Random hands of today's donkaments!

I'm going to play a few mtt's and I'll post interesting stuff along the way.

hand #1. stars sunday million, early.

I've been raising a bit in position so far, this (over)limpraise doesn't make sense..

PokerStars Game #7285676100: Tournament #36312328, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (60/120) - 2006/12/03 - 16:48:31 (ET)
Table '36312328 350' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: 76suited (10000 in chips)
Seat 2: DPFDennis (9840 in chips)
Seat 3: valarino9 (13306 in chips)
Seat 4: jdi23 (9124 in chips)
Seat 5: DeezNutz21 (9740 in chips)
Seat 6: gazzu (15600 in chips)
Seat 7: busto_soon (11940 in chips)
Seat 8: Dr_ROUX (2589 in chips)
Seat 9: MrAz54 (10722 in chips)
76suited: posts small blind 60
DPFDennis: posts big blind 120
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [Td Kh]
valarino9: folds
jdi23: calls 120
DeezNutz21: calls 120
gazzu: folds
busto_soon: raises 480 to 600
Dr_ROUX: folds
MrAz54: folds
76suited: folds
DPFDennis: folds
jdi23: calls 480
DeezNutz21: raises 1900 to 2500
busto_soon: raises 9440 to 11940 and is all-in

FT 216$, early.

Full Tilt Poker Game #1348121994: $350,000 Guarantee (8950321), Table 172 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:40:36 ET - 2006/12/03
Seat 1: melc_otter (2,250)
Seat 2: MNguyenthi (7,240)
Seat 3: paymenomind (5,655)
Seat 4: busto_soon (3,490)
Seat 5: EMTOOOOL (3,155)
Seat 6: cliffro8 (3,730)
Seat 7: Booteeful23 (5,080)
Seat 8: LET ME BREATHE (3,255)
Seat 9: any2willdooo (2,875)
EMTOOOOL posts the small blind of 30
cliffro8 posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [Kh Qc]
Booteeful23 folds
LET ME BREATHE folds
any2willdooo folds
melc_otter raises to 210
MNguyenthi folds
paymenomind calls 210
busto_soon has 15 seconds left to act
busto_soon raises to 720
EMTOOOOL folds
cliffro8 folds
melc_otter calls 510
paymenomind calls 510
*** FLOP *** [Ah 3d 5h]
melc_otter checks
paymenomind checks
busto_soon bets 1,111

too fast? 109 FO.

PokerStars Game #7287813520: Tournament #36701704, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/12/03 - 19:12:58 (ET)
Table '36701704 38' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: SetofKs (3470 in chips)
Seat 3: busto_soon (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: Primetime187 (1420 in chips)
Seat 5: Abes8 (1400 in chips)
Seat 6: PIW328 (1790 in chips)
Seat 7: apestyles (1000 in chips)
Seat 8: $imm0n$ (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: maxxscam (1470 in chips)
Abes8: posts small blind 10
PIW328: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [6c 6d]
apestyles: folds
$imm0n$: folds
maxxscam: folds
SetofKs: raises 40 to 60
busto_soon: calls 60
Primetime187: folds
Abes8: folds
PIW328: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [5c 6s 5s]
PIW328: bets 100
SetofKs: folds
busto_soon: raises 250 to 350
PIW328: raises 250 to 600
Sir_winalot9 is connected
busto_soon: raises 810 to 1410 and is all-in

FT 216$. call preflop?

Full Tilt Poker Game #1348344216: $350,000 Guarantee (8950321), Table 172 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:20:13 ET - 2006/12/03
Seat 1: melc_otter (6,860)
Seat 2: MNguyenthi (3,620)
Seat 3: paymenomind (5,145)
Seat 4: busto_soon (3,520)
Seat 5: EMTOOOOL (2,675)
Seat 6: cliffro8 (3,440)
Seat 7: Booteeful23 (4,670)
Seat 8: LET ME BREATHE (3,215)
Seat 9: any2willdooo (3,585)
cliffro8 posts the small blind of 60
Booteeful23 posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [As Kh]
LET ME BREATHE folds
any2willdooo folds
melc_otter folds
MNguyenthi raises to 360
paymenomind folds
busto_soon has 15 seconds left to act
busto_soon raises to 1,000
EMTOOOOL folds
cliffro8 folds
Booteeful23 folds
MNguyenthi calls 640
*** FLOP *** [4c Jh Jd]
MNguyenthi checks
busto_soon checks
*** TURN *** [4c Jh Jd] [Td]
MNguyenthi bets 2,620, and is all in
busto_soon folds

Originally Posted by johnny_fish

FT 216$. call preflop?

Full Tilt Poker Game #1348344216: $350,000 Guarantee (8950321), Table 172 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:20:13 ET - 2006/12/03
Seat 1: melc_otter (6,860)
Seat 2: MNguyenthi (3,620)
Seat 3: paymenomind (5,145)
Seat 4: busto_soon (3,520)
Seat 5: EMTOOOOL (2,675)
Seat 6: cliffro8 (3,440)
Seat 7: Booteeful23 (4,670)
Seat 8: LET ME BREATHE (3,215)
Seat 9: any2willdooo (3,585)
cliffro8 posts the small blind of 60
Booteeful23 posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [As Kh]
LET ME BREATHE folds
any2willdooo folds
melc_otter folds
MNguyenthi raises to 360
paymenomind folds
busto_soon has 15 seconds left to act
busto_soon raises to 1,000
EMTOOOOL folds
cliffro8 folds
Booteeful23 folds
MNguyenthi calls 640
*** FLOP *** [4c Jh Jd]
MNguyenthi checks
busto_soon checks
*** TURN *** [4c Jh Jd] [Td]
MNguyenthi bets 2,620, and is all in
busto_soon folds

Id be calling pf. Nice positional raise, but I'd still be shooting for a PF call because im not as good as you :P

Originally Posted by johnny_fish

too fast? 109 FO.

PokerStars Game #7287813520: Tournament #36701704, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/12/03 - 19:12:58 (ET)
Table '36701704 38' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: SetofKs (3470 in chips)
Seat 3: busto_soon (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: Primetime187 (1420 in chips)
Seat 5: Abes8 (1400 in chips)
Seat 6: PIW328 (1790 in chips)
Seat 7: apestyles (1000 in chips)
Seat 8: $imm0n$ (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: maxxscam (1470 in chips)
Abes8: posts small blind 10
PIW328: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [6c 6d]
apestyles: folds
$imm0n$: folds
maxxscam: folds
SetofKs: raises 40 to 60
busto_soon: calls 60
Primetime187: folds
Abes8: folds
PIW328: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [5c 6s 5s]
PIW328: bets 100
SetofKs: folds
busto_soon: raises 250 to 350
PIW328: raises 250 to 600
Sir_winalot9 is connected
busto_soon: raises 810 to 1410 and is all-in

this guy has an overpair here, i think. He is pretty much committed at this point, and you kind of hope he has an Ax flush draw. nhnh

FT 216 FO. Tough fold; something didn't add up here..

Full Tilt Poker Game #1348467841: The $75,000 Mulligan (9162381), Table 24 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:42:11 ET - 2006/12/03
Seat 1: tysonduke23 (2,975)
Seat 2: Favre4MVP (5,085)
Seat 3: ruwithme (5,625)
Seat 4: Wisdom9 (3,650)
Seat 5: manhatingmulato (3,765)
Seat 6: meatdawg (1,625)
Seat 7: Arthur Wang (3,025)
Seat 8: busto_soon (3,380)
Seat 9: TravestyFund (3,005)
TravestyFund posts the small blind of 30
tysonduke23 posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [Kc Jc]
Favre4MVP folds
ruwithme calls 60
Wisdom9 folds
manhatingmulato folds
meatdawg folds
Arthur Wang folds
busto_soon raises to 222
TravestyFund folds
tysonduke23 folds
ruwithme calls 162
*** FLOP *** [3d 4s 8s]
ruwithme checks
busto_soon bets 399
ruwithme calls 399
*** TURN *** [3d 4s 8s] [Ah]
ruwithme checks
busto_soon bets 888
ruwithme calls 888
*** RIVER *** [3d 4s 8s Ah] [Js]
ruwithme bets 1,160
busto_soon has 15 seconds left to act
busto_soon folds

Originally Posted by johnny_fish

FT 216 FO. Tough fold; something didn't add up here..

Full Tilt Poker Game #1348467841: The $75,000 Mulligan (9162381), Table 24 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:42:11 ET - 2006/12/03
Seat 1: tysonduke23 (2,975)
Seat 2: Favre4MVP (5,085)
Seat 3: ruwithme (5,625)
Seat 4: Wisdom9 (3,650)
Seat 5: manhatingmulato (3,765)
Seat 6: meatdawg (1,625)
Seat 7: Arthur Wang (3,025)
Seat 8: busto_soon (3,380)
Seat 9: TravestyFund (3,005)
TravestyFund posts the small blind of 30
tysonduke23 posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [Kc Jc]
Favre4MVP folds
ruwithme calls 60
Wisdom9 folds
manhatingmulato folds
meatdawg folds
Arthur Wang folds
busto_soon raises to 222
TravestyFund folds
tysonduke23 folds
ruwithme calls 162
*** FLOP *** [3d 4s 8s]
ruwithme checks
busto_soon bets 399
ruwithme calls 399
*** TURN *** [3d 4s 8s] [Ah]
ruwithme checks
busto_soon bets 888
ruwithme calls 888
*** RIVER *** [3d 4s 8s Ah] [Js]
ruwithme bets 1,160
busto_soon has 15 seconds left to act
busto_soon folds

Big stack... completed FD maybe? If he had an ace on the turn you think he would have protected it.

Originally Posted by johnny_fish

too fast? 109 FO.

PokerStars Game #7287813520: Tournament #36701704, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/12/03 - 19:12:58 (ET)
Table '36701704 38' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: SetofKs (3470 in chips)
Seat 3: busto_soon (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: Primetime187 (1420 in chips)
Seat 5: Abes8 (1400 in chips)
Seat 6: PIW328 (1790 in chips)
Seat 7: apestyles (1000 in chips)
Seat 8: $imm0n$ (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: maxxscam (1470 in chips)
Abes8: posts small blind 10
PIW328: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [6c 6d]
apestyles: folds
$imm0n$: folds
maxxscam: folds
SetofKs: raises 40 to 60
busto_soon: calls 60
Primetime187: folds
Abes8: folds
PIW328: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [5c 6s 5s]
PIW328: bets 100
SetofKs: folds
busto_soon: raises 250 to 350
PIW328: raises 250 to 600
Sir_winalot9 is connected
busto_soon: raises 810 to 1410 and is all-in

yes - way too fast. You have position and the nuts - why give him a chance to fold? Just call his reraise (after a little delay). Even check behind on the turn if he slows down. You can always pounce on the river.

Originally Posted by johnny_fish

FT 216$. call preflop?

Full Tilt Poker Game #1348344216: $350,000 Guarantee (8950321), Table 172 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:20:13 ET - 2006/12/03
Seat 1: melc_otter (6,860)
Seat 2: MNguyenthi (3,620)
Seat 3: paymenomind (5,145)
Seat 4: busto_soon (3,520)
Seat 5: EMTOOOOL (2,675)
Seat 6: cliffro8 (3,440)
Seat 7: Booteeful23 (4,670)
Seat 8: LET ME BREATHE (3,215)
Seat 9: any2willdooo (3,585)
cliffro8 posts the small blind of 60
Booteeful23 posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [As Kh]
LET ME BREATHE folds
any2willdooo folds
melc_otter folds
MNguyenthi raises to 360
paymenomind folds
busto_soon has 15 seconds left to act
busto_soon raises to 1,000
EMTOOOOL folds
cliffro8 folds
Booteeful23 folds
MNguyenthi calls 640
*** FLOP *** [4c Jh Jd]
MNguyenthi checks
busto_soon checks
*** TURN *** [4c Jh Jd] [Td]
MNguyenthi bets 2,620, and is all in
busto_soon folds

A call is fine given stack sizes - it allows you to make the same raise on the flop and try to take it down there. But your raise is totally fine too. The whole point of playing AK hard and fast preflop is to maximize value with it.

yey bb special

PokerStars Game #7288952947: Tournament #36701704, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/12/03 - 20:30:52 (ET)
Table '36701704 35' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: mcst0002 (5780 in chips)
Seat 2: PanJ (4490 in chips)
Seat 3: Junkie28 (2400 in chips)
Seat 4: BloodyAces24 (1140 in chips)
Seat 5: busto_soon (4300 in chips)
Seat 6: emptyseat88 (2995 in chips)
Seat 7: hakeide (10085 in chips)
Seat 9: teber (4480 in chips)
BloodyAces24: posts small blind 100
busto_soon: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [2c 5h]
emptyseat88: folds
hakeide: folds
teber: folds
dancetime7 is connected
mcst0002 has timed out
mcst0002: folds
mcst0002 is sitting out
PanJ: calls 200
Junkie28: folds
BloodyAces24: folds
mcst0002 has returned
busto_soon: checks
*** FLOP *** [4d 9s 3h]
busto_soon: bets 350
PanJ: calls 350
*** TURN *** [4d 9s 3h] [6d]
busto_soon: bets 850
PanJ: calls 850
*** RIVER *** [4d 9s 3h 6d] [Td]
busto_soon: bets 2900 and is all-in
PanJ: calls 2900
*** SHOW DOWN ***
busto_soon: shows [2c 5h] (a straight, Deuce to Six)
PanJ: shows [Kd Kc] (a pair of Kings)
busto_soon collected 8700 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8700 | Rake 0
Board [4d 9s 3h 6d Td]
Seat 1: mcst0002 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: PanJ showed [Kd Kc] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 3: Junkie28 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: BloodyAces24 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: busto_soon (big blind) showed [2c 5h] and won (8700) with a straight, Deuce to Six
Seat 6: emptyseat88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: hakeide folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: teber folded before Flop (didn't bet)

standard?

PokerStars Game #7289163356: Tournament #37163219, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2006/12/03 - 20:44:16 (ET)
Table '37163219 78' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: calluch (14717 in chips)
Seat 2: ugotblufd (9380 in chips)
Seat 3: Pokermäklarn (10125 in chips)
Seat 4: Olis2 (7035 in chips)
Seat 5: Appelsin (18303 in chips)
Seat 6: THAY3R (11663 in chips)
Seat 7: action59 (4220 in chips)
Seat 8: rS.Wisdom (18805 in chips)
Seat 9: busto_soon (6245 in chips)
calluch: posts the ante 20
ugotblufd: posts the ante 20
Pokermäklarn: posts the ante 20
Olis2: posts the ante 20
Appelsin: posts the ante 20
THAY3R: posts the ante 20
action59: posts the ante 20
rS.Wisdom: posts the ante 20
busto_soon: posts the ante 20
busto_soon: posts small blind 200
calluch: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [9d Ad]
ugotblufd: folds
Pokermäklarn: folds
Olis2: folds
Appelsin: folds
THAY3R: folds
action59: folds
rS.Wisdom: raises 800 to 1200
busto_soon: raises 5025 to 6225 and is all-in

Originally Posted by chardrian

yes - way too fast. You have position and the nuts - why give him a chance to fold? Just call his reraise (after a little delay). Even check behind on the turn if he slows down. You can always pounce on the river.

Missed draws don't call river bets.

Limpraise gone wrong:

POKERSTARS GAME #7289048303: TOURNAMENT #36701708, $100+$9 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL V (75/150) - 2006/12/03 - 20:36:56 (ET)
Table '36701708 5' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: JasonGray (4360 in chips)
Seat 2: busto_soon (6876 in chips)
Seat 3: Piirka (5750 in chips)
Seat 4: Jylppi (7692 in chips)
Seat 5: AlusivPnkBny (6925 in chips)
Seat 6: Diablo VT (13711 in chips)
Seat 7: hymo1234 (11012 in chips)
Seat 8: omaha kid (3420 in chips)
Seat 9: westmenloAA (9264 in chips)
westmenloAA: posts small blind 75
JasonGray: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [Kh Ah]
busto_soon: calls 150
Piirka: folds
Jylppi: folds
AlusivPnkBny: folds
Diablo VT: calls 150
hymo1234: calls 150
omaha kid: folds
westmenloAA: calls 75
JasonGray: checks
*** FLOP *** [As Qs Ac]
westmenloAA: checks
JasonGray: checks
busto_soon: bets 500
Diablo VT: folds
hymo1234: calls 500
westmenloAA: folds
JasonGray: folds
*** TURN *** [As Qs Ac] [8h]
busto_soon: bets 1250
hymo1234: calls 1250
*** RIVER *** [As Qs Ac 8h] [4s]
busto_soon: bets 2400
hymo1234: raises 4500 to 6900
busto_soon: folds
hymo1234 collected 9050 from pot

b/f > c/c > c/f?

I guess folding preflop is an option too..

POKERSTARS GAME #7289135722: TOURNAMENT #36701708, $100+$9 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL V (75/150) - 2006/12/03 - 20:42:30 (ET)
Table '36701708 5' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: JasonGray (3385 in chips)
Seat 2: busto_soon (2351 in chips)
Seat 3: Piirka (5375 in chips)
Seat 4: Jylppi (7017 in chips)
Seat 5: AlusivPnkBny (6700 in chips)
Seat 6: Diablo VT (13936 in chips)
Seat 7: hymo1234 (17412 in chips)
Seat 8: omaha kid (3270 in chips)
Seat 9: westmenloAA (9564 in chips)
omaha kid: posts small blind 75
westmenloAA: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [As Qh]
JasonGray: folds
busto_soon: raises 220 to 370
Piirka: raises 530 to 900
Jylppi: folds
AlusivPnkBny: folds
Diablo VT: folds
hymo1234: folds
omaha kid: folds
westmenloAA: folds
busto_soon: calls 530
*** FLOP *** [Jc 9s Kh]
busto_soon: bets 1451 and is all-in

preflop call ok?

Full Tilt Poker Game #1349136738: $40,000 Guarantee (8660102), Table 25 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:33:21 ET - 2006/12/03
Seat 1: Bbuddy4brkfst (9,548)
Seat 2: Horo11 (3,430)
Seat 3: tk420919 (2,390)
Seat 4: busto_soon (4,920)
Seat 5: armydoc80 (9,475)
Seat 6: rocks on wrist (3,812)
Seat 7: allosaur (6,240)
Seat 8: slili11 (3,235)
Seat 9: numb_thumb (3,000)
Bbuddy4brkfst posts the small blind of 80
Horo11 posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [6c 6d]
tk420919 folds
busto_soon raises to 400
armydoc80 folds
rocks on wrist calls 400
allosaur folds
slili11 folds
numb_thumb has 15 seconds left to act
numb_thumb raises to 1,000
Bbuddy4brkfst folds
Horo11 folds
busto_soon has 15 seconds left to act
busto_soon calls 600
rocks on wrist calls 600
*** FLOP *** [2s 9h 8h]
busto_soon checks
rocks on wrist bets 2,812, and is all in
numb_thumb folds
busto_soon calls 2,812

meh

Full Tilt Poker Game #1349604142: $40,000 Guarantee (8660102), Table 25 - 250/500 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:47:14 ET - 2006/12/03
Seat 1: calbears (9,086)
Seat 2: Horo11 (29,652)
Seat 3: kaahnaal (8,775)
Seat 4: busto_soon (13,092)
Seat 5: KneeCarrot (10,255)
Seat 6: brhlcommish (24,052)
Seat 7: AzFrank (4,045)
Seat 8: hawkur (13,601)
Seat 9: StegSteg (16,242)
calbears antes 50
Horo11 antes 50
kaahnaal antes 50
busto_soon antes 50
KneeCarrot antes 50
brhlcommish antes 50
AzFrank antes 50
hawkur antes 50
StegSteg antes 50
KneeCarrot posts the small blind of 250
brhlcommish posts the big blind of 500
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [Ah 9h]
AzFrank folds
hawkur folds
StegSteg folds
calbears folds
Horo11 folds
kaahnaal folds
busto_soon raises to 1,345
KneeCarrot folds
brhlcommish has 15 seconds left to act
brhlcommish calls 845
*** FLOP *** [Kd 6d 9s]
brhlcommish bets 2,000
busto_soon calls 2,000
*** TURN *** [Kd 6d 9s] [Jc]
brhlcommish bets 2,000
busto_soon calls 2,000
*** RIVER *** [Kd 6d 9s Jc] [3h]
brhlcommish bets 2,000
busto_soon calls 2,000

Obvious Ax?

Full Tilt Poker Game #1349692909: The $75,000 Mulligan (9162381), Table 30 - 800/1600 Ante 200 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:01:25 ET - 2006/12/03
Seat 1: kill4fun (81,317)
Seat 2: cjhubbard (101,225)
Seat 3: busto_soon (45,868)
Seat 4: hattrick8810 (75,248)
Seat 6: bigt439 (46,511)
Seat 7: chicagocards1 (16,209)
Seat 8: SIDEJOB15 (36,857)
Seat 9: muckypups (28,526)
kill4fun antes 200
cjhubbard antes 200
busto_soon antes 200
hattrick8810 antes 200
bigt439 antes 200
chicagocards1 antes 200
SIDEJOB15 antes 200
muckypups antes 200
chicagocards1 posts the small blind of 800
SIDEJOB15 posts the big blind of 1,600
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [8c 8s]
chicagocards1: nh
muckypups raises to 4,000
kill4fun folds
cjhubbard folds
busto_soon has 15 seconds left to act
busto_soon calls 4,000
hattrick8810 folds
bigt439 folds
chicagocards1 folds
SIDEJOB15 folds
*** FLOP *** [4c 2s 3s]
muckypups bets 24,326, and is all in
busto_soon calls 24,326

Originally Posted by johnny_fish

Originally Posted by chardrian

yes - way too fast. You have position and the nuts - why give him a chance to fold? Just call his reraise (after a little delay). Even check behind on the turn if he slows down. You can always pounce on the river.

Missed draws don't call river bets.

No, that's true but they do semi-bluff push turns and even occassionally bluff rivers. The whole point is you have position on a guy who almost always will do the betting for you on the turn - let him.

Originally Posted by johnny_fish

preflop call ok?

Full Tilt Poker Game #1349136738: $40,000 Guarantee (8660102), Table 25 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:33:21 ET - 2006/12/03
Seat 1: Bbuddy4brkfst (9,548)
Seat 2: Horo11 (3,430)
Seat 3: tk420919 (2,390)
Seat 4: busto_soon (4,920)
Seat 5: armydoc80 (9,475)
Seat 6: rocks on wrist (3,812)
Seat 7: allosaur (6,240)
Seat 8: slili11 (3,235)
Seat 9: numb_thumb (3,000)
Bbuddy4brkfst posts the small blind of 80
Horo11 posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [6c 6d]
tk420919 folds
busto_soon raises to 400
armydoc80 folds
rocks on wrist calls 400
allosaur folds
slili11 folds
numb_thumb has 15 seconds left to act
numb_thumb raises to 1,000
Bbuddy4brkfst folds
Horo11 folds
busto_soon has 15 seconds left to act
busto_soon calls 600
rocks on wrist calls 600
*** FLOP *** [2s 9h 8h]
busto_soon checks
rocks on wrist bets 2,812, and is all in
numb_thumb folds
busto_soon calls 2,812

barf hand.
I need reads to play it as you did. I prolly fold preflop. Then again a guy who is retarded enuff to raise 2.5x preflop which is 1/3 of his stack and then fold postflop is a guy who I would call against here.

Hey post some results for the curious folk here!

Originally Posted by jackvance

Hey post some results for the curious folk here!

KTo: instacall AA. fps meh.
KQo: fold fold.
66: fold, wtf?
KJ: Villain shows 22, wtf.
A9s: bb called with AKo.
AQo: TT tanks and calls.
66: villain shows AhJh and mhig.
A9s: mhig, I think it was 98.
88: QQ 3rd leveled me!

funny hand, I think river is close.

Hand #37486771-9 at Thu2pm10K-004 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
Started at 07/Dec/06 14:08:34

JIMMYTHEKID10 is at seat 0 with 2480.
Ellen Mikey is at seat 1 with 2455.
rbeckwith is at seat 2 with 2530.
busto_soon is at seat 3 with 2275.
KidKooler is at seat 4 with 2820.
mandevilla is at seat 5 with 2515.
MTTwelfare is at seat 6 with 2440.
alwysbluffin1 is at seat 7 with 2485.
DirtyDrewJ5 is at seat 8 with 2515.
HIGH SOCIETY is at seat 9 with 2485.
The button is at seat 2.

busto_soon posts the small blind of 5.
KidKooler posts the big blind of 10.

JIMMYTHEKID10: -- --
Ellen Mikey: -- --
rbeckwith: -- --
busto_soon: Kd Kh
KidKooler: -- --
mandevilla: -- --
MTTwelfare: -- --
alwysbluffin1: -- --
DirtyDrewJ5: -- --
HIGH SOCIETY: -- --

Pre-flop:

mandevilla folds. MTTwelfare folds. alwysbluffin1
folds. DirtyDrewJ5 raises to 50. HIGH SOCIETY
folds. JIMMYTHEKID10 folds. Ellen Mikey folds.
rbeckwith folds. busto_soon re-raises to 185.
KidKooler folds. DirtyDrewJ5 calls.

Flop (board: Jc Ah 7c):

busto_soon checks. DirtyDrewJ5 checks.

Turn (board: Jc Ah 7c 2h):

busto_soon checks. DirtyDrewJ5 checks.

River (board: Jc Ah 7c 2h Ks):

busto_soon checks. DirtyDrewJ5 checks.



Showdown:

busto_soon shows Kd Kh.
busto_soon has Kd Kh Jc Ah Ks: three kings.
DirtyDrewJ5 mucks cards.
(DirtyDrewJ5 has Qd Qs.)


Hand #37486771-9 Summary:

No rake is taken for this hand.
busto_soon wins 380 with three kings.

yeah, QQ (TT?) is like the only hand he can have that might pay river that won't bet, if he's been weirdly slow playing a set or AJ/AK he'll probably even call the CR.

Some of these seem like spews. Like the 432 hand where u had AA. Could it not bet the guy just saying 5 and underpairs please call me off? Even if you are ahead at best u are barely a favorite, with strong draws you are not favored.

Crying call with 2nd nuts lol, stupid 20$ donk..

***** Hand History for Game 5488610692 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny: 30673173 Level: 4 Blinds(100/200) - Thursday, December 07, 15:07:01 ET 2006
Table Rebuy (890953) Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: johnny2912 ( 19090 )
Seat 3: weeman121 ( 2070 )
Seat 4: fefarrzz ( 9950 )
Seat 5: sohnuku ( 10930 )
Seat 6: kelt56 ( 14378 )
Seat 8: Haggers_86 ( 4417 )
Seat 9: stali_79 ( 10345 )
Trny: 30673173 Level: 4
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to johnny2912 [ Jc Js ]
Haggers_86 folds
stali_79 folds
johnny2912 raises [600]
weeman121 folds
fefarrzz folds
sohnuku raises [1900]
kelt56 folds
johnny2912 calls [1400]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kh, 4s, Jd ]
sohnuku checks
johnny2912 bets [2000]
sohnuku raises [4000]
johnny2912 calls [2000]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2h ]
sohnuku is all-In [4930]
johnny2912 calls [4930]
** Dealing River ** [ As ]
sohnuku shows [ Ks, Kc ]three of a kind, Kings.
johnny2912 shows [ Jc, Js ]three of a kind, Jacks.
sohnuku wins 22060 chips from the main pot with three of a kind, Kings.