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  1. #1

    Default iso fish and reg overcalls

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    ive played 2.2k hands with this villain multitabling.

    his stats are :
    VPIP: 22 PFR:19
    cold call BTN : 9
    3B is 9.7
    F2CB: 40 F2TCB:20
    Bet vs miss cbet turn: 67




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    MP ($9.12)
    Hero (CO) ($10.26)
    Button ($10.96)
    SB ($16.03)
    BB ($10)
    UTG ($13.70)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 9
    1 fold, MP calls $0.10, Hero raises $0.60, Button calls $0.60, 3 folds

    Flop: ($1.45) Q, 9, 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.69, Button calls $0.69

    Turn: ($2.83) K (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button bets $1.80, Hero calls $1.80

    River: ($6.43) J (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button bets $3.05, Hero folds

    Total pot: $6.43 | Rake: $0.22

    Results below:
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    my plan:

    preflop I wanted to iso limper, he was 43/3 over 100 hands. F2CB was 75%

    flop was ok but wet so went for value.

    turn was tricky, bet-fold is gross, bet-call seems spewy and checking sucks. in the moment I thought x/c was the least painful.

    river makes a lot of his turn semi-bluffing range. it also makes some 2 pairs but notecaddy says his 1/2 PSB OTR is congruent with value hands. (implicit strength:6 implicit weakness:3)
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  2. #2
    What's hero's image here? How would hero normally play 2pr+ in this spot against villain?
  3. #3
    I think this is fine. That turn is as disastrous as they come.

    If you don't think he'd ever bluff raise you, you could bet turn with the intention of b/f.
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    with those stats I have a hard time folding here. If he is betting 2/3 of the time that he is checked to on the turn after floating flops it seems to me that this is just a play in his arsenal a lot of the time. There are definitely hands he has that we are behind (AcXc, and the random TxXx hands he has) but there has to be a lot of 2 pair combos and air that he has as well. I also hate folding sets - so there's that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bean Counter View Post
    What's hero's image here? How would hero normally play 2pr+ in this spot against villain?
    KQ is the only 2 pair I could realistically have here. I don't iso QJ or KJ as with regs behind. BB was also a reg.
    I would probably bet-fold turn

    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
    I think this is fine. That turn is as disastrous as they come.

    If you don't think he'd ever bluff raise you, you could bet turn with the intention of b/f.
    I think villain will raise with all of his made hands. plus QT,KT,AT with a club. I cant see him raising QJ,KJ or J9. if we check I think he will bet all of his range. he called the flop which means he has a pair+ or a naked FD. Notecaddy says he calls cbets with medium FDs as well as combo draws and TPs.

    Quote Originally Posted by chardrian View Post
    with those stats I have a hard time folding here. If he is betting 2/3 of the time that he is checked to on the turn after floating flops it seems to me that this is just a play in his arsenal a lot of the time. There are definitely hands he has that we are behind (AcXc, and the random TxXx hands he has) but there has to be a lot of 2 pair combos and air that he has as well. I also hate folding sets - so there's that.
    exactly why I wanted to post this hand. I forgot to mention that those stats are total. I didn't have those at the time of the hand. his turn bet vs missed cbet was 80%. river was 0%. at 2.2k hands his river was 4%. that was what really put fold into my head. he fires a ton of turns and shuts down OTR. are 2 pairs in his range for the river? I don't know as I don't have that specific of a history. would of been worth it probably to pay the 30BBs just for the information. I also dislike folding sets..very much so, but it seems like he is at the top of his range given previous actions.
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    if he's shutting down at river so often, then he's much more polarized here as having the nuts or air - and it looks heavily weighted towards the nuts. So your line looks great to me now.
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  7. #7
    Agree wtih chard, I think this is played fine and the river is a good fold. I don't think I can find a turn b/f so I c/c because I don't want to miss the potential value of filling up vs a straight or flush.
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