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(2nl) AKs in CO 4b pot vs. nitty

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  1. #1

    Default (2nl) AKs in CO 4b pot vs. nitty

    Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: $6.99 (VPIP: 18.53, PFR: 10.86, 3Bet Preflop: 3.62, Hands: 315)
    SB: $1.69 (VPIP: 27.69, PFR: 20.10, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 197)
    BB: $0.95 (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
    UTG: $1.64 (VPIP: 24.49, PFR: 16.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 49)
    Hero (CO): $2.00

    SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has A K

    UTG raises to $0.06, Hero raises to $0.18, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to $0.54, Hero calls $0.36

    Flop: ($1.11, 2 players) Q K 6
    UTG bets $0.70,???

    villain is obv nitty, 3b is only 4%, when he 4b's do i ever just dump it here vs. nit?

    Flop: so i hit TP, but no clubs which would have been nice. do we c/c the flop here? if we c/f, then i guess the only way were cont is if i have any flush possibilities right?
    Last edited by WeldPhaser; 01-06-2016 at 09:54 AM.
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  2. #2
    Is villain nitty? He's 25/16'ish over 50 hands, that's not THAT nitty really.

    I mean you need a better plan here. I don't like your plan of 3b this (only to fold to a 4b) unless you KNOW he's the type that calls a ton OOP to 3b but rarely 4b. In which case you are 3b vs his call heavy range and folding to his very narrow 4b range.

    In this spot you don't have great reads. Flatting the 4b kinda sucks if you are playing fit or fold on the flop. IFF he's bluffing, he will often have some sort of Ax hands, which lowers the likelihood of hitting an ace when you peel.

    I would either flat his open pre, or 3b/5b (if I was comfortable with this), or 3b/fold to 4b if I knew he flatted 3b often OOP.

    As played, gotta go with it and hope he's spazzing with AQ I suppose. Though more likely you're effed by QQ+.

    As an aside - his sizing is brutal.
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  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
    Is villain nitty? He's 25/16'ish over 50 hands, that's not THAT nitty really.

    I mean you need a better plan here. I don't like your plan of 3b this (only to fold to a 4b) unless you KNOW he's the type that calls a ton OOP to 3b but rarely 4b. In which case you are 3b vs his call heavy range and folding to his very narrow 4b range.

    In this spot you don't have great reads. Flatting the 4b kinda sucks if you are playing fit or fold on the flop. IFF he's bluffing, he will often have some sort of Ax hands, which lowers the likelihood of hitting an ace when you peel.

    I would either flat his open pre, or 3b/5b (if I was comfortable with this), or 3b/fold to 4b if I knew he flatted 3b often OOP.

    As played, gotta go with it and hope he's spazzing with AQ I suppose. Though more likely you're effed by QQ+.

    As an aside - his sizing is brutal.
    Yeah i glanced at wrong villains stats, so now when i look at the hand I think i GII or fold.only 49 hands but he never 3b so what grif ya think i should ever flat IP here? otherwise i guess 3b fold/3b/shove huh?
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  4. #4
    Yeah this is a fold vs the 4b. He's utg, solid stats, and he doesn't care that we're 3betting his utg open. His sizing is huge. Punish him by folding.
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  5. #5
    I wouldn't call anything to this 4b on this occasion. Maybe if he 4bets this big again in the next few orbits, I'll reconsider his range. But here, now, this is KK+ and I'm folding everything except KK+, which I'm stacking.

    And yes, I know I should fold KK vs such a perceived range. I'm not gonna.
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  6. #6
    I think 3betting AK and QQ for value vs a fairly tight utg isn't ideal unless you have reg wars with this guy or for the reasons Griffey mentions. I think we can 3bet some suited aces as bluffs but we don't even really need to do that at 2nl. Stacking KK pre.

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