88 19bb mp mid tourney

Assume we're new to the table.

Preflop sizing?
Under what circumstances would we fold this?
Flop sizing?

$10+$1|300/600 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: 7,000.00
SB: 11,143.00
BB: 16,007.00
UTG: 1,542.00
UTG+1: 9,199.00
Hero (MP): 11,190.00
MP+1: 12,895.00
LP: 33,066.00
CO: 15,561.00

BTN posts ante 60.00, SB posts ante 60.00, BB posts ante 60.00, UTG posts ante 60.00, UTG+1 posts ante 60.00, Hero posts ante 60.00, MP+1 posts ante 60.00, LP posts ante 60.00, CO posts ante 60.00, SB posts SB 300.00, BB posts BB 600.00

Pre Flop: (1440.00) Hero has 8 8

fold, fold, Hero raises to 1,200.00, fold, fold, CO calls 1,200.00, fold, fold, BB calls 600.00

Flop: (4440.00, 3 players) 4 7 6
BB checks

Pre-flop min-raise is fine if it's your standard open at these blinds- healthy c-bet,say 3200: if called by both players and overcard or club on turn and they start getting giddy I might fold but otherwise I think I'm getting my chips in, but that's just me and I WILL be ripped to shreds and proven to be wrong.

I would, and do shove preflop in that situation. That can't be too far wrong can it?

"M" is less than 8 with the blinds coming up quick. We get max F/E and the slight bonus of a 20% chance to hit another 8. Also a 55% favorite vs. AQo and not having to play a middle pair post flop.

I could fold 66 but probably just cram the 88.

min raise cannot be bad either, but I prefer to shove ~99-TT here along with smaller pairs, maybe AT. then min raising with broadways + premiums since you will have more options post flopping overs, second pair etc.

I weirdly like a flop shove now that we are here. There are roughly 1 million hands that can call/shove the flop and you are going to hate every turn, even some good ones. I think 7x will still call but now you don't have to guess, and if they have something like 46/7 they don't get to fold on a turn 7/6. if you get a combo draw to fold then it's a bonus.

Your min raise makes you look weak , even though u have a medium pair I would be making it a bit more ! On the flop u just want the pot , make them fold !

1350 pre, as played on flop 2750-3250.

i like pre, i like shoving flop too.

i like the min raise, but think you need to be prepared to fold to resteal