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    Default Final table I think I played QQ poorly

    Merge - $1+$0.1|<> NL - Holdem - 8 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    Blinds are at 2,000-4,000

    Hero (UTG+1): 39.71 BB
    MP: 18.07 BB (VPIP: 28.30, PFR: 20.20, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 113)
    MP+1: 35.7 BB (VPIP: 25.71, PFR: 20.29, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 71)
    CO: 50.7 BB (VPIP: 36.21, PFR: 25.86, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 59)
    BTN: 19.6 BB (VPIP: 33.87, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 62)
    SB: 19.6 BB (VPIP: 20.34, PFR: 8.93, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 61)
    BB: 141.72 BB (VPIP: 63.16, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
    UTG: 36.14 BB (VPIP: 17.89, PFR: 8.51, 3Bet Preflop: 4.29, Hands: 190)

    8 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 2.3 BB) Hero has Q Q

    fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, MP+1 calls 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB, BTN calls 2 BB, fold, BB raises to 7.5 BB, Hero raises to 39.61 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 32.11


    ok so thoughts/comments on this line? As I stated in the post this is at a final table. should I just fold here to the 3-bet since there are 3 players shorter that me, or just flat and play post? I jammed here, bc even though I only have 20 hands on this player, his stats seem to point towards fishy, and I had seen him showdown a few times with junk.
  2. #2
    Shoving is fine, im sorry you lost.
  3. #3
    Normally I think you have to many BBs to put your tour on risk, but with your reads, it seems to be a fine move.

    What did he have?
    The Time To Act Is Now...
  4. #4
    I'm never folding QQ in this spot with your reads and the 63/11 stats at a $1 tourney. Never.
    Last edited by taipan168; 02-07-2014 at 08:31 AM.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by PokerKing View Post
    What did he have?
    He turned over KK

    taipan168 I agree with your statement, I have been thinking about this most of the day, and I believe even if I had of just called his 3-bet, the flop and turn both were all low cards, and given my read on this guy I would of still ended up getting it all in by then ne ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168 View Post
    I'm never folding QQ in this spot with your reads and he 63/11 stats at a $1 tourney. Never.
    100% agree
  7. #7
    Your line is correct, you could do a 4bet to induce but maybe the best line is 4bet shove with your stack.
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    Only thing I would have done different is raised more from early position. I would have bet 3BB or pot but it is a bit irrelevent becuase the outcome would have been the same. I am always calling in that position at that stage of the tourney. Unlucky.
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  9. #9
    Snap shove. He could be trying to squeeze people out and there is only 2 hands your really afraid of. Unfortunate outcome.
  10. #10
    Folding this would be outrageously bad. QQ is gonna run into bigger pairs sometimes, but against a 63/11 microdonk you're good a lot more often than not. I shove this happily, and even find myself amused when I lose, because it's so fucking rare against this guy.
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  11. #11
    even low cards on the flop. this hand so far in . I would want to see the flop, but the results the same
  12. #12
    With those readings... even I... would shove :P
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    I never fold QQ here.
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    You played well. I've read some article where it said that if you have cards like AA,KK,QQ,AK than always raise or go all-in.
    I always play like that, and in this hand you played the same. So for my oppinion you played well, only you didn't have very luck.
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    Defenitely not agree with the comment on the potraise pre and also not with the comment where people say if I would only have called the 3bet preflop, I would have had the same result so 4betshoving here or calling doesn't matter. LOL

    Would have 4bet here as well.

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