JJ line? $8.80

villan was 6/3 over 36 hands, was his first 3 bet. should i just fold to the 3 bet

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NL Holdem $40(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($3,220)
BB ($5,347)
UTG ($3,165)
UTG+1 ($3,472)
Hero ($3,035)
MP1 ($3,345)
CO ($2,496)
BTN ($2,910)

Dealt to Hero J J

fold, fold, Hero raises to $111, fold, fold, BTN raises to $300, fold, fold, Hero calls $189

FLOP ($660) 8 5 2

Hero checks, BTN bets $340, Hero calls $340

TURN ($1,340) 8 5 2 4

Hero checks, BTN bets $680, Hero folds

The turn is basically a blank. The only hands I see him having are JJ+ AQ+. I would of folded as well because he is repping a high pp, but he could also be betting with a semi-bluff (AK, AQ of hearts OR diamonds). He also has position on you and with a lot of scare cards able to come out on the river, you almost have to fold the turn bet.

yeah fold pre

Originally Posted by baudib

yeah fold pre

Just curious for my learning, but what if this was his third or fourth time 3-betting, would you have made a check/shove on the turn? (Maybe considering a semi-bluff was trying to take it?)

then we shove pre.

Would you ever consider 4-betting if this was the third for fouth time, then shoving the flop? (Also the 4-bet I was considering is maybe 900 to 1k)

It's a lame spot, not sure 36 hands is enough to fold pre. I think your line is fine, folding pre or on flop seems OK also.

When he's folded 34 of 36 hands, I feel like he's earned our 111 chips. We will get it back when he folds like 95% when we raising ATC from CO.

I wouldn't fold preflop. I'd play it the same way probably.

Against someone who we are leaning towards believing is a super nit we definitely have the implied odds to call pre with any pair here since we our chances of stacking off when we bink our set will be so high. I don't hate your call on the flop but like a fold a little better methinks.

I agree here. I have no problem with playing JJ like a small pair here. I probably call on the flop too, not sure if that's better than folding. Being oop sucks because even nits will probably fire again on that board with AQ/AK/99+ when checked to on the turn.

Originally Posted by chardrian

Against someone who we are leaning towards believing is a super nit we definitely have the implied odds to call pre with any pair here since we our chances of stacking off when we bink our set will be so high. I don't hate your call on the flop but like a fold a little better methinks.

I know what you're saying but calling 190 to win ~$3,300ish is meh, especially when we're calling flop/folding turn so often like this spot.

If you think he has {AA} I would guess it's worth set mining, QQ-AA no way.

thanks all,