JJ tricky spot PF as well on the flop

Line taken preflop as well as on the flop?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 4.4 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds 10 Ante (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 (t1845)
MP3 (t14937)
CO (t4873)
Button (t2025)
Hero (SB) (t5060)
BB (t2990)
UTG (t4065)
UTG+1 (t3290)
MP1 (t13832)

Hero's M: 21.08

Preflop: Hero is SB with J, J
UTG calls t100, 3 folds, MP3 bets t200, CO raises to t600, 1 fold, Hero calls t550, BB calls t500, 1 fold, MP3 calls t400

Flop: (t2590) 10, 4, 3 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP3 bets t100, CO raises to t1700, [color=#666666][i]Hero?

shove pre mostly, fold pre rarely, call pre never. It's 30% of your stack. Cant fold flop either.

Where you see that 30%

Originally Posted by dombo

Where you see that 30%

wow, sorry im retarded, i was tired last night and I guess thought you only had 2k stack. Now its def a hand worth talking about.

call pre seems fine I guess, mostly cause every other option sucks. You can sometimes fold and not tell anyone about it, but 4bet/getting it in is usually gonna be borderline at best without a decent read.

postflop sucks. again, you can prolly fold and not tell anyone, but barring reads swaying me one way or the other im usually fine stacking off here.

so there's no reads on any of the players?

without reads, I like call pf and call flop

Originally Posted by donkbee

so there's no reads on any of the players?

without reads, I like call pf and call flop

if you changed the buyin from big 4.40 to big 55 i'd def like calling flop more then raising. I just tend to gambol more with idiots in a 4.40

Hand is still in my head lol for a $4.40 indeed and won't tell you guys what I did

Just quietly fold pre and pretend it never happened. Guess now we've seen the flop, call, but I hate it. I fold pre because flop action is always going to suck vs this many villains in a 3bet pot.

i could fold or call pre depending on reads, i probably fold flop though.

Originally Posted by dombo

Hand is still in my head lol for a $4.40 indeed and won't tell you guys what I did

I sigh fold flop & type in chat to friends on SKype a different hand than I actually had.
I'd play this the same as you did here (call pre > fold flop)... but can see what others are saying with it being the $4.40 where you can factor in a fair bit spazz factor for villain (toss in a bit of > "wtf are they thinking there? .... are they even f'n thinking???")
Folding w 45bb's and likely a bunch of tards on the table seems fine.

Some unusual action preflop. I don't know if I'm ready to risk 6BB out of postion for set mining. I fold preflop.