Am I losing out on too much value? lc

PokerStars Game #19652861676: Tournament #102424887, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/08/16 - 02:18:46 (ET)
Table '102424887 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: jimdots (1480 in chips)
Seat 2: RobertNevil (230 in chips)
Seat 3: stanbros (1430 in chips)
Seat 4: Majin Legacy (1480 in chips)
Seat 5: drklrdbill (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: MtnFisherman (2920 in chips)
Seat 7: vbholdem (1480 in chips)
Seat 8: jimbot1030 (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: sniperjtubbs (1500 in chips)
Majin Legacy: posts small blind 10
drklrdbill: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Majin Legacy [Qs Qh]
MtnFisherman: folds
vbholdem: folds
jimbot1030: calls 20
sniperjtubbs: folds
jimdots: calls 20
RobertNevil: calls 20
stanbros: folds
Majin Legacy: raises 100 to 120
drklrdbill: folds
jimbot1030: calls 100
jimdots: folds
RobertNevil: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qc 8c 7c]
Majin Legacy: bets 260
jimbot1030: calls 260
*** TURN *** [Qc 8c 7c] [4h]
Majin Legacy: bets 1100 and is all-in

Only hands in his range we are worried about is Acx or Kcx and of course JcTc etc. his call on the flop looks like Acx and Kcx more often than not.

So it looks like you bet enough to take away his pot odds to draw. I probably take a similar line.

However $20 sngs are out of my range

Your point was should you be betting less on the turn or possibly checking the turn I assume.

I think shoving the turn is more standard, but if you feel comfortable in giving villain a free or cheap card, go for it. You probably could extract an extra 300 chips from him with that sized bet if he has the naked ace, but it surely would suck balls if the club came on the river.

Why not make a more normal bet like 500 or so then get the rest in on the river?

Well, I could bet 500, but if a club falls, I freeze. If he can call my river shove on a blank, he'll probably call the turn shove anyway. My line looks like bullshit sometimes too and I may be called down lightly.

Originally Posted by mxiu

Well, I could bet 500, but if a club falls, I freeze.

Not a good reason to shove, 500 is plenty to price him out

Originally Posted by mxiu

If he can call my river shove on a blank, he'll probably call the turn shove anyway. My line looks like bullshit sometimes too and I may be called down lightly.

This is a good reason to shove - if you believe that he'll call because he thinks you're FOS.

Betting 500 there gives villian 2.64/1, which is not good enough drawing odds. But if you consider the implied odds (he gets the rest of your chips if he hits the river), it's really not that bad. I mean, shoving with top set here is never going to be a bad play...but I'd rather fire out 650 and never fold after that

Normally I would fire 600-700 here, but if I do that I figure I might as well shove? If they're going to pay outside of their odds for a flush draw - and they're not calling if the river comes a blank, why not just shove?

over bet the flop so you can shove turn easier.

I like the shove as played, 500 just lets him decide how much he wants to play for