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2nl QQ on BU 3b pot multi.. pre & river questions...

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  1. #1

    Default 2nl QQ on BU 3b pot multi.. pre & river questions...

    Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
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    CO: $1.62 (VPIP: 55.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 20)
    Hero (BTN): $1.97
    SB: $2.86 (VPIP: 36.00, PFR: 36.00, 3Bet Preflop: 37.50, Hands: 26)
    BB: $2.97 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)

    SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has Q Q

    fold, Hero raises to $0.06, SB raises to $0.18, BB calls $0.16, Hero calls $0.12

    Flop: ($0.54, 3 players) 8 K 5
    SB bets $0.26, fold, Hero calls $0.26

    Turn: ($1.06, 2 players) 7
    SB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

    River: ($2.06, 2 players) K
    SB checks, ?????

    don't have much on either villain yet, except sb has 3b 3/8 times, once on BU, and twice in BB , so was def going to jam before BB flatted, so i decide to flat IP instead of a 4b .... BAD?

    flop: after he 1/2p it , i decide im calling down all non A & heart turn and rivers

    River: should i be thinking about value on this river? I didn't think so cause he did seem kinda trappy , and don't wanna deal w/ a c/r.

    check behind??
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  2. #2
    I like pre, but you say you jam until bb calls... I think we utterly crush this guy's range in a 3b pot but not in a 4b+ pot. I think jamming would be a mistake.

    Flop is meh but I'm happy to call this down. River is interesting. I feel like we're very probably ahead when he checks, but what does he call? Value is ridiculously thin here, I'd have been much happier had he bet. I think we can only bet if we think he can c/r bluff river in this spot. If we're not calling a c/r, then I don't see the point in betting, because there's just so little he calls.
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  3. #3
    Not a big fan of the 3bet pre (3betting was pretty rare at 2NL when I was playing it), but he seems pretty crazy so a call is good. Flop and turn look pretty standard but the river check is interesting.

    My first thought is to bet for value, looking for calls from JJ/TT but on second thought it looks like it could be AA worried that AK got there? I think betting for value is pretty thin here and I'm inclined to check and make a note of what villain was holding.
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  4. #4
    I just 4bet and get it in against this dick waver (but not thrilled about it). BB is capped at TT/JJ/AK in my experience and we can comfortably stack off against that range.

    River is a check behind. He either has a badly played Kx that snaps off, he'll snap off AA too because he's likely bad and he'll just chk/fold the rest. We could think about an overbet bluff if we had the chips but I'd just never do so against somebody shaping up like this guy and prefer to just cram it in with the Kx part of our range only.
  5. #5
    I know you have small sample size of hands on both villains, but from early trends this looks like an easy 4b pre and isolate the more fishy BB cold caller.

    As played, just checking the river. He likely has AA, and I see no need to turn QQ into a bluff.
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