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    Default Was my 3 bet too light? Deep Itm@Hero $3R

    This is the Hero Poker $3 rebuy and at this point we were in the money! Villan has been very active over the 46 hands i have on him! I have 3 bet jammed on him once before this hand during the bubble. I honestly didn't think i would get a call here ;Even though i know that i was super light and behind his calling range.
    Im honestly confused about how light you should 3-bet very active players. I ended up busting a few mtt's today where i felt i was 3-betting super light. obv 24s has 34% equity vs his 31% raise 1st percentage! But im thinking that i should be 3 betting a tighter range here? as 42s is like 81% of my range here!!!! seems like i was way off here! I think i let my emotions get the best of me! Sorry if i am cluttering it's 2am here.




    Merge, $3 Buy-in (1,250/2,500 blinds, 250 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    CO: 40,076 (16 bb)
    BTN: 92,766 (37.1 bb) villan HUD Stats= vpip:27 pr:22 raise 1st 31%(67% btn) steal% was 63 over 46 hands
    Hero (SB): 46,188 (18.5 bb)
    BB: 80,398 (32.2 bb)
    UTG: 44,466 (17.8 bb)
    MP: 73,125 (29.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 2 4
    3 folds, BTN raises to 10,250, Hero raises to 45,938 and is all-in, BB folds, BTN calls 35,688

    Flop: (95,876) J 4 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    Turn: (95,876) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: (95,876) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: 95,876 pot
    Final Board: J 4 8 7 7
    BTN showed 6 6 and won 95,876 (49,688 net)
    Hero showed 2 4 and lost (-46,188 net)
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    Don't show results when posting a hand. It can skew answerers' perspective.

    24s has 34% equity vs his 31% raise 1st percentage
    1. That's irrelevant because, unless he's never folding, you won't be all-in pre against his opening range. What matters is your equity against his calling range.

    2. The 31% is not the number you should look here because that's the open-raising percentage over all the positions. What we should be estimating is his open-raising from the BTN. (We currently have him on 67% but that's over too small a sample size - probably just over 3 occasions.)

    3. I'm guessing that you got this 34% by pokerstoving 42s against a range of 31%? This can lead to mistakes because villain's actual 31% range is almost never what Pokerstove thinks a 31% range is.

    I honestly didn't think i would get a call here
    1. There are basically two types of aggressive players. Those that also call light and those that don't. Against the latter you can sometimes 3-bet jam 100%. Against the former you need to be more selective. Until I have proof that the opponent doesn't call light I would be more cautious to shove a hand like 42s. (Especially at $3 where people call too much.)

    2. Your opponent was getting decent odds for the call. I wouldn't be surprised if he'd been willing to call quite wide here.

    3. The original raise is quite big. Is that a standard raise size for this opponent? If not, does it say something about his hand strength?
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    Default wow im so stupid

    1. That's irrelevant because, unless he's never folding, you won't be all-in pre against his opening range. What matters is your equity against his calling range.(True and i never thought of this! Im such a donk!

    2. The 31% is not the number you should look here because that's the open-raising percentage over all the positions. What we should be estimating is his open-raising from the BTN. (We currently have him on 67% but that's over too small a sample size - probably just over 3 occasions.)
    LOL right again!

    3. I'm guessing that you got this 34% by pokerstoving 42s against a range of 31%? This can lead to mistakes because villain's actual 31% range is almost never what Pokerstove thinks a 31% range is.
    Although i am aware of this! I didn't remove hands i thought he would fold in this post to figure %. But im glad you mentioned it here,so next time i post i can compare what % of hands he might call with instead. I sux lol

    3. The original raise is quite big. Is that a standard raise size for this opponent? If not, does it say something about his hand strength?
    And this is the worst ever!!!! I didn't even realize he 4x opened! Would have been an easy fold for me!
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    This play is fine if he had made a smaller raise, you had a tight image and you can feel confident that he'll call shoves with a tight range.
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    Thanks for the help sir
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    wait for a hand with better equity, also 4x raises don't like folding to 3bets.

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