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    Default Drew's 1-1 V.2.1

    Hand 1)

    I've played 192 hands vs villain thus far and I have his BB vs steal % at 93/0/7 and the SB stat is essentially the same, which is like raising 1 time and folding the rest in 14 opportunities. Safe to say he has a big ace or a big pair.

    I'm a big fan of floating in 3bet bvb pots. Raise flop? Bet turn?

    No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (CO) ($102.10)

    Button ($215)
    SB ($104.50)
    BB ($100)
    UTG ($131.10)
    UTG+1 ($40)
    MP1 ($50)
    MP2 ($164.50)
    MP3 ($36.60)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 5, 7
    5 folds, Hero bets $3, 1 fold, SB raises $9.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $7

    Flop: ($21) 7, 10, A (2 players)
    SB bets $13, Hero calls $13

    Turn: ($47) 2 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero ?


    Hand 2)

    After only 80 hands, villain is a 22/18/0. I didn't have his stealing stats at the time but I can say that I'm not a super nit from the BB.

    Thoughts as played thus far? Bet sizing on flop and turn, possible jam on turn c/r etc.

    No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (7 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP1 ($105.30)
    MP2 ($106)
    CO ($101)
    Button ($122.05)
    SB ($97.70)
    Hero (BB) ($108.75)
    UTG ($115.45)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, 9
    5 folds, SB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2

    Flop: ($6) 10, K, 4 (2 players)
    SB bets $3, Hero raises $9, SB calls $6

    Turn: ($24) 6 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $18, SB raises $47, Hero calls $29
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    Just my .02, dont know if others will agree....

    If were betting the turn in H1, were probably gunna have to fire alot of rivers as a bluff as I dont think we have much sd value in this spot.
    As you said his range prob consists of Tx and Bigger pairs+ some Ax.

    H2 I dont really love flatting the turn..im prob just shipping it.


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    1 Preflop is terrible, flop is fine, figure out whether you think he will give you more credit on the turn or river for AJ+

    2 Definitely bet the turn and call if you think there's no fold equity.
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    pre in hand 1 is pretty bad imo. so many better hands we can have here. i guess we have to bet the turn when we get there, although against someone like you (who i assume has a pretty low fold to 3b in BvB/LP situations and a low FTCB in the same spots) i am check/shoving a huge amount of my range on the turn here in villain's shoes.

    hand 2 flop is standard. i'd check back turn despite having so many awesome river cards. i imagine we would need some non-zero amount of FE on the turn (or some implied FE on the riv) to make betting here better than checking back. and i can't think of many hands which B/C a flop OOP and C/F this turn card. as played we're getting nearly 3:1 so calling cant be too bad with what is likely 12 outs. i doubt we ever get folds if we jam so i think call>jam on the turn as played.
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    Hand 2 turn is an easy bet.

    1. There's fold equity.
    2. We don't have the best hand.
    3. We can bet big on any Spade, J, heart, maybe 9 or A, and check a Q
    4. We don't expect to get checkraised too much, although it wouldn't be a bad thing because we can call or shove.
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    if you think there is fold equity on the turn then yeah, by all means, fire away
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    hand 1 pre has been said
    fire away the turn and fire away the river

    hand 2 def dont shove over the turn raise. call.

    if he checks the river to you on any heart spade or J shove
    if not well obv call any j or spade
    i would say 9 and A too but i dont give people enough credit to fold sets on those cards

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    1) fold preflop, you have practically the bottom of your cutoff opening range, there's no need to defend this unless you are well aware of some massive leaks villain has in 3bet pots.

    This is a poor turn-card to bet, just check behind and hope for a good river (7, 5, K, Q, J) and give up otherwise hoping your 7 is good.

    I'm guessing you bet the turn and lost the hand.

    2) Well obviously he's repping enormous strength. Just call and fold unless you hit I guess...

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