4 hands of 1k Monte Carlo sat

1) quzzo is solid (step 6 regular)

PokerStars Game #13584528476: Tournament #68069817, $1000+$50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/12/01 - 14:19:18 (ET)
Table '68069817 4' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: quzzo (4035 in chips)
Seat 2: Znam (1085 in chips)
Seat 3: busto_soon (6535 in chips)
Seat 4: luetch1 (6625 in chips)
Seat 5: blecram (2985 in chips)
Seat 6: Henri Henri (9130 in chips)
Seat 7: seanj66 (7240 in chips)
Seat 8: calamitas (3105 in chips)
Seat 9: 7djl (3247 in chips)
blecram: posts small blind 50
Henri Henri: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [Ac Kd]
seanj66: folds
calamitas: folds
7djl: folds
quzzo: raises 200 to 300
Znam: folds
busto_soon: calls 300


2) Henri is a loosepassive fish

PokerStars Game #13585038194: Tournament #68069817, $1000+$50 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2007/12/01 - 14:45:44 (ET)
Table '68069817 4' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: Znam (2415 in chips)
Seat 3: busto_soon (5310 in chips)
Seat 4: luetch1 (7195 in chips)
Seat 5: blecram (4835 in chips)
Seat 6: Henri Henri (9530 in chips)
Seat 7: seanj66 (6345 in chips)
Seat 8: calamitas (3745 in chips)
Seat 9: 7djl (4612 in chips)
calamitas: posts small blind 75
7djl: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [Kc Ah]
Znam: folds
busto_soon: raises 300 to 450
luetch1: folds
blecram: folds
Henri Henri: raises 750 to 1200
seanj66: folds
calamitas: folds
7djl: folds
busto_soon: folds


final 15 now, first 2 get 19k packages, 3 t/m 11 get buyin back.

3) I've played some previous hands passive too, Kong is the chipleader.

PokerStars Game #13586724787: Tournament #68069817, $1000+$50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/12/01 - 16:05:18 (ET)
Table '68069817 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: maillotjaune (11820 in chips)
Seat 2: seanj66 (9485 in chips)
Seat 3: bastet2004 (13405 in chips)
Seat 4: Braisss (19485 in chips)
Seat 5: busto_soon (10715 in chips)
Seat 7: Kongsgaard (34100 in chips)
Seat 8: Rcm-fr (6698 in chips)
Seat 9: IFiNishfish (14450 in chips)
maillotjaune: posts the ante 50
seanj66: posts the ante 50
bastet2004: posts the ante 50
Braisss: posts the ante 50
busto_soon: posts the ante 50
Kongsgaard: posts the ante 50
Rcm-fr: posts the ante 50
IFiNishfish: posts the ante 50
bastet2004: posts small blind 300
Braisss: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [Kd As]
busto_soon: raises 965 to 1565
Kongsgaard: calls 1565
Rcm-fr: folds
IFiNishfish: folds
maillotjaune: folds
seanj66: folds
bastet2004: folds
Braisss: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ks 2h 4d]
busto_soon: checks
Kongsgaard: bets 2400
busto_soon: calls 2400
*** TURN *** [Ks 2h 4d] [Ah]
busto_soon: checks
Kongsgaard: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ks 2h 4d Ah] [7d]
busto_soon: checks
Kongsgaard: bets 3400
busto_soon: calls 3400

4) Still final 15, I'm about 5th in chips.

PokerStars Game #13586777947: Tournament #68069817, $1000+$50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/12/01 - 16:07:47 (ET)
Table '68069817 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: maillotjaune (11670 in chips)
Seat 2: seanj66 (9335 in chips)
Seat 3: bastet2004 (12955 in chips)
Seat 4: Braisss (16935 in chips)
Seat 5: busto_soon (21130 in chips)
Seat 7: Kongsgaard (25985 in chips)
Seat 8: Rcm-fr (7848 in chips)
Seat 9: IFiNishfish (14300 in chips)
maillotjaune: posts the ante 50
seanj66: posts the ante 50
bastet2004: posts the ante 50
Braisss: posts the ante 50
busto_soon: posts the ante 50
Kongsgaard: posts the ante 50
Rcm-fr: posts the ante 50
IFiNishfish: posts the ante 50
Kongsgaard: posts small blind 300
Rcm-fr: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to busto_soon [Jc Qc]
IFiNishfish: folds
maillotjaune: folds
seanj66: folds
bastet2004: folds
Braisss: folds
busto_soon: raises 965 to 1565
Kongsgaard: raises 5635 to 7200
Rcm-fr: folds
busto_soon: raises 13880 to 21080 and is all-in

Are u posting for thoughts or as instruction on how to play?

hand 1 - I like the call rather than the raise a lot.

hand 2 - given that he is loosePASSIVE I think the fold is fine (but I'd like to know what passive really means to you).

hand 3 - I lead the river and if I check it's to check raise all-in.

hand 4 - seems fine to me if he's trying to run u over.

I like them all but I really don't get number 4

#4 - I was watching this. I didn't know what to make of his huge 3 bet. It was like he didn't want you to call. I would be interested in knowing what you thought and why you thought that you could get him to fold.

7tabling so some random comments

I post this for thoughts/discussion

AK reraise/call around 35bb

loose players on left, so isolation value goes up

2)I saw him call/limp alot but never 3bet, also reraise size is fishy. also no fe with this type of player

3) note position+stack sizes. What's kong's range?

4) very non-standard for me but I'll post thoughts later

3) It's a heads up pot, you have top 2 on a no-draw board vs someone has played it like tpwk on this hand. I am all in on this river.

you miss so much value its gross

Hand 3 is ok, if you c/c the flop i like how you played later streets. Shoving the river is marginal.

Hand 4 i kinda like but i hope you have a read that kong is a bit of the a nit.

Hand 1 and 2 i don't like and i think you know why.

Do my eyes decieve me or did you just flat the river with top two on hand 3? The suits aren't wrong are they? Are there four hearts out there or something?

If there's nothing wrong with the HH, I'm fine with how you played it but I definitely raise the river.

About the AK hand: I know more about Kongsgaard now, but at the time I assumed he was a solid winning player. Now look at the preflop action and assign ranges given this assumption..

Originally Posted by gabe

you miss so much value its gross

Which hand are you referring too?

I think gabe is referring to #3.

Hand 3
Preflop
UTG raise from jfish, opponent probably puts you on a solid hand. TT+, AK, AQ at worst. Flat call by opponent means to me he's looking to hit a flop and stack. Probably mid pocket pair or AK.

Flop
busto checks. Kong thinks he could be slow playing his set of kings, AK, or completely missed. More likely that he completely missed so I'm going to take a stab with pocket pair or bet for value on my AK. He bets and gets called. Starts to get suspicious, or possibly excited if he hit his set.

Turn
So now the ace hits and Kong appears to be done with the hand. Doubtful that he had an ace preflop. jfish checks, and kongs shows he is willing to give up and checks behind, well aware that it means jfish will be likely to take a stab on the river.

River.
jfish does not take a stab. WTF thinks Kong. Now this is the part I don't get. jfish is left with like a couple big blinds if he calls and loses (to a set???). What kind of bet puts someone that close to AI in a pot that big? I can't see kong flopping a set and still checking behind on the turn so I doubt he has a set unless it is 77. So this is either a value bet with 77 or naked bluff. Given previous streets I can't think this is a value bet unless he really is on 77. It seems his holding 77 is rare enough to not worry about, why not just get the rest of the chips in?

Sorry for the hijack but...

What step are you buying in at? I'm donking around with some FPPs at Step1 but the turbos go through step3 so it's tough to play much real poker. If you're buying in lower than step6 are you just trying to finish ITM and then go for the win from there so you don't lose your ticket, or go for the "win"(usually Top2?) everytime? What's your strategy for steps vs. a regular MTT? If you're buying straight into Step6 then nevermind.

I think you're all missing the preflop action. If I'm Utg+1 and a solid player raises utg 8-handed with 18bb my flat calling range is exclusively KK/AA/misclick. Anything other is a mistake.

Against KK+ my line post is ok, in fact it doesn't really matter because I get stacked anyway.

Now if he screws up and calls with trash (like he did now, he had AJ lololol), there's no value in betting and I should let him bluff at it.

c/r river is bad, because solid players never have AQ or worse to pay me off.

Of course, now that I know he's bad I'll play different next time.

Aces: I buy direct in for step 6s.

Originally Posted by johnny_fish

I think you're all missing the preflop action. If I'm Utg+1 and a solid player raises utg 8-handed with 18bb my flat calling range is exclusively KK/AA/misclick. Anything other is a mistake.

LOL donkaments. There was a thread in HSMTT on 2+2 awhile ago where some guy raised UTG with QQ and got cold-called by another 2+2er 18ish bb stack and he check-folded a low flop. It's funny how people can get in spots vs. other regulars where their entire range is AA/KK and expect to get paid off anyway.

heh, I know it's obvious but
- ppl go broke anyway with JJ/QQ even though they suspect it if they're any good
-there are 6 players behind, they could be bad and squeeze all kinds of stuff.

But yea, if I'm deep in a 109r/1k I never flat there.

Originally Posted by johnny_fish

I think you're all missing the preflop action. If I'm Utg+1 and a solid player raises utg 8-handed with 18bb my flat calling range is exclusively KK/AA/misclick. Anything other is a mistake.

Problem is, you're not playing against yourself.

Originally Posted by johnny_fish

Against KK+ my line post is ok, in fact it doesn't really matter because I get stacked anyway.

How is it ok if you have just put opp on only KK or AA? You should have folded if you truly believe what you were saying above.

Originally Posted by johnny_fish

Now if he screws up and calls with trash (like he did now, he had AJ lololol), there's no value in betting and I should let him bluff at it.

Ok - I am fine with this.

Originally Posted by johnny_fish

c/r river is bad, because solid players never have AQ or worse to pay me off.

Ummmmm, now you're back to your first hypocritical statement. If he only has AA or KK you should fold (and should have on the flop). If you're calling it's because you think there is a decent chance he has worse or the same hand as you. If he has worse (meaning that he screwed up and called with trash), you need to c/r the river for value.

Originally Posted by chardrian

Originally Posted by johnny_fish

Against KK+ my line post is ok, in fact it doesn't really matter because I get stacked anyway.

How is it ok if you have just put opp on only KK or AA? You should have folded if you truly believe what you were saying above.

I'm not saying that. I put him on KK+ and an unknown % of other hands ('trash').

River; At the time I respected him enough to make the b/c range beat AK. Probably correct against a lot of players, apparently not against him.