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  1. #1

    Default 10NL: Vbetting with Marginal Hands

    Can't get the FTR converter to work (as usual). I'll edit OP iffen I get it working.

    Hand 1:

    Early in the session. I think villain's probably a fish, but not much to go on.

    (FWIW, original limper is a 60/15 l/f'er who donks when he has a hand and pretty much folds otherwise. He VPIPs a ton, but I'm only getting to the turn with him if he has a good hand. Other villain is a Spanish wannabe LAG. I probably even like opening more here to bloat the pot as much as I can against the LAG, and the fish really only plays hands he likes anyway, so I don't think he changes his range much based on sizing.)

    http://weaktight.com/5894224

    I think what I like most is $1.50 turn and check back this river. Now that I've kept his range so wide, surely there's still plenty to vbet? I can't think of almost any air in villain's range, so this is probably a good spot to bet small/fold?



    Hand 2:

    Villain is 33/26 over a small sample and has been 3b'ing up a storm. This is his first squeeze. I don't have a good feel for how he plays postflop yet. Original PFR is a nit.

    http://weaktight.com/5894224

    What I like about vbetting the turn is that it protects my hand against KQ type stuff, and I float in this spot a ton so it's great for balance. Problem is that there's about a PSB left, and shoving obviously seems terrible. As played, checking back twice seems like it makes my range easy to play against, but I'm not sure how much 9x he has (and if he calls with it), and other than that there's like TT/88/MAYBE 66 that I can get value against and there's a ton of QQ/KK/TPNK in his range.

    I'm really close to the bottom of my range anyway, so maybe checking twice is fine.



    Hand 3:

    Villain is running 36/23 AFq: 38, ATS: 43, F23B: 33 and I've seen him call a resteal with K5s and play it like the nuts on a K-high flop. We have a dynamic going, and he thinks I'm pretty crazy and will find any excuse to call me. He's called two streets with 33 on A-high rainbow against me.

    http://weaktight.com/5894247

    Do we like the turn check? Surely it's a c/f.

    As played, hero vbets like $2.80?
    Last edited by surviva316; 06-19-2013 at 01:15 PM.
  2. #2
    Hand 1 and 2 have the same link.

    Hand 1: My usual line would be to be bet turn 1/2-2/3 pot and check back river. I don't know how much value you can actually get by betting river. Even though your turn sizing should keep him wide ott, is he really going to be calling 3 barrels (although small) with Tx? or like KJ QJ?

    Hand 3: If you think it's worth a vbet, I'd probably bet small since we're never bluffing here.

    Edit: Hand 2: I'm assuming this is the JJ hand that you posted at the same time on weaktight. I'd just check behind. i don't think there's much worse that villain may be calling with. Also wouldn't worry too much about being balanced in 10NL. What's your pre calling range vs his squeeze? I don't see why you'd say you would have a ton of hands that would float flop.
    Last edited by ColdDecked; 06-20-2013 at 03:25 AM.
  3. #3
    Yes, my bad. Too late to edit OP now, but here's Hand 2: http://weaktight.com/5894232.
  4. #4
    H1. How wide is wannabe s flat range pre ? What's his vpip/pfr?
    "We're all just a million little gods causing rainstorms, turning every good thing to rust...."AF
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by WeldPhaser View Post
    H1. How wide is wannabe s flat range pre ? What's his vpip/pfr?
    32/29 3b: 11%

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