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Kings in early position, 4b sizing? postflop with overpair?

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    Default Kings in early position, 4b sizing? postflop with overpair?

    min 3-bettor is maniac 50-30-20, min 3b is his standard sizing, all over about 80 hands and down a couple of stacks. 30% fold to flop cbet, 20% raise flop cbet, 100% bet when checked to postflop thus far.
    sb is big losing loose fish.

    4b sizing?
    flop play?
    $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
    9 Players
    Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG ($29.63) 119bb
    daven (UTG+1) ($25.70) 103bb
    MP1 ($33.80) 135bb
    MP2 ($36.26) 145bb
    MP3 ($25.55) 102bb
    CO ($29.15) 117bb
    BTN ($24.80) 99bb
    SB ($20.30) 81bb
    BB ($27.81) 111bb

    Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 9 players) daven is UTG+1
    1 fold, daven raises to $0.85, 3 folds, CO raises to $1.45, 1 fold, SB calls $1.35, 1 fold, daven raises to $5.40, CO calls $3.95, SB folds

    Flop: ($12.50, 2 players)
    what to do?
  2. #2
    Isn't this a really really easy c/jam? I'd expect him to b/f everything that missed and b/c everything that got a piece of that flop. I suppose I could c/c just to tempt him to shove his air on the turn, I guess you'll have a better idea if he's the kind of fool to keep spewing here when we slow play.

    I like you 4b sizing vs this guy. Normally I'd go less but this looks perfect.
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    100% bet when checked to postflop will be like 3 hands so I don't see how bet/call isn't going to be the best thing to do.
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    Admittedly this flop is a huge disaster.

    You're going to stack to AA/QQQ/JJJ no matter how you slice it, so you should be taking a line/sizing that will make the most out of the hands you beat.

    I would probably bet like $4 or something, and hope he puts us on AK and jams any Qx/Jx type hand. He might even jam AK himself over a small bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
    Admittedly this flop is a huge disaster.

    You're going to stack to AA/QQQ/JJJ no matter how you slice it, so you should be taking a line/sizing that will make the most out of the hands you beat.

    I would probably bet like $4 or something, and hope he puts us on AK and jams any Qx/Jx type hand. He might even jam AK himself over a small bet.
    I'm also in the ~1/3 psb camp.
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    I don't consider this flop a disaster vs a dude with these stats. He has plenty enough Qx Jx to balance out the times he hits hard. And even when he has QJ, we have 5 outs on the turn and a further three for the river if we both miss turn. I'm only hating a set, and realistically he only has threes. I can't wait for the money to go in.
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