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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    i feel pretty strong about this read and my boog read. those reads give 4 cleared villagers, plus me and my partner, which gives us a lock to win. i have the solution, its just a matter of how late in the day we out
    to add to this POE math i think ong and gator are unlikely wolves together

    but i guess that doesnt matter too much since 1 wolf kill = we win. it does kinda matter though as far as wolf combos
  2. #77
    I'm might be inclined to think gabe is a villager now. The only reason I can think for gabe wolf to say I'm not a wolf with gator is if gabe is a wolf with gator. But that's not the case with gator's early vote. Village cred for lynching a wolf buddy is worth exactly fuck all in this game.

    I'm not sure where gabe is coming from though. I'm not a wolf with gator, but I'm failing to see how he's figured this out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I'm not a wolf with gator, but I'm failing to see how he's figured this out.
    because it would be crazy and necessary for wolfong and wolfgator to attack villagegabe. boog did also but in a way that i dont believe he would do as a wolf. however both of you are in your wolfing range
  4. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by lilrascal View Post
    Actually, we can afford one mislynch and still win. But I hope you're right that it is a one lynch game because that would mean we got the wolves on D1 for the win.
    Ah yeah good point, missed where JKDS said no nk.
  5. #80
    Hoopy that fence isn't gonna take your fat ass much longer.

    Any thoughts on actual people rather than mechanics?
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  6. #81
    no action. missing bawd already
  7. #82
    lol i didnt realize rilla was in. let's get this over with so that there isnt much of a wolf thread to not read post-game

    rilla
  8. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH View Post
    Why not? I could see the wolves buss once as it doesn't matter if one of them links to the others by viewing the buss riders. Once we find the first one the game is over.
    If the wolves bus a fellow wolf they lose the game.
  9. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH View Post
    In before you say "and Gator's post totally screams wolf, I'm positive of it".
  10. #85
    the wolves should bus a wolf therefore win the game for village therefore become honorary wufs
  11. #86
    wtf where's mmm? last game was like the only time we weren't at each other's throats

    in other news DA HOOPMAN IS BAAAAAAAAAACK. now's his chance to live up to his reputation by bolding a wolf correctly on his first try, getting him lynched, therefore killing four wolves in one bold
  12. #87
    wuf, rilla's enthusiasm is what determines his alignment, not how late he joins the game. I have him as exactly null.
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  13. #88
    scratch that, im the new hoopman. since rilla is my first bold and he's a wolf for sure
  14. #89
    wuf feels awkward.
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  15. #90
    I mean wuf is dicking about with lulz and a vote for someone who hasn't posted on what must be the most critical d1 in FTR ww history.
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  16. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I mean wuf is dicking about with lulz and a vote for someone who hasn't posted on what must be the most critical d1 in FTR ww history.
    remember i already said i know how we win >80%. i just cant say why yet
  17. #92
    So are you voting for rilla because it's a random probability and thus +ev?
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  18. #93
    im voting for rilla because votes have to be made to make something of the day. it would be awful to get near eod and not have enough info to blow this thing wide open
  19. #94
    Do you not think it would be better to vote someone who is wolfy, rather than someone who is exactly random probability? Or do you think rilla's late arrival is wolfy?
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  20. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Hoopy that fence isn't gonna take your fat ass much longer.

    Any thoughts on actual people rather than mechanics?
    Bitch I'm curvy not fat!

    I think SMF is a villager based on his white text shenanigans. A wolf wouldn't be so against the grain and deceptive in a way that gets attention. Particularly with the wolves having no margin for error.

    You seem like a villager.

    I want to know why aubrey is so sure gabe is villa.
  21. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    wtf where's mmm? last game was like the only time we weren't at each other's throats

    in other news DA HOOPMAN IS BAAAAAAAAAACK. now's his chance to live up to his reputation by bolding a wolf correctly on his first try, getting him lynched, therefore killing four wolves in one bold
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  22. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Do you not think it would be better to vote someone who is wolfy, rather than someone who is exactly random probability? Or do you think rilla's late arrival is wolfy?
    well given that you're the next wolfiest person on my list

    rilla and ong for wolves. bank it
  23. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew View Post
    Does info not trump no info?
    I get the feeling wolves can use the info better than villagers at the start.
  24. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy View Post

    I want to know why aubrey is so sure gabe is villa.
    I said it depends on my particular read of someone, and I don't want to divulge anymore than that. And that's on top of the fact that I found his post in which he explains why SMF is villager based on white text to be convincing. The logic was pro-village and the tone of the whole thing gave me a strong village soulread.


    It's interesting to me that when pushed to make an assessment of someone rather than talk about game mechanics, you posted virtually zero original thought and parroted what Gabe said about SMF.
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  25. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    well given that you're the next wolfiest person on my list

    rilla and ong for wolves. bank it
    explain
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  26. #101
    [QUOTE=aubreymcfate;2252365]I said it depends on my particular read of someone, and I don't want to divulge anymore than that. And that's on top of the fact that I found his post in which he explains why SMF is villager based on white text to be convincing. The logic was pro-village and the tone of the whole thing gave me a strong village soulread.

    i'm rescinding this statement, reread make me realize i totally missed something crucial. so im no longer as sure about gabe, but i still feel pretty good about him being villager.
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  27. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy View Post
    I get the feeling wolves can use the info better than villagers at the start.
    I think the reason we should not out our buddies is because when people realise they are reading a couple as wolf/villa, they have to reassess one way or the other, and the sincerity of that reassessment can help us to read people.
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  28. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by aubreymcfate View Post
    I said it depends on my particular read of someone, and I don't want to divulge anymore than that. And that's on top of the fact that I found his post in which he explains why SMF is villager based on white text to be convincing. The logic was pro-village and the tone of the whole thing gave me a strong village soulread.


    It's interesting to me that when pushed to make an assessment of someone rather than talk about game mechanics, you posted virtually zero original thought and parroted what Gabe said about SMF.
    I don't understand why you won't divulge it.

    Reading back, what gabe said about SMF is true, but I hadn't really read gabe's posts at that point. I've been skimming most of today.
  29. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by aubreymcfate View Post
    I said it depends on my particular read of someone, and I don't want to divulge anymore than that. And that's on top of the fact that I found his post in which he explains why SMF is villager based on white text to be convincing. The logic was pro-village and the tone of the whole thing gave me a strong village soulread.

    i'm rescinding this statement, reread make me realize i totally missed something crucial. so im no longer as sure about gabe, but i still feel pretty good about him being villager.
    Missed this before I posted, fair enough I won't go on about it.
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I think the reason we should not out our buddies is because when people realise they are reading a couple as wolf/villa, they have to reassess one way or the other, and the sincerity of that reassessment can help us to read people.
    Exactly, this is what I wanted to point out.
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    {Wufwugy BID Lilrascal Keith Gabe Ongbonga Rilla Hoopy Boog Supermonkeyface aubrey Gator}
    {BID Lilrascal Keith Gabe Ongbonga Rilla= Hoopy Boog Supermonkeyface aubrey Gator}
    {BID Keith Gabe Ongbonga Rilla Hoopy Boog Supermonkeyface aubrey Gator}
    {BID Keith Ongbonga Rilla Hoopy Boog Supermonkeyface aubrey Gator}
    {BID Keith Rilla Hoopy Boog Supermonkeyface aubrey Gator}
    {BID Keith Hoopy Boog Supermonkeyface aubrey Gator}
    {BID Keith Boog Supermonkeyface aubrey Gator}
    {BID Keith Boog Supermonkeyface Gator}
    {BID Keith Boog Supermonkeyface}


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  31. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by aubreymcfate View Post
    explain
    meh i have next to no read. i rarely, if ever, think anybody is legit wolfy this early

    if this was ong of three years ago, he would be major wolf right now though. all signs have suggested he's evolved though
  32. #107
    people need to start bolding
  33. #108
    Yup, agree with wuf. Time to get bolding.

    lynch monkey
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  34. #109
    lynch keith

    could also do: rilla hoopy gator

    i realize keith is the most arbitrary of my lynches but he's the purest soulread of the bunch for me
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  35. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I think the reason we should not out our buddies is because when people realise they are reading a couple as wolf/villa, they have to reassess one way or the other, and the sincerity of that reassessment can help us to read people.
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Yup, agree with wuf. Time to get bolding.

    lynch monkey
    I don't like this action from Ong. If the point of no revealing buddies is to spot the differing responses to wolf villager pairs. why now attempt to force through lynches.it looks opportunistic to me.Ongs argument also seems to want to concentrate on pairs where there could be wolf or villager and could result in the flip going in the villages or wolves favour. The easy way to lock a win for the village is if the known pairs give two other pairs that are villager/villager. Including our known villager partners to give 6 villagers ,wolves cannot win.
  36. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy View Post
    If the wolves bus a fellow wolf they lose the game.
    Yeah, I realized I was confusing bussing with jumping on a train. My bad.
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  37. #112
    keith that doesn't even make any sense. I say why I think we should try not to out or partners, and then later vote for someone I have previously stated is someone I consider wolfy. What exactly is your problem with that chain of events? Why use phrases like "force through lynches" when I have literally started the wagon? What is forceful about a vote?

    keith is trying a bit too hard here. I wish that was a wolf tell for him, sadly he always tries too hard.
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  38. #113
    I reckon rilla bingoed it.
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  39. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    lol i didnt realize rilla was in. let's get this over with so that there isnt much of a wolf thread to not read post-game

    rilla
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    wtf where's mmm? last game was like the only time we weren't at each other's throats

    in other news DA HOOPMAN IS BAAAAAAAAAACK. now's his chance to live up to his reputation by bolding a wolf correctly on his first try, getting him lynched, therefore killing four wolves in one bold
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    scratch that, im the new hoopman. since rilla is my first bold and he's a wolf for sure
    Lynch Wuf

    This vote for a non poster and follow on posts just make no sense.
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    I'm still lynching Gabe here.

    Lynch Gabe
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  41. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by BooG690 View Post
    I'm still lynching Gabe here.

    Lynch Gabe
    I'm not against that, and I think Wuf/gabe wagons would be great.
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    I'm reading ong as villagery for tone reasons
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilrascal View Post
    Lynch Wuf

    This vote for a non poster and follow on posts just make no sense.
    I agree with this.

    It's super lazy to be bolding players this early when they haven't yet been active. It feels opprtunistic.
  44. #119
    if this was a game of logic, keith rascal and bid would be wolves

    the last thing my rilla bold is is wolfy. the first thing you guys are for not seeing why it's not wolfy is wolfy.

    ive got all three of rilla bid rascal wolves at like 10%. pretty damn high for all three imo
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    Wuf getting all defensive up in heauh.
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  46. #121
    boog is pronounced booj in case you didnt know
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    I always pronounced boog as "bee-u-guh"
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    htf do you get beeuguh from booj
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  50. #125
    Why is it every time I see someone say the word "opportunistic", I feel people are being opportunistic?

    Anyway, I've changed my mind.

    lynch boog
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  51. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    htf do you get beeuguh from booj
    How do you get booj from boog? Are you French or something? Do you pronounce your g's like a ponce?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I'm might be inclined to think gabe is a villager now. The only reason I can think for gabe wolf to say I'm not a wolf with gator is if gabe is a wolf with gator. But that's not the case with gator's early vote. Village cred for lynching a wolf buddy is worth exactly fuck all in this game.

    I'm not sure where gabe is coming from though. I'm not a wolf with gator, but I'm failing to see how he's figured this out.
    Ah, does that bold stem from this impeccable logic? Or do you just hate it when you see consistency in thought? Or maybe you just scurred a soul read Gabe?
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  53. #128
    It stems from me thinking you're a wolf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    It stems from me thinking you're a wolf.
    Any additional comments to that or would you like to end your argument here?
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  55. #130
    Well if you want to know what I'm thinking, I get the distinct impression you're not trying to figure anything out. I don't once see you say about a comment "this looks villagery" or words to the effect. All you've done so far is point figures and mock. You thought gabe was a wolf after one post. Is that it? Your work for the day is done?

    Not that I need to justify my vote. I can vote for you simply for pronouncing a g like a j if I want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Well if you want to know what I'm thinking, I get the distinct impression you're not trying to figure anything out. I don't once see you say about a comment "this looks villagery" or words to the effect. All you've done so far is point figures and mock. You thought gabe was a wolf after one post. Is that it? Your work for the day is done?

    Not that I need to justify my vote. I can vote for you simply for pronouncing a g like a j if I want.
    There we are. I feel better with a little bit of explanation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Well if you want to know what I'm thinking, I get the distinct impression you're not trying to figure anything out. I don't once see you say about a comment "this looks villagery" or words to the effect. All you've done so far is point figures and mock. You thought gabe was a wolf after one post. Is that it? Your work for the day is done?

    Not that I need to justify my vote. I can vote for you simply for pronouncing a g like a j if I want.
    FWIW, you took quite the while to formulate that argument. I reckon den involvement. I'm not hating you and Gabe on a wolf team here.
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  58. #133
    Yeah because you know how I need input from other wolves to cobble together an explanation for my read.

    So, rather than being able to think for myself, I'm talking shit through with... who exactly? Noone has posted between my vote and my explanation. It's the quiet time. You're reaching here boog.

    I can't say I'm unhappy with my vote.
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  59. #134
    Boog definitely looks wolfier than ever now, and I'm also less sure about wuf. Boog, your gabe lynch given everything that's developed since yesterday seems a forced attempt at "consistency in thought"

    we need to collectively pile on someone to raise the heat and see what happens
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    Quote Originally Posted by aubreymcfate View Post
    Boog definitely looks wolfier than ever now, and I'm also less sure about wuf. Boog, your gabe lynch given everything that's developed since yesterday seems a forced attempt at "consistency in thought"

    we need to collectively pile on someone to raise the heat and see what happens
    Did I miss something here?
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    i'm pretty sure i know who the wolves are
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    unless my read on a particular person is off, gabe is for sure village
    Oh wait, I missed this magical post. How'd I miss this?
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  61. #136
    things change. what's your point?
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    Gabe looks like a pressure point here. Pushed a bit and in come Ong (and now Aubrey) to defend. Still not hating this Gabe bold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aubreymcfate View Post
    things change. what's your point?
    What's changed? Is Gabe no longer for sure village?

    Also, what has developed yesterday that should change my views on Gabe?
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  64. #139
    I'm not saying you shouldn't have lynched Gabe, but you did so seemingly based on your original comment on his first post.. given everything that developed you'd think you might have more to say if you're going to still lynch someone on an entirely new page of the thread. that's why i felt it was forced.


    what changed is that the thing about my read of a particular person was me typing shit prematurely bc i made a huge error in something i read in the thread, sometimes i do things too fast and mess up, so that was my bad. I still think he's leaning village based on his other posts.
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    Also, this game is really, really difficult for wolves because it forces hard defending. Wolves can't get away with letting any wolves die so you just find out a cluster of wolves hard defending each other and there it is.
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  66. #141
    Wait, boog thinks wolves will hard defend each other, yet I put heat on gabe early on when others were saying he was wolfy.

    What was that you said about consistency boog?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Wut?

    One, I have drew and his partner monkey as wolfy.

    Two, drew defended you against boog's attack.

    Are you trying to muddy the waters here gabe? Are you hoping people don't remember who is pointing the finger at who?

    Swing again.
    LOL this? THIS is your heat? Nah, this ain't Ong heat. I've seen Ong heat.
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    It's funny that you referenced that soft post so quickly as a point where you "put heat" on Gabe. Plant that post there for that purpose, Ong?
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  69. #144
    Lynch wuf

    I have a villager read on Aubrey and I initially thought the two of them were a pair.. But Aubrey just posted a slight iffy read on wuf.. So therefore I don't have a reason to withhold this read anymore
  70. #145
    I think ong is villagery on tone but because of last game I'm literally never hard clearing him again.

    Aside from tone.. I'd lynch him.. I'm having trouble tying him to anyone else in this game and I think that's actually a problem.
  71. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by BooG690 View Post
    It's funny that you referenced that soft post so quickly as a point where you "put heat" on Gabe. Plant that post there for that purpose, Ong?
    Yes boog, I wanted it to look good for when gabe flips. Gotta get that distance.
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  72. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace View Post
    I think ong is villagery on tone but because of last game I'm literally never hard clearing him again.

    Aside from tone.. I'd lynch him.. I'm having trouble tying him to anyone else in this game and I think that's actually a problem.
    Um... I'm not sure why it's a problem that I'm not tied to anyone. Surely that's a good thing.
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    Does boog actually think that if I'm a wolf with gabe, I'd throw my weight behind the early pressure he was getting? In this format that he himself acknowledges forces the wolves into hard defending one another? Of course he doesn't.
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    this is rilla's only post and i dont share many of the feelings in it. the two possible explanations are that rilla isnt paying attention or he's a wolf thinking this would fly. both are likely enough but knowing who his partner is (eventually) should make it clear what he is (lazy villager or failwolf). wuf being eliminated first is bizarre. i also appreciated how he didnt eliminate himself for a few lines
    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    {Wufwugy BID Lilrascal Keith Gabe Ongbonga Rilla Hoopy Boog Supermonkeyface aubrey Gator}
    {BID Lilrascal Keith Gabe Ongbonga Rilla= Hoopy Boog Supermonkeyface aubrey Gator}
    {BID Keith Gabe Ongbonga Rilla Hoopy Boog Supermonkeyface aubrey Gator}
    {BID Keith Ongbonga Rilla Hoopy Boog Supermonkeyface aubrey Gator}
    {BID Keith Rilla Hoopy Boog Supermonkeyface aubrey Gator}
    {BID Keith Hoopy Boog Supermonkeyface aubrey Gator}
    {BID Keith Boog Supermonkeyface aubrey Gator}
    {BID Keith Boog Supermonkeyface Gator}
    {BID Keith Boog Supermonkeyface}


    prob
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Does boog actually think that if I'm a wolf with gabe, I'd throw my weight behind the early pressure he was getting? In this format that he himself acknowledges forces the wolves into hard defending one another? Of course he doesn't.
    i know i vouched for him earlier but after this page i find myself rethinking it. he is getting caught in the same wolfy-looking illogical spots he got caught in last game, where we ultimately nailed him for it. the fact he is more active early in this game was the main reason he seemed village but that could be explained by other stuff

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