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    Default 2NL Spazz Hand

    Winning Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Winning Poker Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

    UTG ($2.03)
    MP ($2.20)
    CO ($2.81)
    Button ($1.23)
    SB ($2)
    Hero (BB) ($2.32)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 5, A
    3 folds, Button calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises $0.05, Button calls $0.05

    Flop: ($0.15) 6, 3, J (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.11, Button calls $0.11

    Turn: ($0.37) 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button bets $0.36, Hero raises to $2.14 (All-In), Button calls $0.69 (All-In)

    River: ($2.47) A (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $2.47 | Rake: $0.08

    Results below:
    Spoiler:

    Button had J, 8 (one pair, Jacks).
    Hero had 5, A (one pair, Aces).
    Outcome: Hero won $2.35


    I would be happy to see your views on my play this hand.
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    Raise more preflop 8c would be better. Fold turn rather than raising. Your play to shove makes no sense and you'd never do it with anything good. I know you have a flush draw and a gutshot but it's trash and people are calling far too much here.

    Make a note on villain betting big with weak made hands when you showed weakness by checking.
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    Raise more PRE. I agree with $0.08 as a good value.
    (I'd probably flat with A6s - A9s, but 3-bet with A2s - A5s, so there's some context.)

    I want to see a full equity calc, including fold equity, before I agree with Savy's advice to fold turn. (If his comment, "you'd never do this with anything good" is true, that's not necessarily a sign that you played this spot poorly. It could mean that you're not playing similar spots aggressively enough. It's not clear which, to me.) I tend to think that if you can't semi-bluff with 12 outs, then your own range is imba.

    Whether or not this is a good semi-bluff is entirely determined by what % of Villain's range folds vs. what % calls. (Since we already know the other details.)
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    Board: 3hJs6s
    Equity Win Tie
    BU 66.83% 63.54% 3.29% { 99-22, A8s-A2s, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, 64s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s }
    BB 33.17% 29.89% 3.29% { Ah5h }
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    At what point in the hand do you think that is Villain's range?
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    Right when the flop comes down and hero cbets.

    edit: Hmm. I think I see where you're going to go with this. I guess villain's range could be much wider than that then.
    Last edited by BigSlickBaby; 06-16-2017 at 12:45 PM.
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    99-22,T9o-T7o,98o-97o,87o,76o,65o,54o,43o,32o,A8s-A2s,KTs-K5s,QTs-Q5s,JTs-J5s,T9s-T6s,98s-96s,87s-86s,76s-75s,65s-64s,54s-52s,43s-42s,32s

    I would say that's a more realistic range once the flop comes down. (Villain)

    edit: I actually expanded it a bit more by putting 10% weight on TT and 5% weight to hands like AQo and AJs but, of course, that doesn't really change things much.
    Last edited by BigSlickBaby; 06-16-2017 at 01:03 PM.
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    I wasn't intending to be "going" anywhere, but toward that equity calc I mentioned, and I wasn't sure where the range you posted played into that.

    Wherever you're going is probably worth exploring, but I didn't mean to point you there (I think).

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    No, you definitely did lead me down a road I needed to go. As said, I'm starting to get deeper into this kind of material and I need to consider as much as possible.

    As for the avatar: Thanks. I've always thought they had a brilliant logo and the software itself has received a few updates lately.
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    Thanks for posting these hands.

    Pre is right on the borderline for me of hands i want to raise in the BB vs a fishy button limp. I prefer a check as standard as we have no fold equity and have a slight equity advantage will be difficult realise out of position.

    Flop: i would exploitatively size smaller against a fish with my bluffs. Villain's decision to call or fold doesn't vary too greatly against different sizing, so we don't need to size up when bluffing with backdoor draws.

    Turn: Bit too fancy. I thin we can bet half pot to set our own price and give up unimproved on the river. As played, I don't hate a check but you have zero fold equity when villain pots it but you do have the odds to call, so we should do that. Jamming just means we get it in behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bean Counter View Post
    Thanks for posting these hands.
    He's a regular villain of mine but he's really dedicated to improving his game and playing in the most difficult environment a US player can (WPN). As a result, I've definitely grown a liking and respect for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savy View Post
    Raise more preflop 8c would be better. Fold turn rather than raising. Your play to shove makes no sense and you'd never do it with anything good. I know you have a flush draw and a gutshot but it's trash and people are calling far too much here.

    Make a note on villain betting big with weak made hands when you showed weakness by checking.
    I didn't like my raise amount PF. .7 is normal, but with 1 limper .8 is appropriate as said.

    Not quite getting what I need for a turn call, but with implied odds I think a call is better than a push for sure.

    Thank you Savy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Raise more PRE. I agree with $0.08 as a good value.
    (I'd probably flat with A6s - A9s, but 3-bet with A2s - A5s, so there's some context.)

    I want to see a full equity calc, including fold equity, before I agree with Savy's advice to fold turn. (If his comment, "you'd never do this with anything good" is true, that's not necessarily a sign that you played this spot poorly. It could mean that you're not playing similar spots aggressively enough. It's not clear which, to me.) I tend to think that if you can't semi-bluff with 12 outs, then your own range is imba.

    Whether or not this is a good semi-bluff is entirely determined by what % of Villain's range folds vs. what % calls. (Since we already know the other details.)
    All I saw was that button limp and thought he was trying for a passive steal. No real idea how I raised to .5. .7 is my min-raise PF. Likely clock running and I did some clicking. Proud? No. Just saying. But I have been forgetting to add the 1/2 BB for each limper lately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigSlickBaby View Post
    He's a regular villain of mine but he's really dedicated to improving his game and playing in the most difficult environment a US player can (WPN). As a result, I've definitely grown a liking and respect for him.
    Thanks Slick *tear wells in corner of eye*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcash2 View Post
    Thanks Slick *tear wells in corner of eye*
    Haha...ok, ok. Enough now
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