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    Default Pick Your Poison Game Signup

    I've never modded a game, but I'd like to give it a shot.

    I was looking for something a bit different and came across the Pick Your Poison Setup.

    Pick Your Poison is an Open Game Setup. In it, the Wolves choose three roles out of five before the game begins to be given to the village. Here's the link on Mafia wiki.

    This setup will maybe give the wolves a chance for a win here on FTR since they get to pick the villa PR roles.

    It's designed for 13 players.

    Start when filled.
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    Three vigs or three seers imo.
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    I've played this before, and it can be a lot of fun. Its one of those setups where the mafia have to designate who kills who, and we dont know if a death was the result of a mafia kill or a vig kill. Its neat. I love not being told which roles are in the game too, cuz it allows more squabbling over claims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKDS View Post
    I've played this before, and it can be a lot of fun. Its one of those setups where the mafia have to designate who kills who, and we dont know if a death was the result of a mafia kill or a vig kill. Its neat. I love not being told which roles are in the game too, cuz it allows more squabbling over claims.
    I didn't read the NK that way, but I like it. One thing from the wiki that I'd change to is that wolf chat would be 24 hours rather than just night chat.

    Any other thoughts?
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    Personally, I don't enjoy the breaks between days, for wolves to chat and sort things out, and for specials to submit their submissions. I'd prefer to keep that period as short as possible. 12hrs?
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    the shorter the nights, the worse it is for the village and better for wolves. it's probably a good way to handicap our villages. the previous game may be an example of how it does handicap the village given how much gabe's lynch was a slam dunk yet it almost didn't happen.
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    the way in which it handicaps villages is that villagers need mental reset more than wolves because they're the detectives.
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    I could run it as 1.5 (36 hours) or 2.5 (60 hours) long days and 0.5 (12 hours) nights, depending on how long people want the days to be.
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    My vote would be for 2.5/0.5
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    I don't like 12 hr nights, I think wolves should have 24 hrs to ensure that time zones and tight IRL schedules aren't problems that seep into the game. If a wolf is incapable of getting into the den in a 24 hour period, tough shit. But 12 hrs is tight, even I can be afk for more than that long.
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    mod's call though, obviously. That's just my two cents.
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    in!....and i agree...12 hours is rough...24 would be much better
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    So if there is a vig we dont know who was a vig kill and who was a wolf kill?...also size of wolf teams? 3? ...and are we using the roles on the mafia page?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilrascal View Post
    I didn't read the NK that way, but I like it. One thing from the wiki that I'd change to is that wolf chat would be 24 hours rather than just night chat.

    Any other thoughts?
    Ya, the tracker role and jailkeeper role both utilize this change in NK. So the tracker might see that BID killed JKDS, and the tracker then has to play a guessing game of whether BID is a vig or wolf. The jailkeeper can likewise prevent the NK entirely if he gets lucky and picks the wolf that was gonna do it.

    But ya, I like keeping 24/7 wolf chat. Thats an FTR tradition! Gotta have that!

    I think theres a page on MS somewhere that talks about order of operations for trackers/jailers/cops/etc, and also covers their interactions. Like, what result does a Cop get when the Jailkeeper blocks him? Or the result when the vig and mafia shoot each other. Idk where it is tho
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    I'll wait and see what the consensus is on day/night lengths.

    I'm looking to run the game as described on the wiki with the following exceptions (subject to change):
    - Flavor is changed from mafia to werewolf, because this is a werewolf site, not that mafia ****.
    - Wolves will have 24 hour chat rather than just night chat.

    Also, no flavor to be provided on night kills as to whether or not it's a wolf NK or village vig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKDS View Post
    Ya, the tracker role and jailkeeper role both utilize this change in NK. So the tracker might see that BID killed JKDS, and the tracker then has to play a guessing game of whether BID is a vig or wolf. The jailkeeper can likewise prevent the NK entirely if he gets lucky and picks the wolf that was gonna do it.

    But ya, I like keeping 24/7 wolf chat. Thats an FTR tradition! Gotta have that!

    I think theres a page on MS somewhere that talks about order of operations for trackers/jailers/cops/etc, and also covers their interactions. Like, what result does a Cop get when the Jailkeeper blocks him? Or the result when the vig and mafia shoot each other. Idk where it is tho
    I'll need to go look at the order of operations so I don't mess that up. I'll get it nailed down before the game starts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics View Post
    So if there is a vig we dont know who was a vig kill and who was a wolf kill?...also size of wolf teams? 3? ...and are we using the roles on the mafia page?
    Ya, 3 wolves, and then those wolves choose 3 unique specials from that list to give to the village.

    For the kill stuff.....you might start day 2 with something like this.

    Day 2 starts

    The Village of Philly
    JKDS
    Philly
    Rascal
    Rilla
    Wuf

    Ong, lynched day 1
    BID, killed night 1
    Luco, Killed night 1

    3 Specials left
    2 wolves left


    --------------------

    Then you gotta determine who was killed by who. In this example, its pretty clear that Luco was killed by a vigilante, since luco was a wolf. But if he was a villager, then we wouldnt know who killed who and would have to figure it out.
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    OH SHIT PHILLY'S BACK

    we were soooooooooooo gonna win that game we got wolf together, but bikes had to up and screw up the PMs
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilrascal View Post
    I'll need to go look at the order of operations so I don't mess that up. I'll get it nailed down before the game starts.
    I found a thing!

    http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?...ion_Resolution

    Seems like they have some wiggle room in how its 'typically' done, so as long as the order doesnt change mid game you'll be fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKDS View Post
    I found a thing!

    http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?...ion_Resolution

    Seems like they have some wiggle room in how its 'typically' done, so as long as the order doesnt change mid game you'll be fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    OH SHIT PHILLY'S BACK

    we were soooooooooooo gonna win that game we got wolf together, but bikes had to up and screw up the PMs
    i still kick myself for the game that you were seer and i was angel....you came out on day 1 or something and i protected JV instead of you and got the deflection....i figured i would for sure fly under the radar but got unlucky having 2 people who were just wolves with me as wolves this game and knew that was my M.O. We were so close =(.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKDS View Post
    Ya, 3 wolves, and then those wolves choose 3 unique specials from that list to give to the village.

    For the kill stuff.....you might start day 2 with something like this.

    Day 2 starts

    The Village of Philly
    JKDS
    Philly
    Rascal
    Rilla
    Wuf

    Ong, lynched day 1
    BID, killed night 1
    Luco, Killed night 1

    3 Specials left
    2 wolves left


    --------------------

    Then you gotta determine who was killed by who. In this example, its pretty clear that Luco was killed by a vigilante, since luco was a wolf. But if he was a villager, then we wouldnt know who killed who and would have to figure it out.
    thank you sir.
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    PHILLY!!!!!

    ALSO IN!
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    Will probably in
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    Aw thanks guys...4 more legggooo

    Rascal did you pm the peeps on the "pm me" list?
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    Quote Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics View Post
    Aw thanks guys...4 more legggooo

    Rascal did you pm the peeps on the "pm me" list?
    No, I don't know about any "pm me" list.
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    The sticky that says "wanna play but never sure when it starts" or something like that...I just looked and it's probably pretty dated and a lot of the players are already signed up so probably nvm
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    philly is so 2010
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    It's true...in my world Donald trump is still an annoying reality TV figure and Bruce Jenner is a male and Kylie jenner is thirteen
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    You scared 'em off, philly. Why you gotta be like that?
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    4 more. Come on, let's make this happen.
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    Looks like we gotta cool off for a bit.

    I'm thinking a game that starts on Black Friday would be perfect.
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    Lol again, rilla with the recomended WW break

    I say start when we have the desired number. If it's tomorrow, so be it. If it's December, so be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    You scared 'em off, philly. Why you gotta be like that?
    its like high school all over again


    What about all the non-FTR'ers that have been playing recently?
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    welcome back Philly


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    ill play. the village is definitely going to win
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    ill play. the village is definitely going to win
    It's true.

    I think I figured out why wolves never win.

    Because if gabe is a villager, wolves have no chance. And if gabe is a wolf, wolves have no chance.
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    haha gabe has one bad wolf game and I'm mocking him like he's the new rilla.
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    Oh man I miss baudib so much. I hope he plays this game.

    He's such a nice guy to be around. So happy and charming all of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    It's true.

    I think I figured out why wolves never win.

    Because if gabe is a villager, wolves have no chance. And if gabe is a wolf, wolves have no chance.
    Heh, nicely played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BooG690 View Post
    Heh, nicely played.
    that was my joke......


    even in my 2 "recent" wolf wins everyone knew i was a wolf
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    Yeah it's a bitch getting gabe lynched. I had to go full ong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    that was my joke......
    Lynch gabe
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    aww boog cmon man i know youre a villager so dont vote for meeeeee ;p
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    Can I have a space between my number and name please like everyone else? It's upsetting my balance.
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    Seriously. WTF Rascal? Why all the hate for Ong?
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    ....i really am from 2010
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    It's not Ong hate, it's paying tribute to his GOAT performance from the last game.

    That, or I just messed up when I made the post.
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    If we can't fill the last 2 spots, then I could run an 11er with the following:

    3 mafia
    4 cops (1 sane, 1 insane, 1 naïve, 1 paranoid)
    4 vanilla townies


    Thoughts???

    Run as an 11er or wait for 13?
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    wait for 13
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    wait for 13
    This
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    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew View Post
    13
    Or this


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    13
    Or this. I am fine with any of those three.
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    I heard we're ong-bashin' ITT.

    lol
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    hehe

    That guy, amirit?!

    lol
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    ong bashing is so 2010

    and 2011

    2012

    2013 too

    2014 come to think of it

    and 2015
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    When I see my avatar, I think of keith. When everyone else sees my avatar, they see domestic violence glorifed. I feel bad, yet still amused. Funny wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    When I see my avatar, I think of keith. When everyone else sees my avatar, they see domestic violence glorifed. I feel bad, yet still amused. Funny wins.
    I don't see what's domestic about it.

    It's just a chick with short head hair and long arm hair punching ong in the face.
    Also ong has man-boobs.
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    so clooooooooooose...also props to boog for generously volunteering to take one for the team
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    lol she does kinda look like ong
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    The hair could be mine. That's about the limit of any resemblance. I don't have a particularly feminine face.

    Oh, I do have a somewhat long, scrawny neck, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics View Post
    so clooooooooooose...also props to boog for generously volunteering to take one for the team
    I did what now?
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    ur gonna blow some people or summat

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