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    Default $8/180 76s flops bottom two

    No reads or stats, this is third hand of the tourney. Preflop call is probably a bit loose from MP2 but whatever.

    I want to play this hand fast since it's in danger of being counterfeited, but what do we do on the turn after the check-minraise? Can we get away from this hand?

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    MP3 (t1,500)
    CO (t1,490)
    Button (t1,080)
    SB (t1,360)
    BB (t1,500)
    UTG (t2,070)
    UTG+1 (t1,500)
    MP1 (t1,500)
    Hero (MP2) (t1,500)

    Hero's M: 50.00

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7, 6
    3 folds, Hero calls t20, 3 folds, SB calls t10, BB checks

    Flop: (t60) 7, 6, A (3 players)
    SB checks, BB bets t20, Hero raises to t100, 1 fold, BB calls t80

    Turn: (t260) 9 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets t180, BB raises to t360, Hero ????
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    Why do you have an open limping range in MP2?

    Yeah on the turn I think its an easy fold even to the minraise. You may even be dominated by 97/A7 here.
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    I play really shallow stacks so maybe I'm being a donk, but my gut wants to raise bigger on the flop.

    I agree with Renton, usually no open limp range here.
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    You guys are right, probably wasn't the best move to open limp but at these 180s you often get a lot of limpers at levels 1 and 2 - tbh I was surprised that many more didn't come along for the ride. So you think that opp doesn't do this often enough with something that we're ahead of to do anything else other than fold?
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    It's still better to open raise this hand. If you'd like to have a limping range I'd rather do it with big offsuit broadways and small to mid pairs. Perhaps stuff like A6 suited. 76s really needs initiative to be played profitably out of position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168 View Post
    You guys are right, probably wasn't the best move to open limp but at these 180s you often get a lot of limpers at levels 1 and 2 - tbh I was surprised that many more didn't come along for the ride.
    I would be less likely to limp this hand if I think that players behind are going to come along and more likely to limp if I think I'll end up with the button. If the people that have position on you are very tight and usually fold here, limping seems almost good if the blinds aren't folding to raises. If the blinds fold to raises, though, I don't see how limping can be good even if you end up with position every time.
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    Limping from early position is asking for trouble with a hand like this. You either have to raise or fold with this hand in this position. Having said that you got to see the flop cheaply and hit two pair. The fact that the BB checked the intial bet suggests he either has A rag and has also hit two pair or he has trips. Chances are you are beat but for another 180 I would call in this situation.
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    He could have A8hrts or A rag hrts (A6, A7, possibly A9). If I had 810 hrts I'd probably play it like him if I thought you had a strong hand, which based on your flop action, you are repping. You have the worst 2 pair and I don't see someone in an $8 doing this with worse. Fold is the right move.
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    10k posts in 9 years and you're still openlimping?
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    Don't pile on, ong. I wouldn't at all be surprised if we see a lot of open limping in every position from good players in 5 years or so. Poker is going through some crazy evolution and shit that everyone thought was bad is now no longer bad.
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    That's probably a fair point, I mean it's not like I'm owning online poker right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    10k posts in 9 years and you're still openlimping?
    Yeah, probably the consequence of not having played very much at all since Black Friday!
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    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168 View Post
    Yeah, probably the consequence of not having played very much at all since Black Friday!
    Renton is probably right, it's likely not as bad as I've been conditioned to believe. I had it drummed into me as I learned poker that openlimping is bad, that if we want to open our hand we should raise. But there's probably a good argument for limping these days, idk.
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