***2010 CHRISTMAS WEREWOLF***

Originally Posted by Galapogos

Uhh he said he's old. It's more like:



imo

Accurate, imo. Plus she's a scrawny bag o bones. She could take an eye out with a rib.

Don´t discourage the elderly from using the intewebs.

fuck this, i'm going to sleep till morning.

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Lolzzz are you sure you actually remembered to send the PMs?

If you havent picked yet, random.org can help you decide.

If we're waiting on trip...then

It's obvious that the alpha thinks we're all idiots and has asked trip if he can outsource his team

Originally Posted by bigred

It's obvious that the alpha thinks we're all idiots and has asked trip if he can outsource his team

Damn asians taking all our jobs! Snap lynch all the asians ldo or Boog because he's like... mildly Indian looking.

Originally Posted by Donachello

Damn asians taking all our jobs! Snap lynch all the asians ldo or Boog because he's like... mildly Indian looking.

This is the first "brown" joke that made me chuckle in a while. I hope Sup3rman's not around though...he gets a bit touchy about people joking here on FTR.

Superman is such kryponite to fun..amirite?@?!?!?!

The village has lost one if its most valuable members. The village woke up on DAY 1 and discovered a500lbgorilla's shredded corpse. They demand blood.


13 VOTES NEEDED TO LYNCH





The Village of Grundle
StillDeadMoney
BooG690
GatorJH
Keith_MM
Icanhastreebet
Warpe
Carroters
jackvance
supahole
wufwugy
JKDS
TLR
bigred
DanAronG
HoopyDude
kfaess
fulksy
DropTheBanana
Donachello
XTR1000
philly and the fanatics
Galapogos
WillburForce
Roid_Rage
kingnat

The Departed
a500lbgorilla - killed on NIGHT 1




There are 5 Wolves and 20 Villagers
SANTA CLAWS
4 WOLVES
17 VILLAGERS
KRIS KRINGLE
GABRIEL
JOHN MCCLANE

I smell a reg behind this.

perhaps your upper lip?

rilla is dead?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Originally Posted by Warpe

I smell a reg behind this.

Definitely.

Originally Posted by Warpe

I smell a reg behind this.

Agreed. lynch bigred

Lynch keith because he's so god damned confusing and I'm a villager who doesn't want to be confused.

yea for real anyone trying to keep keith alive is a wolf imo, srsly last game as vampires we all agreed keeping keith alive was beneficial to us, so i think the converse would be true here.

As for the nomm, i agree it points to a reg but after looking at the list like fucking 15 of you are regs...

so let me get this straight, this means they opted not to recruit (am i following the rules right) or can they only recruit on certain nights like the vigilante? and if we get santy claws today they cannot recruit anyone right? Why wouldn't they recruit on night 1 can anyone explain what the benefit of this would be?

ok just reread the rules, i guess they can only recruit 1 guy and they can do it on any of the first 3 nights, and the vig gets a shot every other night like normal starting night 2....ok so still dont get why they would wait on the recruitment but at least im caught up on the rules

hrm, i wonder if i can lynch keith today. if not, that boog fellow looks super wolfy

There is probably one reg at least on the wolf team (given the line up it is hardly surprising)
Given the long time it took for night 1 I assume the wolf members have a time zone difference between them, there are some of the regs that are in europe and some in the us, I dont know of anyone in this list who lives in the far east or austalia, does anyone have any idea ?

The Europe based regs that I recall [JKDS, Keith, WBF, yours truly]

I can get behind a Keith or WBF lynch for now

Nope. Americaaaaaaaaaaaa fuck ya

Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics

ok just reread the rules, i guess they can only recruit 1 guy and they can do it on any of the first 3 nights, and the vig gets a shot every other night like normal starting night 2....ok so still dont get why they would wait on the recruitment but at least im caught up on the rules

Santa Claws and the wolves (or whatever they are) are two separate teams.

Originally Posted by BooG690

Santa Claws and the wolves (or whatever they are) are two separate teams.

Pretty sure they are one team cause there wasn't 2 noms last night.

If a delay like what we experienced is very rare, or if in the past there have been any specific reasons for a delay, focusing on that should be smart. Especially since it could make it more probable to gut Santy Claws early.

On page 14 of the last game you'll find that Keith claimed to have woken up at 5 am, and his miracle timing post that outed gabe as a wolf was at 9:21 PM PST (unless my clock is off, somebody double check). Then Night 1 ended today at 7:00 PM PST. While I was liking a Keith lynch based on a timing idea, I don't think I like it now since it would suggest lolzz got all the info for the Night while Keith was still in bed

Make sure to double my numbers though. I failed hard at math in HS

Originally Posted by Icanhastreebet

Pretty sure they are one team cause there wasn't 2 noms last night.

No, Santy Claws recruited last night. That's why no two noms

Or maybe I'm wrong. I thought I saw a bunch of inconsistencies WRT nomming order in the last game, but didn't say anything cuz I figured it was just my own confusion instead of Warpe making a mistake

ok well before we go any further i think lols needs to clear up if there is 2 teams or wtf is going on

Rilla is a genuine loss to the vilage, why oh why couldn't they have taken keith.

I see Keith has a couple of bolds on him already, and although I'm drooling slightly at the prospect of killing him off so early, I'm reluctant to wagon a reg too soon, even if said reg is keith and would save us all a good hour or two in the long run.

I don't read too much into the timing from day one as all it actually means is at least one out of seer/vig/angel/santa/3wolveas/lolzzz wasn't around, which doesn't actually tell us fuck all! Could even be the wolves & Lolzzz fucking up setting up a seperate forum or something, so I don't think that should lead us too much on day one, but perhaps after a couple of days instead.


Actually fuck it, it's day one, someone's got to die.lynch keith until something better comes along. But does it actually get better than this?

Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics

ok well before we go any further i think lols needs to clear up if there is 2 teams or wtf is going on

I thought that was pretty clear, 2 teams, wolves which behave like normal wolves, and santa who can kill each night similar to standard wolves, but also chose to forfeit his kill on one of the first three nights to recruit instead.

Hence, santa recxruited.

Just to save myself from reading his incredibly long mid to end game posts, I can get down with lynch Keith

Out of curiosity...I don't think 'rilla played in the last game I was in. Why do y'all think a reg (or regs) killed him off? I'm just trying to stay up to pace with everyone.

from the intro

Santa Claws is no dummy and has recruitd a number of bellicose killer werewolves

this statement implies that the werewolves are part of santa's team , which in turn implies that there is only one team. Are the people claiming two teams trying to cause confusion , looks at Dan.


point two that comes up from the noobs saying that its not in the rules for the last couple of games is

NO editing posts

Originally Posted by Icanhastreebet

Lynch keith because he's so god damned confusing and I'm a villager who doesn't want to be confused.

I stand by my record i voted multiple times for the wolves/vamps last game and stayed away from the silly bandwagons that got going for no reason.

I look for reasons for accusing people and give them thereby letting the people i accuse the chance to respond and defend themselves. If i'm so confusing why is it that when i am in the endgame as a villager the village has never lost?

Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics

yea for real anyone trying to keep keith alive is a wolf imo, srsly last game as vampires we all agreed keeping keith alive was beneficial to us, so i think the converse would be true here.

And how did that work out for your team then, you died because although you were both targetting me and BJS had been taken in by your smears I had done things through the game to prove to Jack that I was a villager.Have the wolves realised this and are now trying to target me in the early stages hoping they can get a wagon started?.

Originally Posted by TLR

There is probably one reg at least on the wolf team (given the line up it is hardly surprising)
Given the long time it took for night 1 I assume the wolf members have a time zone difference between them, there are some of the regs that are in europe and some in the us, I dont know of anyone in this list who lives in the far east or austalia, does anyone have any idea ?

The Europe based regs that I recall [JKDS, Keith, WBF, yours truly]

I can get behind a Keith or WBF lynch for now

This is a baffling statement from TLR as he's not normally this sloppy. Incidentally its the first time that he's ever said he's from europe while i've been playing and I have listed my known euros many times and he's never volunteered this info before.

JKDS as he's pointed out is US and a wolf if he's still alive beyond day 4. Me and wilbur ok , but what happened to the likes of DoneWrong,Hoopy,XTR,Jackvance who are all euro and i'm pretty sure carrot is as well. This doesn't even include the noobs.

I find it interesting that Dan didn't correct TLR and point out that he's a euro. Coupled with this is the difference between his approach this game and last game with respect to me getting nominated early.

Originally Posted by DanAronG

Rilla is a genuine loss to the vilage, why oh why couldn't they have taken keith.

pretty standard day 1 from dan

I see Keith has a couple of bolds on him already, and although I'm drooling slightly at the prospect of killing him off so early, I'm reluctant to wagon a reg too soon, even if said reg is keith and would save us all a good hour or two in the long run.

pretty much what he said at the start of the last game when he was a villager. Although it should perhaps be noted that wolves drool at the thought of a kill.

I don't read too much into the timing from day one as all it actually means is at least one out of seer/vig/angel/santa/3wolveas/lolzzz wasn't around, which doesn't actually tell us fuck all! Could even be the wolves & Lolzzz fucking up setting up a seperate forum or something, so I don't think that should lead us too much on day one, but perhaps after a couple of days instead.

inside knowledge for the delay?

Actually fuck it, it's day one, someone's got to die.lynch keith until something better comes along. But does it actually get better than this?

And back to Dan's normal response as a wolf.Why all the reluctance earlier and trying to appear a good responsible villager . This post appears contrived and aimed at appearing to be a villager whilst doing something wolfy.

lynch dan

I didn't point out that I'm in England because firstly most people know that and secondly, what I did point out is that I think the theory is rubbish this early in the game.

Your first post makes an interesting point though. One team of wolves it is I guess.

I'll bandwagon.

lynch DanAronG

I can definitely jump on a rescind bigred and lynch dan

Yeah I also assumed there's only one team (they're all one color, red, simple no), I even made a sarcastic post about santa shoulda been his own team. To which lolllz replied with a wtf gif, so not sure maybe he intended this anyway. But I guess not. And on closer inspection the wolves can indeed only recruit *once* so that explains the kill, they'll probably be saving the recruiting for their deadline of night 3.

I must say I am surprised at the start of the game, the rilla kill doesn't even imply much beyond that there is someone on the wolf team that has played before. Not surprising with ~20% wolves. So where is the "lets kill noobs" start.. shift in metagame or wolves taking the lead?

kill the noobs work well when we dont have any other info, this game started at night so we have some info

Still, there's quite some names I've never seen before we gotta get everyone posting or this'll be so hard when the game progresses.

Originally Posted by TLR

kill the noobs work well when we dont have any other info, this game started at night so we have some info

This

I'm thinking that if Warpe/Bigred/Gator were wolves they wouldn't nom rilla on the first night, obviously a big assumption but maybe we should look at some of the more low profile regs who know how good he is.

We've got a 6/25 chance of hitting assuming Claws recruited last night, and (worse case) we can make 6 wrong lynches and still win.

Originally Posted by HoopyDude

We've got a 6/25 chance of hitting assuming Claws recruited last night, and (worse case) we can make 6 wrong lynches and still win.

From the initial post:

You may not kill a player on the night you choose to recruit.

Since rilla is dead, there was no recruitment on night 1.

Haven't played for several games, but does Keith always take the time for such epic posts for a day 1 bandwagon? It looks highly suspect... but since I will be afk most of the day, I don't mind a snap lynch for day 1. So... lynch dan

Yo Gator, what were you up to last night?

Originally Posted by StillDeadMoney

From the initial post:
Since rilla is dead, there was no recruitment on night 1.

I'm pretty sure this is right but I could be wrong? But Dan why were you so adamant about there being two teams? I remember the last time you were a wolf making some pretty obvious mistakes although this could just be standard Dan vs Keith early game BS.

I don't like a Keith lynch though since despite having walls of text to read through he is usually quite good at sniffing out discrepancies.

lynch Dan

I'm fine with a keith or dan lynch. Keith basically proved everyone's point by writing a superlong post ON DAY 1 wtf.

But, a dan lynch is the way things are going right now so,

lynch dan

Oh and I can´t fight the urge to lynch JV, the wolfiest of them all.

Oyay! Snap lynch Dan!

Lynch Keith

Cannot be assed with his shit this time, he's pretty much completely undectable as a villager or a wolf, yet cuases more confusion and pain to the village than assistance, Ez game.

I am going to hop on the lynch Keith wagon

ok goin' with Lynch Dan.

Lynch Keith for all the reasons Carrots outlined.

Holy fuck! How the hell did I end up with a full on bw?

Oh well, rather die today than later when I've actually invested time in the game and being a villager is dull anyway. But hey, please lynch several people on my bw tomorrow when I'm found to be a villager. Or keith today ldfo!

Originally Posted by Carroters

Cannot be assed with his shit this time, he's pretty much completely undectable as a villager or a wolf,

I disagree. Used to be like this, but now given time I can tell.

It does look like Dan made a contrived post, could indicate wolfyness.

lynch Dan

Actually, if I don't try and save myself now when I''m a shitty villager, then it's always gonna be obvious when I'm a special, so with that in mind:

How does me stating that I think there are two teams make me wolfy? That's rediculous! Obviously it would come out if I'm wrong pretty quickly and would in no way benefit me as a wolf. I said it cos I thought it. It's studpid to link that with being a wolf, not sure who said that and can't be assed to check, but it's no less stupid.

As for me voting for Keith right after stating that it might be a bad idea to lynch him today, well I'm right, it prob is a bad idea, but I couldn't help it, the post pretty much tells it's own tale of a conflicted soul who wants to do what's best for the village but also loves lynching Keith on day one. It is not contrived (assumng that to be the proposed contrived post).

And as for all who voted me, it was a bit dam quick wasn't it? Huh? Seriously, both bws took off mighty fast, so almost def some wolves in there. BVut w/e, defence done

Oh, and nice work Keith, you got that one going out of nothing. And if you turn out to with be a wolf and survive today at my expense, well played sir.

I think there may be something to the Euro timing thing but maybe not...lolzzz usually does a pretty good job of leaving the village hanging (no pun intended) to cover timing tells, but not always.

Meh, it's a coinflip. I've got other candidates in mind but for now I'll lynch Keith.

Originally Posted by StillDeadMoney

From the initial post:



Since rilla is dead, there was no recruitment on night 1.

Ah ok that makes more sense, 7 wrong lynches it is.

2 fast BW's, vote tally by my count.

Dan - 9
Keith - 7

Dan's defense post seems different to the ones he's made when he was a wolf, less aggressive and more like a villager. As for Keith though he writes MASSIVE posts they do help sometimes.

Wolves versus Village guys (2 teams)

I agree , good defence post from dan and i reckon thatthe wolves are all over our wagons. One that sticks out to me is Kingnat , conveniently going to be away so no need for him to post any more, slotting himself in mid bandwagon and happy for a snap lynch. supa also falls in that category of snap lynching.

rescind Dan lynch kingnat

rescind Dan

Going to follow Keith's lead again to see where it takes me.

Originally Posted by Keith_MM

I agree , good defence post from dan and i reckon thatthe wolves are all over our wagons. One that sticks out to me is Kingnat , conveniently going to be away so no need for him to post any more, slotting himself in mid bandwagon and happy for a snap lynch. supa also falls in that category of snap lynching.

rescind Dan lynch kingnat

I thought I wouldn't need an excuse to snap jump on a bandwagon for Dan. You know as well as anybody that I always go after Dan (mostly coz he's a wolf like 90% of the time). However this time he's posted some pretty wolfy shit, which you yourself pointed out.

The fact that you know (and you know you know) that I'd be quick on Dans BW and are slotting me in that category makes you hella suspicious.

This and the fact that Santa is prolly a reg in this game makes you my top pick for Santa. Your move Mr. Claws.
Rescind Dan, Lynch Keith

Originally Posted by supahaole

I thought I wouldn't need an excuse to snap jump on a bandwagon for Dan. You know as well as anybody that I always go after Dan (mostly coz he's a wolf like 90% of the time). However this time he's posted some pretty wolfy shit, which you yourself pointed out.

and i let people defend themselves.

The fact that you know (and you know you know) that I'd be quick on Dans BW and are slotting me in that category makes you hella suspicious.

This and the fact that Santa is prolly a reg in this game makes you my top pick for Santa. Your move Mr. Claws.
Rescind Dan, Lynch Keith

Your logic is completely stupid. If I'm santa as you claim why rescind dan and put myself at risk and lose the wolf team a chance to recruit. Swapping your vote from dan to me on your logic is really wolfy.

rescind kingnat lynch supa

rescind Keith

I don't have much input on the Dan/Keith thing because I don't really know how elaborate the lies of the baddies are in a two team game i.e. how likely they are to derail or to BW hop. Looks to me like either both of them are villagers and the wagons just took off, probably with the help of the baddies; or someone in here is a baddy who is trying to derail. I think the latter is very unlikely, and former likely, so I don't really like a Dan or Keith lynch. However, in the last game gabe was an early target, his lynching ended up being delayed, yet ended up being right, so I don't want to get in the way of an early target at this point

Originally Posted by Keith_MM

Your logic is completely stupid. If I'm santa as you claim why rescind dan and put myself at risk and lose the wolf team a chance to recruit.

Even as a villager it wouldn't make sense for you to put yourself at risk. Unless you planned that as you're defense before doing it. :/

With such a close margin between you two, I can't figure out why you would do that at all actually. (villager or not)

Changing your vote after Dan's defense posts that would arouse suspicion against you if we find out he is in fact a villager is pretty suspect imo. But, I do peg you as one of the better WW players and I can't figure out if you would make such a clumsy mistake as a wolf.

Originally Posted by Keith_MM

Your logic is completely stupid. If I'm santa as you claim why rescind dan and put myself at risk and lose the wolf team a chance to recruit. Swapping your vote from dan to me on your logic is really wolfy.

rescind kingnat lynch supa

Your logic always seems to be "the person who's a wolf is the person who is trying to get me lynched."

Originally Posted by DropTheBanana

I can't figure out why you would do that at all actually. (villager or not)

Well it wqas your logic dude. But that's the point, I may well have been wrong, but that doesn't in any way make it wolfy in any way.

And on a side note, the more I see it the more your avatar freaks me out, is it a ladyboy or somin?

Awful lotta cat fighting going on in here. It's the weekend, nerds. lynch gator ldo

Re: Dan's sidenote

No. Former UF cheerleader. You can wack to it without feeling guilty.

Britany Raymond - Florida - Cheerleader of the Week - Photos - SI.com

Anyone who wouldn't wear that shit out IRL, I guarantee likes cock's in or around their mouth/ass.

I am more perplexed that jkds/warpe/JV are all alive and were not chosen instead of rilla rather than all this keith/dan nonsense....i believe dan's 2 team shit was genuine and that he is a villager (if he really is leveling here then WP dan) and its too early to get a read on keith ...i could be game with lynching him just to spare us the long convoluted future posts but as far as lynching him for being a wolf goes then i am not sold.

im going to stick with what i know and thats lynching n00bs on day 1 lynch kfaess

no info here to go on.

Only thing i'll pick up on is that Warpe posted 1st after daybreak.

lynch Warpe.

Originally Posted by WillburForce

no info here to go on.

Only thing i'll pick up on is that Warpe posted 1st after daybreak.

lynch Warpe.

Not only that, he hopped on the Keith bw in a way that's a bit uncharacteristic of him (or rather, I wouldn't expect him to do that, but that's ofc subjective). I thought he could be a wolf when I saw that post. And then he rescinded. Still he looks more wolfy to me than Dan/Keith or even Kingnat/Supa.

rescind

lynch warpe

lol

WillburForce fits the Eurodonk profile perfectly

and jv is usually a lot more careful...

I'm holding my vote until some more suspicion is spread around

those are 3 terrible defence posts old man.