Huge pot...

I am 2nd in chips, we are ITM with about 17 left in this small $20 freezout, and I am vs the chipleader. He has played good, stealing lots, running 24/19. Can I find a fold here? At what point is +EV overtaken by +$EV?

PokerStars Game #13537112357: Tournament #68053046, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2007/11/29 - 04:44:06 (ET)
Table '68053046 17' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: ChristaBorg (36474 in chips)
Seat 3: cmpoker1969 (6115 in chips)
Seat 5: RoryClan83 (8697 in chips)
Seat 7: ICuRaRook (40247 in chips)
Seat 8: luisfran (5991 in chips)
Seat 9: CASHDIAMOND (23340 in chips)
ChristaBorg: posts the ante 75
cmpoker1969: posts the ante 75
RoryClan83: posts the ante 75
ICuRaRook: posts the ante 75
luisfran: posts the ante 75
CASHDIAMOND: posts the ante 75
CASHDIAMOND: posts small blind 400
ChristaBorg: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChristaBorg [Qd Ad]
cmpoker1969: folds
RoryClan83: folds
ICuRaRook: raises 1275 to 2075
luisfran: folds
CASHDIAMOND: folds
ChristaBorg: calls 1275
*** FLOP *** [Td Kd Qc]
ChristaBorg: checks
ICuRaRook: bets 2975
ChristaBorg: raises 7425 to 10400
ICuRaRook: raises 22355 to 32755
ChristaBorg Cries and ??


-Chris

If he has been raising a lot, I would have reraised like 4x his raise. If he 4 bet, then I think that you have to let it go unless you know that he is capable of doing this with a wide range.

You have a monster draw. As played, I like the check raise. You are a favorite against his range so calling off your stack to get a monster stack is +EV here if you want to win IMO. If you put him on the tightest of range like QQ+ and TT, you are a 60/40 dog. You're a flip if he has a range of J9o, J9s TT+, AKs, AKo. In the heat of battle, I take this chance.

calls, pair + nut flush draw + guttie + overcard. Maybe you are up against a set but there is too much in the pot now...

Reraise pre and call the push.

If he 4 bet, then I think that you have to let it go unless you know that he is capable of doing this with a wide range.

That's horrible, do that with 93o.

As played, it's fine to get it in but I like a c/c better. You're wa/wb.

Also think about what is his range for betting this flop? Do you think he'll bet AK/AA/AQ/QJ etc?

In other words, if you c/r the flop you either

-play a huge 40-50% pot vs 2p+
- pick up the small pot against a hand that you had crushed anyway.

Originally Posted by johnny_fish

Reraise pre and call the push.

If he 4 bet, then I think that you have to let it go unless you know that he is capable of doing this with a wide range.

That's horrible, do that with 93o.

As played, it's fine to get it in but I like a c/c better. You're wa/wb.

Yeah, um, but what I meant was, um..........my head's a candy shell.

I play the hand way different.

I reraise pre. And if I hadn't, I lead that flop.

As played, you have to get it all-in.

Originally Posted by chardrian

I play the hand way different.

I reraise pre. And if I hadn't, I lead that flop.

As played, you have to get it all-in.

When the hell did I start playing like you, char? Jeeze - given the year you've had, maybe I need to return to MTTs.

PF call is not that bad, basically the only pre-flop line I hate here is one that involves folding. I hope you sucked out on him and he whined in the table chat like he always does.

Originally Posted by mcatdog

PF call is not that bad, basically the only pre-flop line I hate here is one that involves folding. I hope you sucked out on him and he whined in the table chat like he always does.

I won the tourney n he did exactly that, railing me until the end lol. Thanks guys.

-Chris

no matter what he had it wasnt that much of a sucky sucky

you mention he's stealing lots. I don't want his wide range to see flops easily. I reraise AQs here every time, big enough to make him fold or make a big mistake in calling, or if he shoves we're going with it.

Flop is no decision, open shove/call shove.