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    Default Standard Spot: What's Your Range?

    Would be good to get some discussion going on here about how we play certain frequent spots like the one below.

    What's your range and sizing for stabbing turn? What's your line on a bunch of different rivers?

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    SB: $24.74 (99 bb)
    Hero (BB): $33.38 (133.5 bb)
    UTG: $25.65 (102.6 bb)
    MP: $21.72 (86.9 bb)
    CO: $25.35 (101.4 bb)
    BTN: $74.55 (298.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with his standard BB flatting range against a typical reg villain:
    2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50

    Flop: ($1.60) T 6 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks

    Turn: ($1.60) 4 (2 players)
    Hero????
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    Seems like you skipped a couple/few steps.

    I.e.:
    What is (your best guess at) a typical reg villain's range to open 3x from CO, here?

    (What is your 3-betting range in this spot?)
    What's your range to flat call in this spot?

    What is your range to check on this flop?

    What is (your best guess at) Villain's range to check behind OTF?
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    ^^

    Let's assume a reg is opening 25% in the CO. I'm deliberately not including how I play in this spot (which I know isn't great), as I'm interested in how other people are constructing their range.
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    I think this depends a lot on vills cbet frequencies.

    If he has a high cbet, I'm prob stabbing here almost any two, but if he tends to check back a lot of pairs etc then I might not stab quite as wide.
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    i think its obvious we are donking turn w/ gutshot + overs, pair+gutshot, top pair, flush draws and of course straights/ sets/ 2pair etc/ i think i would even fire overcards/, Ace + gutshot, that already is a huge range giving positions, so why ask?

    due to opp line, i would check/decide all rivers when called on turn. vs a turn raise, hmmm , thats another discussion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razvan729 View Post
    i think its obvious we are donking turn w/ gutshot + overs, pair+gutshot, top pair, flush draws and of course straights/ sets/ 2pair etc/ i think i would even fire overcards/, Ace + gutshot, that already is a huge range giving positions, so why ask?

    due to opp line, i would check/decide all rivers when called on turn. vs a turn raise, hmmm , thats another discussion
    I disagree about this being obvious and your range is kind of why I posted the thread. When you check turn, you're basically folding 100% versus a bet and you're also going to struggle against a turn raise with that range too as you have so much crap in it. I'd be interested in your sizing choice as well with that range - don't get me wrong, I think leading 100% range for half pot or so will show an instant profit, but it's incredibly easy to play against if you're a competent villain.

    Checking all rivers seems weak btw - why would you do that when villain's range likely can't stand any heat?
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    If he just calls me on turn,he has a weak line, his range would Be i assume pair,draws and just floats planning to get me on some Rivers. I also asume he doesnt have string draws, top pair or getter sincer they are better off bwting flop. I check all Rivers w/ my al rangedue to his line, seems hard to get another bet from him, but my string hands and medium hands could get some value if i also look week, he might try and get the pot on river.
    In this spot i am not folding that much vs a turn raise, doing that ATC vs me is not profitabile for him.
    Also agrea that part of my range would be more profitabile If i bet some Rivers , but overall i believe i get a lot more profit by checking IT all
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    Sorry for the grammar, quick phone reply while driving. Totally iresponsible on my behalf
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