11$STT JJ - KKx flop ?

guy is playing at least 2 tables has played pretty standard taggish.

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MP (t670)
CO (t1785)
Button (t2770)
SB (t1495)
BB (t3830)
Hero (UTG) (t2950)

Hero's M: 19.67

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, J
Hero bets t300, 1 fold, CO calls t300, 3 folds

Flop: (t750) K, K, 2 (2 players)
and then?

Hero throws out a bet of 400-450.

I don't think we can fold the flop.

I would bet 1/2 the pot and pray that he folds

Fwiw I 2.5 x it pre UTG in this spot to avoid bloating the pot since I will likely be OOP. (And I pray for MP to shove)

On flop I bet 400. If he continues his range probably looks something like this:

77+, AhQh, AhJh, AKo, AKs ( I didn't include 22 or KhJh b/c I thought it'd be unlikely that a standard Tagg would be calling a 3x from UTG with these hands)

Though an argument can be made that he repop's some of these hands preflop.

On flop we have ~51% equity vs this range. Question is if he decides to shove is he doing it with his whole range?


***Sidenote: I have actually just spent a few minutes pondering what checking the flop accomplishes in this situation, but am tired and will look into it tomorrow...

if we check this flop we are basically giving up the hand. I do the same as Tai here and bet 400-450. If villain flats I shove just about any turn, if villain shoves I throw out a few cuss words and call.

K so i lead 450 into him and he min raised how bout after that? shove or fold?

I would shove over. If you're going to fold to the minraise I'd check the flop. I don't really love that but I can see it. He can certainly minraise us here with a lot of hands we have crushed.

agree with baudib

I would think about the times you've been on the other end of this. You call a preflop raise with something like 88 or 99 and this flop comes...the PFR bets into you for like 1/3-1/2 your remaining stack and you go WTF. I know I have certainly raised those cbets in those situations without anything remotely resembling trips and I'm sure I didn't always have the best hand.

These are a problem for me...I just had a very similar hand...99 on the button raise 4x bb and flop comes AAQ...BB who called preflop bet the pot...and I folded.