should i bluff river

should proabably fold pre but pretty loose passive table and i thought at least both blinds would come along
villan is 50/14 over 22, i was going to fold turn but he made it so cheap, his line looks so weak and i can have lots of Kings that could play this way not that he would understand that i could rep that.



don't bluff river? raise flop turn?

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NL Holdem $60(BB) Replayer
SB ($204)
BB ($2,424)
UTG ($1,452)
UTG+1 ($1,065)
Hero ($2,655)
BTN ($1,200)

Dealt to Hero 9 8

fold, UTG+1 calls $60, Hero calls $60, fold, fold, BB checks

FLOP ($210) 6 J T

BB checks, UTG+1 bets $120, Hero calls $120, BB folds

TURN ($450) 6 J T 5

UTG+1 bets $180, Hero calls $180

RIVER ($810) 6 J T 5 K

UTG Checks

You know I'm going to say this, but I would give up preflop. If it was 10/20 I might consider limping along but not here.

I would also give up on the flop. You're about 5:1 against to hit on the turn but you're only getting 2:1 odds - plus not all of your OESD outs are necessarily clean because you're drawing to the arse end of the straight and the 7 and Q can't be counted as full outs for obvious reasons.

As you played it, given the odds are better on the turn I guess you can call with some implied odds. On the river, I think I would put UTG AI as a bluff considering the size of the pot, the fact that it's only another 765 chips if he calls and you will still have around a starting stack if he does.

as played raise somewhere, dont call down, fold pre though.

And yes I would bet ~450 on the river probably without better reads, you only need folds like 40% of the time that way and villain can have bricked draws too, that said you hand looks alot like a missed draw to someone who can hand read.

yep, obv fold pre for sure i think if there was another limper and i was BTN i would limp along, flop i agree is raise or fold i think, thanks

either shove turn or river, if not the whole hand is meh and just fold pre. if you do one of these it's great and folding pre flop is awful. shoving flop can't be bad but BB behind + chance clown calls with AQ/AK I'd rather wait for turn.

you can play a pot with 9 high that you don't try to win without making something now and then but I don't see a reason to do so here.

If it was 10/20 I might consider limping along

there is no way this is close unless you're not playing aggro enough or folding waaaay too many pairs.

Originally Posted by drmcboy

either shove turn or river, if not the whole hand is meh and just fold pre. if you do one of these it's great and folding pre flop is awful. shoving flop can't be bad but BB behind + chance clown calls with AQ/AK I'd rather wait for turn.

you can play a pot with 9 high that you don't try to win without making something now and then, but hopefully not very often.



yark

yea i shoved river, but assuming being in this hand at all is ok, i think shoving turn is better.