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  1. #1201
    The only reason we know rascal is not protected n2 is because we expect luco to draw the save after his claim. If rascal dies in the night and flips seer, luco is certainly going to be in the "must die" pool and our chances are zero. Once luco claimed, we were all in. Had he not claimed, well rilla still prob doesn't cover rascal but he might. An unclaimed luco with a dead seer would have given us a little bit of hope. But still not much, and that would be boring.

    This was much more fun.
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  2. #1202
    I was in a no-reveal game (no roles/affiliation given after deaths) that had a parity seer. That is, on night 0 the seer submits a name. It gets no result. The next night, the seer submits a second name, and it gets "same affiliation" (as the previous night) or "Different."

    I was a wolf and my wolfbros were horrendous, I did find the seer on N1 though and we had another wolf fake claim seer with a wolf peek on a villager. I really debated nomming the wolf there to try to get that villager killed, but didn't. Would have been great just for the lols.
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    Luco, that fake claim though. Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.
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    Anyway I'd like to thank dhubs for the game. Yes it was town sided, but that's ok, and balancing games is no easy task. You can see why it was town sided, so you can make logical adjustments in future games.

    Options for improving this format...

    1. give the wolves powers to counter the town. A roleblocker is the first thing that comes to mind, but there's also godfather (seer immune wolf), or a strongman kill (a use once night kill that angel can't stop), amongst others. The godfather one is generally disliked and I understand why, because it's kind of dishonest. But the roleblocker is a solid option and gives the wolves strategic options for dealing with a power heavy town.

    2. limit the seer and/or vig to odd or even nights.

    3. have no vig at all (one less special to confirm).

    4. a bulletproof wolf (must be lynched).

    5. A couple more vanilla townies.

    Still, I really do think if a game is unbalanced, it's better to be town heavy. I'd rather have a tough wolf win than an easy wolf win because ego. As a villager, well the easier the better because I'm lazy!
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  6. #1206
    Quote Originally Posted by BooG690 View Post
    Luco, that fake claim though. Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.
    Thanks boog, that means a lot actually
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    I've already said it in the den, but thanks again for modding dhuber. Great job

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  8. #1208
    Another option is to have a gunsmith instead of a seer, which flags up the vig as guilty as well as the wolves. That makes life a little more awkward for the town when it comes to claiming.
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  9. #1209
    I do think that the format is a bit unbalanced but there will be plenty of iterations of this format where the wolves win. Wolves ran into sick bad variance here. Killing Rilla N1 over Gabe was a great move, if Rilla is the seer and not angel they probably win this -- Rilla played GREAT and would have been a huge loss.

    on POG, angel is a role that is rarely if ever used in vanillas or vanilla+ games, they are standard in larger mishmashes though (for both sides). A vanilla 13er features 3 wolves and 1 seer and usually no other specials, and this is considered a tough game for the village to win. (Wolf win% is probably around 55%). Giving the wolves a PR would probably balance it or leave out the angel.
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  10. #1210
    Yeah I think if I were dhubs looking to repeat this format, a wolf roleblocker would be sufficient, and I think that balance will be within acceptable parameters even if you add another two or three vanilla townies, allowing flexibility in game size.
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  11. #1211
    and on paper I do think that a wolf team of Ong-Wuf-Luco looks pretty damn good.

    The village played exceptionally well though, especially in clearing themselves and each other.

    I was away for the weekend degenning in AC or I would have really been troubled because I couldn't figure out a wolf team without Wuf/Ong that made sense because I thought there was at most 1 wolf in Rong/Boog/Luco. I kept wanting to call Boog a villager and kept coming back to him as a wolf suspect because I was never lynching Gabe/Rilla/Rascal.
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  12. #1212
    I think without the numbers to lock it our gambit could have paid off, but at the same time we would never have even considered something that nutty if things weren't so hard against us, so chicken and egg there.

    And I don't think imbalance takes away one iota of village credit here, you guys brought your A game and thoroughly deserved this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    I do think that the format is a bit unbalanced but there will be plenty of iterations of this format where the wolves win. Wolves ran into sick bad variance here. Killing Rilla N1 over Gabe was a great move, if Rilla is the seer and not angel they probably win this -- Rilla played GREAT and would have been a huge loss.

    on POG, angel is a role that is rarely if ever used in vanillas or vanilla+ games, they are standard in larger mishmashes though (for both sides). A vanilla 13er features 3 wolves and 1 seer and usually no other specials, and this is considered a tough game for the village to win. (Wolf win% is probably around 55%). Giving the wolves a PR would probably balance it or leave out the angel.
    I agree, the wolves still win this format a decent amount of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    And I don't think imbalance takes away one iota of village credit here, you guys brought your A game and thoroughly deserved this one.
    Yeah this 100%.

    Also there's only one wolf that really brought his village game to the game thread, and that was luco. Me and wuf were awful in terms of our game play.

    I'm just glad we made a game to remember out of it in the end.
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    I'm modding the next one!
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    Thanks for the kind feedback and especially to the Wolves for remaining true to their roles even in the face of impossible odds due to the reveal. I'm looking forward to playing in the next match.
  17. #1217
    Nice game everyone.

    Possibly needs a few tweaks to balance the format but overall very fun to play.
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    I had a hearty laugh when Ong outed as Gator. Comedic genius, that Ong.
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    This isn't the first time ong has been an outed wolf waiting to die is it?
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    No it's a familiar feeling for me, trolling as an outed wolf.
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    What a game! Dat village!

    Dat wolf gambit in pseudo-confirming Luco as V!

    Baud and rilla as basically conf. V on D1 was super strong for the village. Those 2 were epic at clearing themselves early and congealing a team.


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    thanks for modding dhuber. i love werewolf.

    i think im going to enjoy rereading this game since we crushed so hard. we were massive favorites ever since like the 15th post in the thread. the game was over at a point where we hadnt even killed a wolf yet


    triple fake claim...nice try wolves.

    luco in den "I'm also taking solace in the fact that even the real seer thought I was villager faking not wolf faking"

    that is a pretty unique thing. dont think we've seen a fake claim ever be so widely believed in such a way. rong's response to it ("did dhuber send wrong PM???" lol) was VERY good and villagery which tipped me off
  23. #1223
    Rongs reaction was great, try to imagine it from my seat. You were very quick off the mark gabe. Also,

    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    I'm liking gabe for villager already. Rilla too. I'm unconcerned with rascals posts so far.
    I posted this before reading my role pm, my read on you and Rilla wasn't fake
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    Quote Originally Posted by WolfDenWugy
    part of me would like to nom __________ just so i dont have to look at him anymore. he's possibly the smartest person on the whole damn board, but has no humility or introspection.

    I remember feeling that way about you, not too long ago at all.


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    This game frustrated me a lot. I was more into this game than any I've played in a long time, but life and alcohol pulled me away and trying to catch up e days of posts is such am effort.

    Looking forward to rilla being a wolf. I wanna see if he's figured out to fake himself yet.
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  26. #1226
    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    thanks for modding dhuber. i love werewolf.

    i think im going to enjoy rereading this game since we crushed so hard. we were massive favorites ever since like the 15th post in the thread. the game was over at a point where we hadnt even killed a wolf yet


    triple fake claim...nice try wolves.

    luco in den "I'm also taking solace in the fact that even the real seer thought I was villager faking not wolf faking"

    that is a pretty unique thing. dont think we've seen a fake claim ever be so widely believed in such a way. rong's response to it ("did dhuber send wrong PM???" lol) was VERY good and villagery which tipped me off
    Game is largely won on D1 and the weird thing is the village had an objectively awful day...lynching JKDS and vigging BID and forcing Hoopy to claim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    Subtracting myself from equation (1.00 villager)

    Random player is 27.3% to be a wolf

    Wolf equity
    Ong 47%
    Wufwugy 44%
    Hoopy 35%
    Luco 35%
    Boog 31%
    JKDS 28%
    Bid 27%
    Rong 22%
    Rascal 15%
    Gabe 11%
    Rilla 5%
    not bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    This game frustrated me a lot. I was more into this game than any I've played in a long time, but life and alcohol pulled me away and trying to catch up e days of posts is such am effort.

    Looking forward to rilla being a wolf. I wanna see if he's figured out to fake himself yet.
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    I had great fun guys, and we did put forward a total village game this time. Way to be, lads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    Look back when this is over and find out who bothered to use the first 60 posts or so to try to clear themselves and clear others, as opposed to those who were trolling, laid slank cover and/or had nothing useful to say.
    this was kind of a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WolfDenWugy
    lol that's gonna go over well. "hey guise, remember how i berated everybody into killing my lookup? yeah i was just fucking around. each and every one of ur mom"
    Bwaaaahahahahaha!

    Many laughs in the wolf den, but that one stood out.

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    i hope somebody's railing this, because it's gotta be one of the better games for that.
    It was amazing. Many thanks to all.

    I was fighting the urge to randomly post "dat village" into the thread. Obv., I would never do that, but dayum.
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    I really want to read the whole den thread at some point.

    Ong did not post well but he is the creative genius behind any wolf team he's on and Wuf did a great job at specials hunting.

    I think the next game we play should be a true vanilla with just a seer or we really try hard to get 17 people and have more roles and stuff (for wolves too).
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  35. #1235
    Thanks for modding Dhubs.

    Congrats to the village, you guys were solidly in your v-ranges, and I think this is the toughest village to play against in a long time.

    Nice try Luco. It was never meant to be. You're killer at looking village when not. That makes total sense, though, given that in the anon game you identified everybody's real handle.

    I'll forever love Mademoiselle WrongBonga for coming up with that batshit awesome plan. All I wanted for Christmas was the wolfnomblock, but ain't nobody surprised Gabe figured it out lickety-split.

    Here's the rundown of my play:

    Play standard vilwuf d1, which means kill the player making the most logical inconsistencies or doing the least. Gabe was the former until he explained and I realized I misunderstood him. BID became the latter. I didn't want to stay on BID because I knew that vilwuf would have pounced on Ong, but doing so would have probably gotten him killed, so I just avoided him. I felt my avoidance of Ong was easily the biggest tell, but I sorta had no choice. He was admittedly playing his C game, and we weren't going to kill him, so that was that.

    I tried really hard to come up with a case on somebody else, but I just couldn't. I think this is the main way the village played well. Nobody was on their w-game. Your personal postings were fantastic.

    I wanted to get on the right side of the d1 lynch, partly because I felt doing so would make it more likely that player would be lynched since the narrative controllers were not happy with me. Overnight, the plan was to "wake up" like I often do on d2 and blast the players on JKDS wagon. Lots of villagers would claim that was a bad lynch retrospectively, and the wolves had avoided it like the plague. I think if the n1 nom goes our way, somebody who lynched JKDS dies d2. Then we would have been in a winnable position.

    But then the Rilla block and reveal came, and what was once the goal to kill the seer by the beginning of d3 became inevitable doom. Our only hope to win was if the seer was picking peeks that were dying. Very unlikely. So we knew it was game over, and we just wanted to make something cool of it. My play fell off a cliff. That was partly the goal, but also I really do suck at fakeouting since I would almost never realout. We were trying to come up with the best plan to go out spectacularly, and for a while didn't know if that involved me living or dying.



    I've realized that the reason I seem to play different as a wolf is because I am an undisciplined villager. As everybody can recall, I always say I'm going to be more disciplined each time, but end up being far less so than I'd hoped. But being a wolf makes it so much easier. I think my wolf game reflects the way I think my village game should be. I reread the posts in this game way more than I do as a villager. Granted, neither of those styles is remotely fun, so I'm sure I'll be wanting to do something different.

    Baud did a good job of upsetting me. I don't think his tactics are bad, but I don't think they're the only good tactics. Maybe the more people post the better he plays, but beyond a certain point the more people post the worse I play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib
    Look back when this is over and find out who bothered to use the first 60 posts or so to try to clear themselves and clear others, as opposed to those who were trolling, laid slank cover and/or had nothing useful to say.
    FWIW, I'm not going to do that. JKDS won't either. Gabe only did it once: this game. Rong does the opposite, where he gets himself lockvil cleared as a wolf.

    Maybe if I chose a style where I don't intend on focusing attention on figuring the players out will I do that. I used to do it, and back then the rationale was twofold: (1) gets yourself cleared and (2) gets wolves to trip up. I'm just not sure how much I believe either of those anymore. We've had wolves exploit #1 before and I think #2 gives diminishing returns.

    I think this was the crux behind how we butt heads this game. It's not like it matters, I just wanted to clarify in case clarity is useful, and I would have felt the same if I wasn't a wolf. At least I think so.
  37. #1237
    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Bwaaaahahahahaha!

    Many laughs in the wolf den, but that one stood out.


    It was amazing. Many thanks to all.

    I was fighting the urge to randomly post "dat village" into the thread. Obv., I would never do that, but dayum.
    rilla/baudib/gabe OP.
    I don't remember either of these, I was skimming a bunch in the middle when those two country hens really started clucking

    You gonna play the next one mojo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rong View Post
    This game frustrated me a lot. I was more into this game than any I've played in a long time, but life and alcohol pulled me away and trying to catch up e days of posts is such am effort.

    Looking forward to rilla being a wolf. I wanna see if he's figured out to fake himself yet.
    Good to see you getting more involved again for sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    I don't remember either of these, I was skimming a bunch in the middle when those two country hens really started clucking
    Country hens who needed to figure out what we were going to do. I was confused on the full plan almost all of d2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I've realized that the reason I seem to play different as a wolf is because I am an undisciplined villager. As everybody can recall, I always say I'm going to be more disciplined each time, but end up being far less so than I'd hoped. But being a wolf makes it so much easier. I think my wolf game reflects the way I think my village game should be. I reread the posts in this game way more than I do as a villager. Granted, neither of those styles is remotely fun, so I'm sure I'll be wanting to do something different.

    Baud did a good job of upsetting me. I don't think his tactics are bad, but I don't think they're the only good tactics. Maybe the more people post the better he plays, but beyond a certain point the more people post the worse I play.
    good post, i like some points you made in here. the discplined/controlled style is effective as a villager and easy to balance as a wolf. the loose/aggressive village style is hard to play as a wolf fosho
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    good post, i like some points you made in here. the discplined/controlled style is effective as a villager and easy to balance as a wolf. the loose/aggressive village style is hard to play as a wolf fosho
    but a controlled style will get you lynched as a villager more. an aggro style can lead to doing more things that clear you
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Country hens who needed to figure out what we were going to do. I was confused on the full plan almost all of d2.
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    i defended ong because i believed his reasoning for why he said "wuf crumbed angel." turns out it was probably a legit excuse, but doesnt mean he couldnt be a wolf. bad read. i think all the day 1 jkds wagon and postcount system worked fine and helped organize and clear the village.



    are there any fun versions that are wolf heavy and the village gets more power? or do we need to think of one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    good post, i like some points you made in here. the discplined/controlled style is effective as a villager and easy to balance as a wolf. the loose/aggressive village style is hard to play as a wolf fosho
    This is my problem. It's really tough to fake my villager game consitently for days maybe weeks. It's really draining because I'm such a high volume player. I was a very obvious wolf this game, and so was I the last time I was wolf. I'm gonna have to make some changes because I don't like to let my buddies down really. Plus I don't like people thinking I'm an average wolf. I have an ego. So yeah my next villager game (hopefully the very next game) will be lower profile, lower volume, but ideally not lacking in quality. That's the plan, anyway. I'll probably bink wolf though because random.org seems to like me.
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    Also, cheers wuf, but I'm also convinced you can come up with this plan if given a little more time. It's not creative genius, it's just the willingness to take risks in order to increase the fun factor. You have that, and you have creativity. I just beat you to it really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    FWIW, I'm not going to do that. JKDS won't either. Gabe only did it once: this game. Rong does the opposite, where he gets himself lockvil cleared as a wolf.

    Maybe if I chose a style where I don't intend on focusing attention on figuring the players out will I do that. I used to do it, and back then the rationale was twofold: (1) gets yourself cleared and (2) gets wolves to trip up. I'm just not sure how much I believe either of those anymore. We've had wolves exploit #1 before and I think #2 gives diminishing returns.

    I think this was the crux behind how we butt heads this game. It's not like it matters, I just wanted to clarify in case clarity is useful, and I would have felt the same if I wasn't a wolf. At least I think so.
    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    good post, i like some points you made in here. the discplined/controlled style is effective as a villager and easy to balance as a wolf. the loose/aggressive village style is hard to play as a wolf fosho
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    but a controlled style will get you lynched as a villager more. an aggro style can lead to doing more things that clear you
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    i defended ong because i believed his reasoning for why he said "wuf crumbed angel." turns out it was probably a legit excuse, but doesnt mean he couldnt be a wolf. bad read. i think all the day 1 jkds wagon and postcount system worked fine and helped organize and clear the village.



    are there any fun versions that are wolf heavy and the village gets more power? or do we need to think of one?
    The problem with this strategy is that most player's post count isnt related to role, and that the veto's guaranteed a villager is lynched. There is no doubt that inactive players hurt the village though, and getting rid of them as soon as possible...even if they are all villagers, is helpful. The issue with that though, is that so many of us are inactive that there isnt enough time to lynch them all.

    That said, when the game is unbalanced, lynching 'randomly' will usually net a win for whoever the game favors. Lynching inactives is essentially doing that.



    Idk of wolf heavy games really. Spectacularrrrrs are fun, but they arent exactly balanced. One thing that could happen is increasing the wolf count but taking away their kill. That lengthens the amount of time the village has to find the wolves...but it doesnt let the wolves kill pesky villagers so meh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    i defended ong because i believed his reasoning for why he said "wuf crumbed angel." turns out it was probably a legit excuse, but doesnt mean he couldnt be a wolf. bad read. i think all the day 1 jkds wagon and postcount system worked fine and helped organize and clear the village.



    are there any fun versions that are wolf heavy and the village gets more power? or do we need to think of one?
    The wuf angel thing was pure spazz. I figured it would stop his wagon taking off while looking like I was rolefishing him, but I should've talked it through with luco and wuf first, and they'd have told me it was a stupid idea.
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    Thanks for modding dhuber.

    Thanks to the wolves for making this fun. I loved reading the den and really liked your attitude about this game.

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    Cheers, I mean obviously I wasn't happy that rilla got cleared, but luco said it best really... you play the cards you're dealt. I felt demotivated for a short while, but I was also playing badly and that was a significant factor in my mood.
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    Wuf, toning down your villager game to make yourself a better wolf is inherently stupid and massively -EV for you in both roles.

    it just means you'll be policy lynched a lot. Just learn to post better as a wolf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    Wuf, toning down your villager game to make yourself a better wolf is inherently stupid and massively -EV for you in both roles.

    it just means you'll be policy lynched a lot. Just learn to post better as a wolf.
    It's toning down my village game to make my village game better, not to make just my wolf game better. Additionally, I think good wolf play is the same as good village play.

    It was in the game before this that I realized that I evaluate players better when I stop saying everything I think and instead spend more time rereading posts. When doing that, analyzing intentions and behaviors is easier. When posting a lot, I get into ruts full of way too many assumptions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Cheers, I mean obviously I wasn't happy that rilla got cleared, but luco said it best really... you play the cards you're dealt. I felt demotivated for a short while, but I was also playing badly and that was a significant factor in my mood.
    I think I got over the rilla clear in under a minute, and I wasn't even that mad to start with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    It's toning down my village game to make my village game better, not to make just my wolf game better. Additionally, I think good wolf play is the same as good village play.

    It was in the game before this that I realized that I evaluate players better when I stop saying everything I think and instead spend more time rereading posts. When doing that, analyzing intentions and behaviors is easier. When posting a lot, I get into ruts full of way too many assumptions.
    I think it's just way better to flow naturally. I mean obviously this will lead directly to contradictions that people will sometimes call you out for, but if you let everyone see what you're thinking they'll get it and you get mislynched less. This is the advice I got from the GOAT turbo player in the world and it works for me (I haven't been mislynched in a long time)
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  55. #1255
    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    I think I got over the rilla clear in under a minute, and I wasn't even that mad to start with.
    TBH I was happy. It was a relief to know it was over. Shit was not going to be easy.

    Plus I adore bitching about imba. That just made the imba more obvious.
  56. #1256
    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    I think it's just way better to flow naturally. I mean obviously this will lead directly to contradictions that people will sometimes call you out for, but if you let everyone see what you're thinking they'll get it and you get mislynched less. This is the advice I got from the GOAT turbo player in the world and it works for me (I haven't been mislynched in a long time)
    I think this strategy is incredible if you're good at it.
  57. #1257
    Looking forward to bed. Having to turn your head towards the villager perspective just to post can be taxing.
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  58. #1258
    wolfing is physically taxing
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  59. #1259
    This has to be the craziest plan I've ever seen, and I had the entire dead chat rolling when I asked the mod in that no-reveal game if I were allowed to nom a fellow wolf.

    in that game there was no chance of misinterpretation because the village would just assume it was really the real seer.
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  60. #1260
    baud's absolute confidence that im not the seer is strange. i mean, he does believe things he doesn't actually know quite vociferously as a villager, but this could be a tell that he's the seer. or it could be him pretending to be the seer
    Like I said, I was semi-bluffing.

    Ong was really good at figuring out I wasn't the seer. I think there is a decent % of time I get nommed on N2 (like in those universes where the wolves don't go for broke with a batshit crazy triple fake claim).

    sick game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    You gonna play the next one mojo?
    I can't imagine sitting out 2 in a row.

    Besides, I gotta prove that I didn't get my 100% wolf victory rating by fluke! Also, I still have to prove myself a capable villager by living to the final decision and not suiciding!
  62. #1262
    MMM there were a couple moments where the thread was quiet and I really wished you were in the game to give us chartz and shit.
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  63. #1263
    I think wolves would have had a really good chance if there had been a double up on seer peeks with specials, like if rascal had peeked Hoopy N1 instead of Boog.

    Luco being a wolf with the fake claim + obliterating Ong and Wuf was kinda mind-bending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew View Post
    I'm very very very confident in my tone read of gabe and luco.

    Gabe is a villager
    luco is a wolf

    not changing unless epic things happen
    Bink bink

    too bad I was too occupied with moving again (4th time in 18 months) ...

    busy until mid june and would love to play again then.

    thanks dhub!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    not bad
    Wow sick baudib
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    BiD I actually took your Luco read into account several times (I don't think I mentioned it in the thread, but I was toying with the idea of wagoning Luco several times).
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    MMM there were a couple moments where the thread was quiet and I really wished you were in the game to give us chartz and shit.
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  68. #1268
    Rilla, you had SO many amazing posts this game but this one really startled me

    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    Literally zero percent chance Baud is a wolf. Bank it.

    Gabe also in the halo of unimpeachable villagers.
    Since you were the wolf target n1 and probably thought you were likely to die N2, did you just go all-in trying to rep seer with this or did you really just know Gabe and I were 100% villagers?
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  69. #1269
    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    I think it's just way better to flow naturally. I mean obviously this will lead directly to contradictions that people will sometimes call you out for, but if you let everyone see what you're thinking they'll get it and you get mislynched less. This is the advice I got from the GOAT turbo player in the world and it works for me (I haven't been mislynched in a long time)
    This is good advice, thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew View Post
    Bink bink

    too bad I was too occupied with moving again (4th time in 18 months) ...

    busy until mid june and would love to play again then.

    thanks dhub!
    I am also moving house over the next couple of months, so it's a good time to mod rather than play I think.

    I'll open a signup thread in a couple of weeks
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  72. #1272
    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    LOL. I really thought you were a vanillager providing seer cover since Wuf and Ong's claims were so bad. I didn't even think about you not being vanillager until I realized Hoopy was clear, which put you in the POE. But last in the POE.

    Well played. It would have been interesting to play it out if it wouldn't have been a locked game.
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  73. #1273
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    This is my problem. It's really tough to fake my villager game consitently for days maybe weeks. It's really draining because I'm such a high volume player. I was a very obvious wolf this game, and so was I the last time I was wolf. I'm gonna have to make some changes because I don't like to let my buddies down really. Plus I don't like people thinking I'm an average wolf. I have an ego. So yeah my next villager game (hopefully the very next game) will be lower profile, lower volume, but ideally not lacking in quality. That's the plan, anyway. I'll probably bink wolf though because random.org seems to like me.
    You can join me in the low profile wolfy villager section. I'm probably the biggest werewolf nit ever.
  74. #1274
    Hoopy is a national treasure
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    Rilla, you had SO many amazing posts this game but this one really startled me



    Since you were the wolf target n1 and probably thought you were likely to die N2, did you just go all-in trying to rep seer with this or did you really just know Gabe and I were 100% villagers?
    I really only made the post because I was super-cleared villager, but I've had a pretty good track record calling out my firm villager reads as hundo villas. I don't think I've ever been wrong.
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