Completely lost..

..on all streets.

Ftops 1k 6max, nowa has 288$ avg buyin over a small sample, probably a cash game regular? Boosted J pwns high stakes cash.

Enlighten me please.

Full Tilt Poker Game #5219275671: FTOPS Event #10 (35826773), Table 105 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:38:29 ET - 2008/02/11
Seat 1: nowa1 (7,010)
Seat 2: Boosted J (8,020)
Seat 3: nWo 4fe (4,970)
Seat 4: busto_soon (4,095)
Seat 5: boNeZee (3,535)
Seat 6: TheStein (2,370)
Boosted J posts the small blind of 25
nWo 4fe posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [7c Tc]
busto_soon raises to 175
boNeZee folds
TheStein folds
nowa1 has 15 seconds left to act
nowa1 calls 175
Boosted J calls 150
nWo 4fe folds
*** FLOP *** [Td Kd 3s]
Boosted J checks
busto_soon checks
nowa1 bets 350
Boosted J calls 350
busto_soon has 15 seconds left to act
busto_soon calls 350
*** TURN *** [Td Kd 3s] [7h]
Boosted J checks
busto_soon checks
nowa1 has 15 seconds left to act
nowa1 has requested TIME
nowa1 bets 1,250
Boosted J has 15 seconds left to act
Boosted J calls 1,250
busto_soon has 15 seconds left to act
busto_soon has requested TIME
busto_soon calls 1,250
*** RIVER *** [Td Kd 3s 7h] [2s]
Boosted J checks
busto_soon has 15 seconds left to act
busto_soon checks
nowa1 has 15 seconds left to act
nowa1 bets 5,235, and is all in
Boosted J has 15 seconds left to act
Boosted J has requested TIME
Boosted J folds
busto_soon has 15 seconds left to act
busto_soon has requested TIME
busto_soon calls 2,320, and is all in

I think I would just give up on the flop, seems like both guys are capable of pressuring you too much+board will get worse often.

I like river call.

I'm also lost on turn, all lines seem bad.

why is raising the turn bad?

Originally Posted by cobere

why is raising the turn bad?

Because I felt beat and basically was hoping for a bad river?

Nah, I don't know, maybe c/r ai is better than call turn/ call river.

I think I might check, find a fold after two stay in on that flop.

After calling flop, I think I would have to get it all-in on that turn (otherwise there was no point in calling flop).

Personally, I fold the flop. As played I get it all in on the turn. Therefore, taking away any tough decision on the river.

Originally Posted by cobere

why is raising the turn bad?

Because we really have about the worst hand we can have to raise.

Nowal led into two people twice, including pre flop raiser, so you'd think his range is something like AK(although no re raise pre) , KQ (??) + KT + sets. We could hope they are both on flush draws - maybe QJdd and Axdd. For sure we assume one is, and given river we know Boosted was. they may a pair to go with it.

But again, since we know they are both at least drawing to a better two pair to beat us, c/c also seems meh and c/r has both problems. The good thing about c/r is if we do have the best hand we should get called, whereas TP should fold if we lead out.

Is raising the flop a no? Or even a check raise?