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  1. #1
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    Default 2 oesfds, call/fold?

    First hand is from the ftp 1k wsop sat, players are ok. Second is Absolute 530, field consists of morons mostly. Also how's the flop check in 1? Doggy seems loosepassive pre.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #5531216318: $1K Thursday Main Event Qual (41846530), Table 5 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:13:38 ET - 2008/03/06
    Seat 1: ascott67 (1,860)
    Seat 2: MrDoggy (2,965)
    Seat 3: hoodini10 (4,885)
    Seat 4: J_Early (4,750)
    Seat 5: bfull (2,845)
    Seat 6: bwizz (2,000)
    Seat 7: goldy18k (8,310), is sitting out
    Seat 8: busto_soon (3,350)
    Seat 9: michaelsc (7,650)
    bfull posts the small blind of 50
    bwizz posts the big blind of 100
    The button is in seat #4
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to busto_soon [Jh Kh]
    goldy18k folds
    busto_soon raises to 300
    michaelsc folds
    ascott67 folds
    MrDoggy calls 300
    hoodini10 has 15 seconds left to act
    hoodini10 folds
    J_Early folds
    bfull folds
    bwizz calls 200
    *** FLOP *** [2h 9h Ts]
    bwizz checks
    busto_soon checks
    MrDoggy has 15 seconds left to act
    MrDoggy checks
    *** TURN *** [2h 9h Ts] [8s]
    bwizz bets 1,700, and is all in
    busto_soon has 15 seconds left to act
    busto_soon ?

    Stage #1115418813 Tourney ID 1973856 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $120 - 2008-03-08 17:37:00 (ET)
    Table: 14 (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer
    Seat 1 - ULTRALOOSE13 ($1666 in chips)
    Seat 2 - OMTHROWD ($7000 in chips)
    Seat 3 - EL1TENDO ($3003 in chips)
    Seat 4 - JAKESTEAL ($4250 in chips)
    Seat 5 - JOHNNY2912 ($3595 in chips)
    Seat 6 - STEVENDAVID ($4485 in chips)
    Seat 7 - PKRPIMP ($7719 in chips)
    Seat 8 - BOGARAS ($7782 in chips)
    Seat 9 - HOMONID ($6010 in chips)
    JAKESTEAL - Posts small blind $60
    JOHNNY2912 - Posts big blind $120
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to JOHNNY2912 [8h 7h]
    STEVENDAVID - Raises $240 to $240
    PKRPIMP - Folds
    BOGARAS - Folds
    HOMONID - Calls $240
    ULTRALOOSE13 - Folds
    OMTHROWD - Folds
    EL1TENDO - Folds
    JAKESTEAL - Folds
    JOHNNY2912 - Calls $120
    *** FLOP *** [6h 6d 9s]
    JOHNNY2912 - Checks
    STEVENDAVID - Bets $500
    HOMONID - Calls $500
    JOHNNY2912 - Calls $500
    *** TURN *** [6h 6d 9s] [2h]
    JOHNNY2912 - Checks
    STEVENDAVID - Bets $1000
    HOMONID - All-In(Raise) $5270 to $5270
    JOHNNY2912 - (2855 left) ?
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    why not cbet hand 1? I dont know if i could ever fold this turn

    Hand 2 is a little different, I usually will let this go.


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    Hand 1 - I bet flop and get er all-in if raised. As played it's pure pot odds. You have 15+ outs. You need about 2:1.

    Hand 2 - if you were pretty sure your outs were good then it's another pot odds question. But here it's more figuring out how often you're drawing dead. I can see arguments for folding or calling here.
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