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  1. #1

    Default Help me with a few mid to late game decisions

    Still being new to large field MTT's I am trying to figure out standard play in certain situations so I am going to post a few hands/situations from a $11 MTT (1,377 players and everyone started with 3K in chips)to see how the regs play these sorts of hands.

    Hand 1 - UTG+1 had only been at the table for a few hands so no reads. CO was running about 42/10/4.3 but seemed to be positionally aware and I hadn't seen him get out of line on any hands.

    No Limit Holdem Tournament
    $10+$1
    9 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG (41998)
    UTG+1 (17835)
    MP1 (15585)
    MP2 (35310)
    MP3 (12493)
    CO (36839)
    BTN (31482)
    Hero (SB) (29265)
    BB (10653)

    Blinds: 500/1000 Ante 125

    Pre-flop: (2,625, 9 players) Hero is SB
    1 fold, UTG+1 raises to 4,000, 3 folds, CO calls 4,000, 1 fold, 3,500 to Hero (28,765)?

    Hand 2 - Several questions here.

    Pre-Flop - I am assuming opening here is ok if everybody behind me is playing pretty tight (which they were) but should I be raising more? My standard raise at these levels and with normal to large stack sizes is 2.5BB.

    Flop - Both players were pretty tight, but not over a relevant sample size. Is the bet size ok and do you call the shove (I am thinking a grit my teeth sorta call here).


    No Limit Holdem Tournament
    $10+$1
    8 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG (46460)
    UTG+1 (40571)
    MP1 (67198)
    Hero (MP2) (37415)
    CO (51580)
    BTN (18705)
    SB (15060)
    BB (14210)

    Blinds: 750/1500 Ante 175

    Pre-flop: (3,650, 8 players) Hero is MP2
    3 folds, Hero raises to 3,700, 1 fold, BTN calls 3,700, 1 fold, BB calls 2,200

    Flop: (13,250, 3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 7,500, BTN goes all-in 14,830, BB folds, 7,330 to Hero (26,215)?

    Hand 3 - Villain was a fairly solid Taggish player. What sort of hands do you call with here and do you only 3bet big, value type hands?

    No Limit Holdem Tournament
    $10+$1
    9 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG (51780)
    UTG+1 (57100)
    MP1 (28210)
    MP2 (3660)
    MP3 (32210)
    CO (36471)
    BTN (72743)
    SB (64098)
    Hero (BB) (60695)

    Blinds: 1000/2000 Ante 250

    Pre-flop: (5,250, 9 players) Hero is BB
    7 folds, SB raises to 5,000, 3,000 to Hero (58,695)?

    Hand 4 - Assuming an average table do you generally drop these pre-flop from early to mid position? How big, if any, of a c-bet do you make here against the big stack?

    No Limit Holdem Tournament
    $10+$1
    8 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG (71293)
    UTG+1 (97468)
    Hero (MP1) (41135)
    MP2 (19520)
    CO (51900)
    BTN (56220)
    SB (34410)
    BB (35021)

    Blinds: 1250/2500 Ante 300

    Pre-flop: (6,150, 8 players) Hero is MP1
    2 folds, Hero raises to 6,200, 1 fold, CO calls 6,200, 3 folds

    Flop: (18,550, 2 players)
    Hero (34,935)?

    Hand 5 - same villain as hand 3.

    No Limit Holdem Tournament
    $10+$1
    9 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG (73157)
    Hero (UTG+1) (28260)
    MP1 (43415)
    MP2 (101735)
    MP3 (9615)
    CO (133240)
    BTN (25735)
    SB (33277)
    BB (64618)

    Blinds: 1500/3000 Ante 375

    Pre-flop: (7,875, 9 players) Hero is UTG+1
    UTG calls 3,000, Hero (28,260)?
    Poker is easy, it's winning at poker that's hard.
  2. #2
    1 - just don't resteal vs. 4x raises from early position. this is almost always a bad player with a hand he really likes but he's afraid of seeing a flop.

    2 - come on now (and preflop is fine).

    3 - standard call and outplay him on the flop. my general plan is to just call the c-bet if i flop a pair, but if the flop is 7 high or gives me a flush draw i'd raise small and get it in. i would also small raise his c-bet as a bluff a decent percentage of the time. if you feel the need to 3-bet bluff vs. this player, do it with hand that don't have as much value as j7s in position.

    4 - probably fold preflop, definitely check-fold flop.

    5 - fold. don't get too out of control when a "fairly solid, taggish player" limps utg and you haven't seen him open limp before. if you have seen him open limp before then remove him from your list of fairly solid, taggish players.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by mcatdog
    1 - just don't resteal vs. 4x raises from early position. this is almost always a bad player with a hand he really likes but he's afraid of seeing a flop.
    so I am guessing you fold here. Would you call the raise if you were on the btn? limp behind here if it were limped to you? I am thinking yes to both of these based on our stack size.

    Quote Originally Posted by mcatdog
    2 - come on now (and preflop is fine).
    Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything. I called, villain had 8s9s and my hand held up.

    Quote Originally Posted by mcatdog
    3 - standard call and outplay him on the flop. my general plan is to just call the c-bet if i flop a pair, but if the flop is 7 high or gives me a flush draw i'd raise small and get it in. i would also small raise his c-bet as a bluff a decent percentage of the time. if you feel the need to 3-bet bluff vs. this player, do it with hand that don't have as much value as j7s in position.
    agree on the 3bet bluff so I called and an interesting board hit.

    Pre-flop: (5,250, 9 players) Hero is BB
    7 folds, SB raises to 5,000, Hero calls 3,000

    Flop: (12,250, 2 players)
    SB bets 4,000, 4,000 to Hero (55,695)?


    We now have a gutterball and the flop should hit a decent part of our pre calling range. Is this the type of board that you would bluff raise with? If so, how much do you raise here?

    Quote Originally Posted by mcatdog
    4 - probably fold preflop, definitely check-fold flop.
    what is your PP raising range here? 88+?

    Btw, I check/folded

    Quote Originally Posted by mcatdog
    5 - fold. don't get too out of control when a "fairly solid, taggish player" limps utg and you haven't seen him open limp before. if you have seen him open limp before then remove him from your list of fairly solid, taggish players.
    I hadn't and that should have sent off huge alarms. Unfortunately I didn't hear them and shoved. He had AKo
    Poker is easy, it's winning at poker that's hard.
  4. #4
    Hand 1 is definitely a fold, for the reasons mcat covered, but also because the BB shoves it in here A LOT and thus the pot is going to become way too big for anyone to fold regardless of what you do.

    Hand 2: Instacall

    Hand 3: Calling is fine/standard imo.

    Hand 4: Just fold unless table is unusually tight. Flop is awful so c/f

    Hand 5: Meh, fold preflop
    Playing big pots at small stakes.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH
    so I am guessing you fold here. Would you call the raise if you were on the btn?
    No? He raised to 4K and his stack is 17K, I wouldn't call with any hand. If he limps then sure you can complete.

    We now have a gutterball and the flop should hit a decent part of our pre calling range. Is this the type of board that you would bluff raise with? If so, how much do you raise here?
    This really depends whether villain is good enough to know this is a bad board to c-bet with air. If he's going to blindly fire away with his A5 then raising is good, but chances are I'd just call this dumb little bet and be prepared to bluff the turn or the river if I felt it was warranted.

    what is your PP raising range here? 88+?
    Well I like to play a lot of pots so I'd probably raise 77, but any lower than that and it gets dicey.

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