilla is a good thing.
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    Whelp. Looks like I'm top wagon.

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