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    Default so, tell me about QJ suited

    thoughts on QJs?
    it's such a pretty hand, look how pretty it is below!
    interested with respect to 100+bb, cash ring games

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    Stacks:
    daven (SB) 168bb
    BB 122bb

    Pre-Flop: daven is SB

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    Stacks:
    daven (CO) 176bb
    BTN 100bb
    SB 102bb
    BB 143bb

    Pre-Flop: ( 4 players) daven is CO
    daven raises ,
    Last edited by daven; 09-27-2014 at 04:28 AM.
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    Raising both spots.
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    I don't get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    I don't get it.
    fair enough, i obviously did a poor job of explaining what i meant.
    I'm studying again, occasionally i spend a few hours thinking about one particular hand (in this case QJs), typically what i gain from that can be extended to benefit every part of my game.

    So, what are people's thoughts on QJs? why?

    e.g. vs 3bets, from utg, in the sb when limped to, etc.
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    yeah I don't get it either but some thoughts:

    QJs is one of my favorite hands to play because it works well in multiway pots or HU vs. weak players.

    One of the better hands to float with on dryish boards.



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    I'm getting back into FR. Advice is for FR.

    QJs is in a pretty sweet spot on a hand chart. It's 2 broadways, suited, and connected. It has excellent flop potential so turning it into a bluff is almost always -EV. However, Villain needs to be continuing a wide range to your 3-bets to include QJs for value. These together make QJs a great hand to call an opened pot or to open raise.

    The pressure of position is always a concern when talking hand strength. If the table is full of fish who don't raise pre-flop, opening QJs from all positions can be profitable. If there are any 3-bets going on, and further aggression, then playing this UTG and UTG+1 is probably not going to be profitable. When the pre-flop action is more aggro, opening with QJs can be trouble from MP1 (UTG+2).

    Seeing a flop for more than limps is the pre-flop goal with QJs... from there it's all board texture, table dynamics, number of opponents, IP or OOP, etc.


    SB/BB depends a lot. I think QJs has too much equity to do any 3-bet bluffing, and too little equity to re-open the betting. It flops better than most SC and plays well multi-handed. I don't mind calling in a limp-fest from the SB or checking my option from BB any more than I mind calling a few bb to see the flop. I find it's risky to open these spots with multiple opponents. I do think it's probably a good hand to 3-bet/call the BTN if BTN/Blind dynamic is aggro.
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    Will open it UTG sometimes, but not always necessarily.
    Will cold call an open with it often but not always (UTG+1 vs tight UTG, maybe not, or from most positions vs a tight UTG not necessarily)
    Will open it from all non-UTG positions.
    Will likely fold to a 3b OOP unless on the CO or SB where I may peel or even 4b sometimes.
    Will likely fold to a squeeze if I'm the opener.
    Will call a 3b IP if villain is aggro, will likely fold otherwise.
    Will likely call behind a squeeze and a call.
    Will isolate limpers, unless from the blinds where I will call up or check.
    Will likely cold call in blinds, rather than 3b. May 3b in SB if BB is aggro.
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    Great hand If we're not going crazy post. Although that available for 30% of combos. I think the way/when/vs who you play the hand makes it more valuable or not then its starting note.
    All posts are just my own opinion about a hand or a general situation... not advices on how you should play...

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