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    Default 3.40 tourney review. Bubble aint bursting !

    I got some good feedback last time I posted here (thanks Taipan)
    Now I got this even more frustrating problem. I checked my last 20 or so tournaments and noticed that if I bust out its 9 out of 10 times on fourth place!
    So my bubble play is obviously bad!


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  2. #2
    Overall comments:

    - You missed some open raise spots from the button with half decent hands. Particularly if the blinds are tight, I tend to be aggressive here.
    - I think some of your bets were too small. In general you should be betting between 50% and 100% of the pot depending on flop texture, whether it's a value or bluff bet, etc. No point making a tiny bet of 20% of the pot, you need to ask yourself what is this going to achieve?
    - In these small stakes tourneys I think you need to raise a bit more than min, if you're bluffing a bigger raise will generally get more folds, if you have a decent hand you want to build the pot more.
    - Sorry to be harsh but hands 12 and 14 were bad mistakes, honestly if you did nothing other than fix the leaks in these hands your ROI would probably improve markedly.

    1. AJ - personally I just fold this to an EP raise. Reverse implied odds on an A or J high flop can be pretty bad here.

    2. AQs - bet a little more on the turn, 1/2 pot seems good. You are giving opp correct odds to chase a flush with your small bet and it also screams weakness, inviting a raise which you can't call.

    3. AQs - flop is a good spot for a c-bet. It's a safe flop for you and you'll most likely take the pot down without a fight (or get called by worse and take his money if you hit an A or Q on the turn). Definitely bet the turn as played, but after checking behind twice I think you have to fold the river.

    A 9 CO (Hero's M = 31.78; f+f+F+f+f) (between 3 and 4) - could consider raising this

    4. KK - raise a bit more preflop. 250-300 seems good. You want to build a big pot here. As played, 1/2 pot on the flop is good, or you could even check behind since this flop is so safe in the hope that opp will bluff the turn.

    3 3 Button (Hero's M = 20.40; f+f+F+f) (between 4 and 5) - raise here

    5. K5s - guess calling is OK since you're in position, the other play would be to shove back if you think he's bluffing.

    6. A9s - raise a little more, make it 125-150 to go.

    7. AQs - as per 6, 150 to go. As played, definitely raise the flop, you have two overcards and the nut flush draw so even if opp has 9x you're still a favourite to win. I make it like 450 to go and call a shove. Otherwise the rest is fine, except that I wouldn't leave yourself with 5 chips behind on the river though, there is a non-zero chance that you accidentally fold if he shoves over (believe me I've done it).

    K 7 Button (Hero's M = 17.87; f+f+F+f) (between 7 and 8) - raise this

    8. KJo - fold preflop from UTG when the big stack is in the BB. Also as per the other hands above, if you want to raise then make it 250 to go not minraise.

    9. AKs - 250 is plenty rather than 300, keeps the pot a bit smaller. As played, your c-bet is too small and invites this kind of raise from opp, with a pot of 650 I'd bet around 400 to maximise your fold equity on this missed flop.

    10. T2o - raise or fold preflop, this hand is pretty much worthless postflop unless you get a miracle flop

    8 A Button (Hero's M = 13.20; f+F+r+f) (between 10 and 11) - definite raise preflop

    11. K9s - as per the other hands, 250 would be better than 200.

    A T CO (Hero's M = 12.20; F+f+r+f) (between 11 and 12) - I'd raise this 2.5x BB

    12. 99 - wow, definitely call the shoveover, opp could think that you are trying to steal the blinds and would definitely shove over with worse (think smaller-mid pocket pairs). You even have odds to flip against overcards so you're really only fearing TT+, and he definitely shoves over with worse than that. If you're going to fold 99 in a spot like this, what hand do you need to call? I think that this is where you lost the tourney with this bad fold.

    K 6 Button (Hero's M = 5.47; f+F+f) (between 13 and 14) - most probably a shove, I haven't run it in SNG Wiz but I think it's close

    14. 65o - I think you're probably tilting a little here by minraising then folding to a shove over. This is a definite shove or fold spot and I would probably just shove it. This is really bad to piss away more than 20% of your stack by minraising then folding to the shove over. This mistake also hurt your chances in this tourney.

    15. ATo - I probably wait for another spot unless you've seen opp be very aggressive with the big stack, in which case it's fine.
  3. #3
    Once again thanks a lot Taipan.
    I really tried to think about what you said during my last 4 tournaments and I've noticed that 2.5 - 3 xBB does barely get called , like you said.
    The reason I've been trying those min raises is because I've often been able to pick up blinds without having to risk much and I saw that as a better tactic than 3bet get called and have nothing at all.

    I do have a question about calling a shove over. Would I call a shove over with 99 even tho we had similiar stacks or should I wait for a better oppurtunity?
    At my buy ins most people shove all in when ever they get an Ace , so I'm always prepared for 1 or 2 overcards whenever I have small pokcet pairs. So is it still the right play to do ? Try to steal blinds if they shove call with any 2 pocket pairs ?
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by adii View Post
    The reason I've been trying those min raises is because I've often been able to pick up blinds without having to risk much and I saw that as a better tactic than 3bet get called and have nothing at all.
    If a min raise works, then there's nothing wrong with using it, just that my experience is that at lower buyins they often don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by adii View Post
    I do have a question about calling a shove over. Would I call a shove over with 99 even tho we had similiar stacks or should I wait for a better oppurtunity?
    At my buy ins most people shove all in when ever they get an Ace , so I'm always prepared for 1 or 2 overcards whenever I have small pokcet pairs. So is it still the right play to do ? Try to steal blinds if they shove call with any 2 pocket pairs ?
    You're not stealing the blinds when you raise on the button with 99, you're betting for value. The other thing is that it would be very different if there were two short stack, you were second stack and the big stack shoved over, but in this case you are the short stack so the ICM effect is not as powerful.

    The point is, because you already put in 450 chips into the pot, you only have to call 1230 chips to win 2280 which is 1.85 to 1 pot odds. Even if opp shows you AK face up, you have to call because you have the right price. The only hands you are fearing are TT+ and SB would shove over with many worse hands than TT+.

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