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  1. #1

    Default Good Fold? Do You Think So?

    I've been wondering about this because I really think it was a good fold. I couldn't put the villain on something I could beat. But, I did fold kings OTF.

    $100 GTD Deepstack Turbo - $1 + $0.1 -- 9 Max -- 20/125/250 Blinds -- 9 Players

    MP2 - 8,940
    HJ - 11,182
    CO - 8,825
    BTN - 6,145
    SB - 5,979
    BB - 7,105
    UTG - 3,214
    UTG+1 - 10,645
    MP (Hero) - 7,571

    Pot is 555

    Dealt to Hero K, K

    UTG calls 250, UTG+1 calls 250, Hero raises to 1,250, MP2 calls 1,250, five folds, UTG calls 1,000, one fold

    Pot is 4555

    At this point, I'm more worried about MP2 than UTG. I'm really wondering what would flat my raise there. I grant I don't have reads on the villain (a leak I need to work on).

    *** FLOP *** A, A, 7

    UTG checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets 2,278

    I decided to check because any reasonable size bet would be called/raised by an ace. I felt a shove was best, but a shove would be called by an ace and not two clubs. Although there's two out there, MP2 could have easily flatted behind with an ace.

    MP2's bet really confused me. Since I had the K and the A was on the board, I was pretty sure he didn't have two clubs. Two clubs is the only hand I'm solid against here, although his hand prices in a club draw and that also baffled me. I couldn't see the villain flatting behind pre with QQ, JJ, 10s, or with QJ of clubs, all of which would be worth betting IP on this flop.

    My best guess was that the villain had AQ or AJ, but that didn't feel right either, although I couldn't put him on anything else (or anything I could beat). I think I made a good fold, but I couldn't stop thinking about this hand since I was really confused throughout the whole thing.

    In hindsight, he could have had 77. This makes sense to flat pre given the size of my raise, and would also make sense with the flop bet. However, I didn't think of this until well after the hand was over.
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by agnesamurphy View Post
    At this point, I'm more worried about MP2 than UTG. I'm really wondering what would flat my raise there. I grant I don't have reads on the villain (a leak I need to work on).
    PAY ATTENTION DAMMIT! lol

    Without reads MP's flat could be anything but by default if someone hasn't made themselves obvious you can assign them a tight-ish range and go from there. Weight their range towards low-mid pocket pairs, but at these stakes Axs and broadways are also in there a lot. As you pointed out, there are a lot less combos of Ax out there when two hit the flop.

    MP could have been stabbing. It's a weak bet into a scary flop and he's in prime position to TID after you checked. As for what button to click OTF... I'd use my reads here but in a vacuum it's probably a sigh fold, you're OOP so you can't control the pot size and although you have the best hand here sometimes, we have to assume hero has a lot of edge at the $1 stakes and can pick a much happier spot later on to push her chips in with.
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  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    PAY ATTENTION DAMMIT!
    My attention hasn't been focused on the game the past couple times I played. I need to do better so that I'm focused all the time.
  4. #4
    With 2 aces on the flop, that lowers that chance your opponent has an ace. I'm putting in a continuation bet myself... I want to represent the Ace.

    With you check now if he has the ace or if he is just representing.

    He made a pretty bad call preflop if he had AQ or AJ... any lower Ace and it was horrid.
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  5. #5
    Why do you want to rep the ace, if you rep the ace you turn kings into a bluff making everything worse fold and everything better call. Not a good idea
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal View Post
    Why do you want to rep the ace, if you rep the ace you turn kings into a bluff making everything worse fold and everything better call. Not a good idea
    I'm a little confused on what you're trying to say. Repping the ace is bad because it turns the kings into a bluff, so calling is better?
  7. #7
    Was more a reply to jaxpaboo than anything aimed at you.

    Whatever I'm doing, I'm not folding flop. I'd call v MP with a plan to call it down given he's last to act
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal View Post
    Was more a reply to jaxpaboo than anything aimed at you.

    Whatever I'm doing, I'm not folding flop. I'd call v MP with a plan to call it down given he's last to act
    Despite my previous post I really don't mind calling down but you're committing as soon as you call that flop bet, so it's all about whether you want to stack here and you have to decide now, not on the turn/river.
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