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    Default Weird spot deep in bovada mtt ?

    No HHs so sorry gonna be in kinda funky form but stick wit me !

    2k/4k blinds wit 400 ante

    Folds to MP

    Big stack of table with (110k) opens to min 8k

    Shorty on button goes all in for lil over 10k

    SB with 30k flats

    Hero in bb with 99 and 60k

    Whats is your play ?
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    looks like a terribly easy shove. I'd shove with probably like 66-77+ AQ+ AJs, but I'm rusty at mtt's. You can probably flat a decent amount of stuff there as well since its only for 4k to play a protected pot.
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    I always feel at the table that these spots are great, but then the person flatting all too often flips over a big pair and I feel that the warning signs were there. Fact is, AK AQ 88 etc, the kind of hands we're happy to take on, are usually shoving to ISO to the short stack. The fact this guy doesn't shove has me worried that we're dominated. We have very little fold equity, he's not putting 1/3 of his stack in to fold, so I think in theory we should fold, but that doesn't mean to say it's what I actually do.

    Any reads on the guy flatting, or pfr?

    *edit - I didn't read renton's post before posting. Yeah based on it being a protected pot and just 6k into 30k, we can probably call, but pfr is yet to act so I'm not sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post

    *edit - I didn't read renton's post before posting. Yeah based on it being a protected pot and just 6k into 30k, we can probably call, but pfr is yet to act so I'm not sure.
    I wasn't advocating a flat with 99, although its certainly +ev. I think you can probably flat any offsuit broadway and loads of decent suited stuff, since you'll likely get to realize most of your equity in this protected pot and the odds are enormous.

    Also, PFR can't reopen the betting here, the shove was only for 1k more.
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    Also, PFR can't reopen the betting here, the shove was only for 1k more.
    Of course. In which case folding is gonna be pretty horrible. I still don't want to shove though because of the flat call. We have no reads, and we don't know what stakes we're at, so I'm default assuming villain is average. Putting myself in his shoes, I'm not flatting hands like 88 and AK, I'm ISO'ing these, so the flat call reps some strength imo. I'm not expecting to be in good shape when we shove and he calls.
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