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Originally Posted by revolvingiris
If we are 100bbs deep and villain raises 20bbs regardless of the blind size
Where did I say shove 20x ^^^...fulksy doc is being sarcastic. My point is that a lot of you are getting too caught up in "how many BB deep we are". Once someone raises, its almost as if their raise size becomes the new BB. I am also aware that doc is good enough to do this on his own but I guess I'll humor him.
This is a $10 sat...The ranges here don't have to be super tight but Ill go with this.
Hand 0: 51.954% { TT }
Hand 1: 48.046% { 77+, AJs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo }
Hero stack worth if folds: .14
hero push, villain fold: .16
hero push, and villain call, hero win: .27
hero push, villain call, hero lose: 0
hero FE: 36.31%
(.36*.16) + (.32*.27) + (.33*0) = .057+.086 = .14
Push is neutral EV but there are more things to consider than just that.
A) What flop are you really happy to do anything other than check? How often will that board type come up?
B) Villain can fold and hero adds 10% to his stack.
C) Hero can still win if called in which case if he does. He will have 34% of the chips in play and assuming all player edges equal. He will win the tourney more than 1/3rd of the time.
BTW I didn't know the pay out structure so I just assumed this was a stt with top two getting a seat.
If anyone is interested or would like to check math:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...se-136353.html
As for the 100bb, 20bb raise hand
This is too general of a statement to make and add any real math. However its a point people should think about. Say in OP villain raised to 600 pf instead. We are still 38bb deep but flat calling would be terrible. What if villain made this bet with the same range he 3x from UTG? I think this illustrates what I was trying to get at more.
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