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    Default Gutter SFD vs idiot

    PokerStars Hand #74484650735: Tournament #557010673, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (350/700) - 2012/01/25 16:38:25 PT [2012/01/25 19:38:25 ET]
    Table '557010673 64' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: ChristaBorg (26157 in chips)
    Seat 2: vitold78 (37500 in chips)
    Seat 3: MissBallack (42070 in chips)
    Seat 4: Milankooo (51886 in chips)
    Seat 6: Skipper-dawn (41267 in chips)
    Seat 7: JackMcShane8 (8441 in chips)
    Seat 8: fullPower160 (21547 in chips)
    Seat 9: AcePres (20640 in chips)
    ChristaBorg: posts the ante 85
    vitold78: posts the ante 85
    MissBallack: posts the ante 85
    Milankooo: posts the ante 85
    Skipper-dawn: posts the ante 85
    JackMcShane8: posts the ante 85
    fullPower160: posts the ante 85
    AcePres: posts the ante 85
    AcePres: posts small blind 350
    ChristaBorg: posts big blind 700
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to ChristaBorg [8s 7s]
    vitold78: raises 700 to 1400
    MissBallack: calls 1400
    Milankooo: calls 1400
    Skipper-dawn: folds
    JackMcShane8: folds
    fullPower160: folds
    AcePres: folds
    jmorizaola is connected
    ChristaBorg: calls 700
    *** FLOP *** [3c 6s Ts]
    ChristaBorg: checks
    vitold78: checks
    MissBallack: checks
    Milankooo: bets 6630
    ChristaBorg:


    It's the $5 Quad, and the flop bet is exactly pot fwiw, villian is also terrible but not really "pot-bet-nothing" terrible. He's 51/9 over 76 hands with a 41% flop bet.

    My standard move here is to not really care about stacks and just get it in and gamble for a pot with what I think is zero-ish FE, but curious to hear others' opinions/reasonings if they disagree.
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    If you are getting it in here, are you not better flatting and open shoving any turn(except 9s) so that you gain some FE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gingerwizard View Post
    If you are getting it in here, are you not better flatting and open shoving any turn(except 9s) so that you gain some FE?
    I like this plan, if you are going to get it in anyway. You are probably better off flatting and betting something less than AI on the turn.
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    what they said, also flatting lets you see if the rest of the table goes crazy in which case your FD is probably no good. maybe you could get a better draw to fold if you jam but I doubt it.
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    I actually think you do have some FE so a shove isn't so bad, but I like the delayed stop'n'go better.
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    Hmm my first instinct was shove, but call flop and shove turn does seem kind of cool since I could imagine him calling AK to a shove but not a turn shove.

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