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  1. #1
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    Hi Everyone,


    We might add a new pineapple bot and it is said to be better than BaldBullBot. It is playing against itself in these first 3 hands, please let us know what you think.


    Note the following:
    Discards are listed in the bottom row and although they are printed in the hand history for both players, the bot does not cheat and each bot does not know what the other player has discarded.


    The output of the history is from player 1's point of view, so when player 2 gets fantasy land, his hand will be hidden by question marks. His hand is revealed at the end, so you will be able to see it. Conversely, when player 1 gets fantasy land, you will see all his cards immediately. Player 2 then starts playing cards, and although you can see player 1's cards in the hand history, the player 2 bot cannot see them and does not plan around them.

    ###
    Player 1 Player 2


    -- -- -- -- -- --


    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --


    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --


    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --


    Player 1 Player 2


    -- -- -- -- -- --


    -- -- -- -- -- 7s 4d 3h -- --


    -- -- -- -- -- 9c 8c -- -- --


    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --


    Player 1 Player 2


    -- -- -- -- -- --


    7c 4h -- -- -- 7s 4d 3h -- --


    Td Tc Jd -- -- 9c 8c -- -- --


    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --


    Player 1 Player 2


    -- -- -- -- -- --


    7c 4h -- -- -- 7s 4d 3h 7d --


    Td Tc Jd -- -- 9c 8c 2h -- --


    -- -- -- -- 2s -- -- --


    Player 1 Player 2


    -- -- -- -- -- --


    7c 4h 7h 4s -- 7s 4d 3h 7d --


    Td Tc Jd -- -- 9c 8c 2h -- --


    9s -- -- -- 2s -- -- --


    Player 1 Player 2


    -- -- -- -- -- --


    7c 4h 7h 4s -- 7s 4d 3h 7d 3s


    Td Tc Jd -- -- 9c 8c 2h 9h --


    9s -- -- -- 2s Kc -- --


    Player 1 Player 2


    Ks -- -- -- -- --


    7c 4h 7h 4s 8h 7s 4d 3h 7d 3s


    Td Tc Jd -- -- 9c 8c 2h 9h --


    9s 2d -- -- 2s Kc -- --


    Player 1 Player 2


    Ks -- -- Qc Js --


    7c 4h 7h 4s 8h 7s 4d 3h 7d 3s


    Td Tc Jd -- -- 9c 8c 2h 9h --


    9s 2d -- -- 2s Kc Th --


    Player 1 Player 2


    Ks Kd -- Qc Js --


    7c 4h 7h 4s 8h 7s 4d 3h 7d 3s


    Td Tc Jd Ts -- 9c 8c 2h 9h --


    9s 2d As -- 2s Kc Th --


    Player 1 Player 2


    Ks Kd -- Qc Js Qs


    7c 4h 7h 4s 8h 7s 4d 3h 7d 3s


    Td Tc Jd Ts -- 9c 8c 2h 9h Jh


    9s 2d As -- 2s Kc Th 5c


    Player 1 Player 2


    Ks Kd 5d Qc Js Qs


    7c 4h 7h 4s 8h 7s 4d 3h 7d 3s


    Td Tc Jd Ts Jc 9c 8c 2h 9h Jh


    9s 2d As 3c 2s Kc Th 5c


    Player 1 Player 2


    HANDS ROYAL TOTAL HANDS ROYAL TOTAL


    2 8 -2 -8


    2 0 -2 0


    2 6 -2 -6


    0 0 0 0


    20 -20


    Score is 20 after 1 games


    Player 1 Player 2


    -- -- -- -- -- --


    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --


    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --


    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --


    Player 1 Player 2


    Ah Ks Kh -- -- --


    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s -- -- -- -- --


    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d -- -- -- -- --


    2s -- -- -- -- -- -- --


    Player 1 Player 2


    Ah Ks Kh Qh -- --


    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s Js Th -- -- --


    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d Kc 3c -- -- --


    2s -- -- -- -- -- -- --


    Player 1 Player 2


    Ah Ks Kh Qh -- --


    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s Js Th 4h -- --


    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d Kc 3c 6c -- --


    2s -- -- -- 7d -- -- --


    Player 1 Player 2


    Ah Ks Kh Qh 2h --


    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s Js Th 4h Qs --


    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d Kc 3c 6c -- --


    2s -- -- -- 7d 5s -- --


    Player 1 Player 2


    Ah Ks Kh Qh 2h --


    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s Js Th 4h Qs Ts


    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d Kc 3c 6c 5c --


    2s -- -- -- 7d 5s 8d --


    Player 1 Player 2


    Ah Ks Kh Qh 2h Jc


    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s Js Th 4h Qs Ts


    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d Kc 3c 6c 5c 8c


    2s -- -- -- 7d 5s 8d 5h


    Player 1 Player 2


    HANDS ROYAL TOTAL HANDS ROYAL TOTAL


    2 8 -2 -8


    2 2 -2 -2


    2 0 -2 0


    0 0 0 0


    16 -16


    Score is 36 after 2 games


    Player 1 Player 2


    -- -- -- -- -- --


    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --


    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --


    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --


    Player 1 Player 2


    -- -- -- -- -- --


    9d 3d -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --


    8d 8s 8h -- -- -- -- -- -- --


    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --


    Player 1 Player 2


    -- -- -- -- -- --


    9d 3d -- -- -- Ts 4d -- -- --


    8d 8s 8h -- -- 6h 6c 5h -- --


    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --


    Player 1 Player 2


    Ks -- -- -- -- --


    9d 3d -- -- -- Ts 4d -- -- --


    8d 8s 8h 4h -- 6h 6c 5h -- --


    6s -- -- -- -- -- -- --


    Player 1 Player 2


    Ks -- -- Qc -- --


    9d 3d -- -- -- Ts 4d 3h -- --


    8d 8s 8h 4h -- 6h 6c 5h -- --


    6s -- -- -- 8c -- -- --


    Player 1 Player 2


    Ks -- -- Qc -- --


    9d 3d Js 9h -- Ts 4d 3h -- --


    8d 8s 8h 4h -- 6h 6c 5h -- --


    6s 5c -- -- 8c -- -- --


    Player 1 Player 2


    Ks -- -- Qc Jd --


    9d 3d Js 9h -- Ts 4d 3h 3s --


    8d 8s 8h 4h -- 6h 6c 5h -- --


    6s 5c -- -- 8c 2s -- --


    Player 1 Player 2


    Ks 7d -- Qc Jd --


    9d 3d Js 9h -- Ts 4d 3h 3s --


    8d 8s 8h 4h 4s 6h 6c 5h -- --


    6s 5c 2d -- 8c 2s -- --


    Player 1 Player 2


    Ks 7d -- Qc Jd --


    9d 3d Js 9h -- Ts 4d 3h 3s 4c


    8d 8s 8h 4h 4s 6h 6c 5h As --


    6s 5c 2d -- 8c 2s 7c --


    Player 1 Player 2


    Ks 7d 7h Qc Jd --


    9d 3d Js 9h Jh Ts 4d 3h 3s 4c


    8d 8s 8h 4h 4s 6h 6c 5h As --


    6s 5c 2d Td 8c 2s 7c --


    Player 1 Player 2


    Ks 7d 7h Qc Jd Qs


    9d 3d Js 9h Jh Ts 4d 3h 3s 4c


    8d 8s 8h 4h 4s 6h 6c 5h As Ah


    6s 5c 2d Td 8c 2s 7c Qh


    Player 1 Player 2


    HANDS ROYAL TOTAL HANDS ROYAL TOTAL


    -2 -5 2 5


    2 0 -2 0


    2 6 -2 -6


    0 0 0 0


    3 -3


    Score is 39 after 3 games
    ###
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    Can we name it Mr. Sandman bot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhubermex View Post
    Can we name it Mr. Sandman bot?
    Sandman was the champ, right? I'm guessing this bot is somewhere between BaldBullBot and Sandman. We'll need to analyze its hand histories before deciding whether to add it and what to name it.

    I can add more once we analyze these first 3 (really it is like 6 since it is playing itself each time).
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    Testing code bb to see if that makes the format easier to read:
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    Here is some text inside the code tag.
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    Does the code tag make it easier to read?

    Code:
    ###
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- 7s 4d 3h -- --
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- 9c 8c -- -- --
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    7c 4h -- -- -- 7s 4d 3h -- --
    
    
    Td Tc Jd -- -- 9c 8c -- -- --
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    7c 4h -- -- -- 7s 4d 3h 7d --
    
    
    Td Tc Jd -- -- 9c 8c 2h -- --
    
    
    -- -- -- -- 2s -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    7c 4h 7h 4s -- 7s 4d 3h 7d --
    
    
    Td Tc Jd -- -- 9c 8c 2h -- --
    
    
    9s -- -- -- 2s -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    7c 4h 7h 4s -- 7s 4d 3h 7d 3s
    
    
    Td Tc Jd -- -- 9c 8c 2h 9h --
    
    
    9s -- -- -- 2s Kc -- --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    Ks -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    7c 4h 7h 4s 8h 7s 4d 3h 7d 3s
    
    
    Td Tc Jd -- -- 9c 8c 2h 9h --
    
    
    9s 2d -- -- 2s Kc -- --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    Ks -- -- Qc Js --
    
    
    7c 4h 7h 4s 8h 7s 4d 3h 7d 3s
    
    
    Td Tc Jd -- -- 9c 8c 2h 9h --
    
    
    9s 2d -- -- 2s Kc Th --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    Ks Kd -- Qc Js --
    
    
    7c 4h 7h 4s 8h 7s 4d 3h 7d 3s
    
    
    Td Tc Jd Ts -- 9c 8c 2h 9h --
    
    
    9s 2d As -- 2s Kc Th --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    Ks Kd -- Qc Js Qs
    
    
    7c 4h 7h 4s 8h 7s 4d 3h 7d 3s
    
    
    Td Tc Jd Ts -- 9c 8c 2h 9h Jh
    
    
    9s 2d As -- 2s Kc Th 5c
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    Ks Kd 5d Qc Js Qs
    
    
    7c 4h 7h 4s 8h 7s 4d 3h 7d 3s
    
    
    Td Tc Jd Ts Jc 9c 8c 2h 9h Jh
    
    
    9s 2d As 3c 2s Kc Th 5c
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    HANDS ROYAL TOTAL HANDS ROYAL TOTAL
    
    
    2 8 -2 -8
    
    
    2 0 -2 0
    
    
    2 6 -2 -6
    
    
    0 0 0 0
    
    
    20 -20
    
    
    Score is 20 after 1 games
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    Ah Ks Kh -- -- --
    
    
    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    2s -- -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    Ah Ks Kh Qh -- --
    
    
    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s Js Th -- -- --
    
    
    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d Kc 3c -- -- --
    
    
    2s -- -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    Ah Ks Kh Qh -- --
    
    
    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s Js Th 4h -- --
    
    
    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d Kc 3c 6c -- --
    
    
    2s -- -- -- 7d -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    Ah Ks Kh Qh 2h --
    
    
    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s Js Th 4h Qs --
    
    
    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d Kc 3c 6c -- --
    
    
    2s -- -- -- 7d 5s -- --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    Ah Ks Kh Qh 2h --
    
    
    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s Js Th 4h Qs Ts
    
    
    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d Kc 3c 6c 5c --
    
    
    2s -- -- -- 7d 5s 8d --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    Ah Ks Kh Qh 2h Jc
    
    
    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s Js Th 4h Qs Ts
    
    
    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d Kc 3c 6c 5c 8c
    
    
    2s -- -- -- 7d 5s 8d 5h
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    HANDS ROYAL TOTAL HANDS ROYAL TOTAL
    
    
    2 8 -2 -8
    
    
    2 2 -2 -2
    
    
    2 0 -2 0
    
    
    0 0 0 0
    
    
    16 -16
    
    
    Score is 36 after 2 games
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    9d 3d -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    8d 8s 8h -- -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    9d 3d -- -- -- Ts 4d -- -- --
    
    
    8d 8s 8h -- -- 6h 6c 5h -- --
    
    
    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    Ks -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    9d 3d -- -- -- Ts 4d -- -- --
    
    
    8d 8s 8h 4h -- 6h 6c 5h -- --
    
    
    6s -- -- -- -- -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    Ks -- -- Qc -- --
    
    
    9d 3d -- -- -- Ts 4d 3h -- --
    
    
    8d 8s 8h 4h -- 6h 6c 5h -- --
    
    
    6s -- -- -- 8c -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    Ks -- -- Qc -- --
    
    
    9d 3d Js 9h -- Ts 4d 3h -- --
    
    
    8d 8s 8h 4h -- 6h 6c 5h -- --
    
    
    6s 5c -- -- 8c -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    Ks -- -- Qc Jd --
    
    
    9d 3d Js 9h -- Ts 4d 3h 3s --
    
    
    8d 8s 8h 4h -- 6h 6c 5h -- --
    
    
    6s 5c -- -- 8c 2s -- --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    Ks 7d -- Qc Jd --
    
    
    9d 3d Js 9h -- Ts 4d 3h 3s --
    
    
    8d 8s 8h 4h 4s 6h 6c 5h -- --
    
    
    6s 5c 2d -- 8c 2s -- --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    Ks 7d -- Qc Jd --
    
    
    9d 3d Js 9h -- Ts 4d 3h 3s 4c
    
    
    8d 8s 8h 4h 4s 6h 6c 5h As --
    
    
    6s 5c 2d -- 8c 2s 7c --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    Ks 7d 7h Qc Jd --
    
    
    9d 3d Js 9h Jh Ts 4d 3h 3s 4c
    
    
    8d 8s 8h 4h 4s 6h 6c 5h As --
    
    
    6s 5c 2d Td 8c 2s 7c --
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    Ks 7d 7h Qc Jd Qs
    
    
    9d 3d Js 9h Jh Ts 4d 3h 3s 4c
    
    
    8d 8s 8h 4h 4s 6h 6c 5h As Ah
    
    
    6s 5c 2d Td 8c 2s 7c Qh
    
    
    Player 1 Player 2
    
    
    HANDS ROYAL TOTAL HANDS ROYAL TOTAL
    
    
    -2 -5 2 5
    
    
    2 0 -2 0
    
    
    2 6 -2 -6
    
    
    0 0 0 0
    
    
    3 -3
    
    
    Score is 39 after 3 games
    ###
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Hi Everyone,


    We might add a new pineapple bot and it is said to be better than BaldBullBot. It is playing against itself in these first 3 hands, please let us know what you think.


    Note the following:
    First, these hand histories are damned hard to follow. Any chance you can convert them to the standard FTR hand history format?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post

    Player 1 Player 2


    -- -- -- -- -- --


    -- -- -- -- -- 7s 4d 3h -- --


    -- -- -- -- -- 9c 8c -- -- --


    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --


    Interesting set. I would have set x/34/789, but I notice the bot's line keeps open the flush (and even straight flush) possibility while leaving straight/straight and 2-pair/2-pair in play.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Player 1 Player 2


    -- -- -- -- -- --


    7c 4h -- -- -- 7s 4d 3h -- --


    Td Tc Jd -- -- 9c 8c -- -- --


    -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
    The other "player's" set is standard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Player 1 Player 2


    -- -- -- -- -- --


    7c 4h -- -- -- 7s 4d 3h 7d --


    Td Tc Jd -- -- 9c 8c 2h -- --


    -- -- -- -- 2s -- -- --
    What the fuck? This just totally uglifies the back hand. If he had set x / 34 / 789 originally, now the 22 could go in the mid and the hand looks a lot better, but given his set I think I'd play the 22 on top, mostly just resigning FL unless I get very lucky and make 2 straights and trips on top.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Player 1 Player 2


    -- -- -- -- -- --


    7c 4h 7h 4s -- 7s 4d 3h 7d --


    Td Tc Jd -- -- 9c 8c 2h -- --


    9s -- -- -- 2s -- -- --
    Again, standard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post

    Player 1 Player 2


    -- -- -- -- -- --


    7c 4h 7h 4s -- 7s 4d 3h 7d 3s


    Td Tc Jd -- -- 9c 8c 2h 9h --


    9s -- -- -- 2s Kc -- --
    Given the route he has taken so far, what else could he do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Player 1 Player 2


    Ks -- -- -- -- --


    7c 4h 7h 4s 8h 7s 4d 3h 7d 3s


    Td Tc Jd -- -- 9c 8c 2h 9h --


    9s 2d -- -- 2s Kc -- --
    This "player's" line has been solid throughout.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Player 1 Player 2


    Ks -- -- Qc Js --


    7c 4h 7h 4s 8h 7s 4d 3h 7d 3s


    Td Tc Jd -- -- 9c 8c 2h 9h --


    9s 2d -- -- 2s Kc Th --
    Okay, he has a thin backdoor shot at FL now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Player 1 Player 2


    Ks Kd -- Qc Js --


    7c 4h 7h 4s 8h 7s 4d 3h 7d 3s


    Td Tc Jd Ts -- 9c 8c 2h 9h --


    9s 2d As -- 2s Kc Th --
    A well-played hand is rewarded with a trip to FL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Player 1 Player 2


    Ks Kd -- Qc Js Qs


    7c 4h 7h 4s 8h 7s 4d 3h 7d 3s


    Td Tc Jd Ts -- 9c 8c 2h 9h Jh


    9s 2d As -- 2s Kc Th 5c
    And a poorly-played hand blows up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Player 1 Player 2


    Ks Kd 5d Qc Js Qs


    7c 4h 7h 4s 8h 7s 4d 3h 7d 3s


    Td Tc Jd Ts Jc 9c 8c 2h 9h Jh


    9s 2d As 3c 2s Kc Th 5c
    Just a little icing on the cake as the boat gets there.

    Sorry, bro, I was going to look at all 3 hands, but these histories are giving me a headache. If the bot plays the way it did as Player 1, it looks pretty solid, but I'm not thrilled with the line it took as Player 2.
  7. #7
    The original forum format stripped the extra spaces. Here are the hands with the correct spacing:
    Code:
    Player 1           Player 2
    -- -- --           -- -- --
    -- -- -- -- --     -- -- -- -- --
    -- -- -- -- --     -- -- -- -- --
    -- -- -- --        -- -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    -- -- --           -- -- --
    -- -- -- -- --     7s 4d 3h -- --
    -- -- -- -- --     9c 8c -- -- --
    -- -- -- --        -- -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    -- -- --           -- -- --
    7c 4h -- -- --     7s 4d 3h -- --
    Td Tc Jd -- --     9c 8c -- -- --
    -- -- -- --        -- -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    -- -- --           -- -- --
    7c 4h -- -- --     7s 4d 3h 7d --
    Td Tc Jd -- --     9c 8c 2h -- --
    -- -- -- --        2s -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    -- -- --           -- -- --
    7c 4h 7h 4s --     7s 4d 3h 7d --
    Td Tc Jd -- --     9c 8c 2h -- --
    9s -- -- --        2s -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    -- -- --           -- -- --
    7c 4h 7h 4s --     7s 4d 3h 7d 3s
    Td Tc Jd -- --     9c 8c 2h 9h --
    9s -- -- --        2s Kc -- --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    Ks -- --           -- -- --
    7c 4h 7h 4s 8h     7s 4d 3h 7d 3s
    Td Tc Jd -- --     9c 8c 2h 9h --
    9s 2d -- --        2s Kc -- --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    Ks -- --           Qc Js --
    7c 4h 7h 4s 8h     7s 4d 3h 7d 3s
    Td Tc Jd -- --     9c 8c 2h 9h --
    9s 2d -- --        2s Kc Th --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    Ks Kd --           Qc Js --
    7c 4h 7h 4s 8h     7s 4d 3h 7d 3s
    Td Tc Jd Ts --     9c 8c 2h 9h --
    9s 2d As --        2s Kc Th --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    Ks Kd --           Qc Js Qs
    7c 4h 7h 4s 8h     7s 4d 3h 7d 3s
    Td Tc Jd Ts --     9c 8c 2h 9h Jh
    9s 2d As --        2s Kc Th 5c
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    Ks Kd 5d           Qc Js Qs
    7c 4h 7h 4s 8h     7s 4d 3h 7d 3s
    Td Tc Jd Ts Jc     9c 8c 2h 9h Jh
    9s 2d As 3c        2s Kc Th 5c
    
    
    Player 1            Player 2
    HANDS ROYAL TOTAL   HANDS ROYAL TOTAL
        2     8            -2    -8
        2     0            -2     0
        2     6            -2    -6
        0     0             0     0
                   20                 -20
    
    Score is 20 after 1 games
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    -- -- --           -- -- --
    -- -- -- -- --     -- -- -- -- --
    -- -- -- -- --     -- -- -- -- --
    -- -- -- --        -- -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    Ah Ks Kh           -- -- --
    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s     -- -- -- -- --
    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d     -- -- -- -- --
    2s -- -- --        -- -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    Ah Ks Kh           Qh -- --
    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s     Js Th -- -- --
    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d     Kc 3c -- -- --
    2s -- -- --        -- -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    Ah Ks Kh           Qh -- --
    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s     Js Th 4h -- --
    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d     Kc 3c 6c -- --
    2s -- -- --        7d -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    Ah Ks Kh           Qh 2h --
    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s     Js Th 4h Qs --
    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d     Kc 3c 6c -- --
    2s -- -- --        7d 5s -- --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    Ah Ks Kh           Qh 2h --
    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s     Js Th 4h Qs Ts
    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d     Kc 3c 6c 5c --
    2s -- -- --        7d 5s 8d --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    Ah Ks Kh           Qh 2h Jc
    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s     Js Th 4h Qs Ts
    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d     Kc 3c 6c 5c 8c
    2s -- -- --        7d 5s 8d 5h
    
    
    Player 1            Player 2
    HANDS ROYAL TOTAL   HANDS ROYAL TOTAL
        2     8            -2    -8
        2     2            -2    -2
        2     0            -2     0
        0     0             0     0
                   16                 -16
    
    Score is 36 after 2 games
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    -- -- --           -- -- --
    -- -- -- -- --     -- -- -- -- --
    -- -- -- -- --     -- -- -- -- --
    -- -- -- --        -- -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    -- -- --           -- -- --
    9d 3d -- -- --     -- -- -- -- --
    8d 8s 8h -- --     -- -- -- -- --
    -- -- -- --        -- -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    -- -- --           -- -- --
    9d 3d -- -- --     Ts 4d -- -- --
    8d 8s 8h -- --     6h 6c 5h -- --
    -- -- -- --        -- -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    Ks -- --           -- -- --
    9d 3d -- -- --     Ts 4d -- -- --
    8d 8s 8h 4h --     6h 6c 5h -- --
    6s -- -- --        -- -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    Ks -- --           Qc -- --
    9d 3d -- -- --     Ts 4d 3h -- --
    8d 8s 8h 4h --     6h 6c 5h -- --
    6s -- -- --        8c -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    Ks -- --           Qc -- --
    9d 3d Js 9h --     Ts 4d 3h -- --
    8d 8s 8h 4h --     6h 6c 5h -- --
    6s 5c -- --        8c -- -- --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    Ks -- --           Qc Jd --
    9d 3d Js 9h --     Ts 4d 3h 3s --
    8d 8s 8h 4h --     6h 6c 5h -- --
    6s 5c -- --        8c 2s -- --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    Ks 7d --           Qc Jd --
    9d 3d Js 9h --     Ts 4d 3h 3s --
    8d 8s 8h 4h 4s     6h 6c 5h -- --
    6s 5c 2d --        8c 2s -- --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    Ks 7d --           Qc Jd --
    9d 3d Js 9h --     Ts 4d 3h 3s 4c
    8d 8s 8h 4h 4s     6h 6c 5h As --
    6s 5c 2d --        8c 2s 7c --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    Ks 7d 7h           Qc Jd --
    9d 3d Js 9h Jh     Ts 4d 3h 3s 4c
    8d 8s 8h 4h 4s     6h 6c 5h As --
    6s 5c 2d Td        8c 2s 7c --
    
    
    Player 1           Player 2
    Ks 7d 7h           Qc Jd Qs
    9d 3d Js 9h Jh     Ts 4d 3h 3s 4c
    8d 8s 8h 4h 4s     6h 6c 5h As Ah
    6s 5c 2d Td        8c 2s 7c Qh
    
    
    Player 1            Player 2
    HANDS ROYAL TOTAL   HANDS ROYAL TOTAL
       -2    -5             2     5
        2     0            -2     0
        2     6            -2    -6
        0     0             0     0
                    3                  -3
    
    Score is 39 after 3 games
  8. #8
    Player 1 Player 2


    -- -- -- -- -- --


    7c 4h -- -- -- 7s 4d 3h 7d --


    Td Tc Jd -- -- 9c 8c 2h -- --


    -- -- -- -- 2s -- -- --
    What the fuck? This just totally uglifies the back hand.
    Hi, I'm the bot creator. I also cringed when I saw this hand, but I didn't cherry-pick any of the results and it is what it is. Sometimes the simulations give strange results, but most of the time it's very solid. I can try to go back and recreate this hand and try to pick apart what the bot was thinking... but sometimes the simulations just make you want to scratch your head.
  9. #9
    A quick look at hand 2 before I go to work:

    Player 1 Player 2
    Ah Ks Kh Qh -- --
    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s Js Th -- -- --
    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d Kc 3c -- -- --
    2s -- -- -- -- -- -- --

    FL set is fine, he could have also made 14 in royalties with boat on the bottom and flush in the mid, but he "knew" that this set had much better scoop potential.

    As for Player 2, based on a tiny 2-hand sample, it looks like this bot way overvalues the 2-flush low. I like Q/K3/JT much better because less has to go right to make FL.

    Player 1 Player 2
    Ah Ks Kh Qh -- --
    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s Js Th 4h -- --
    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d Kc 3c 6c -- --
    2s -- -- -- 7d -- -- --

    His set looks better than mine after this draw, and my only beef is why not play the 7 in the mid instead of the 2? It's not only a higher and equally live card, but it keeps open a backdoor straight possibility.

    Player 1 Player 2
    Ah Ks Kh Qh 2h --
    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s Js Th 4h Qs --
    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d Kc 3c 6c -- --
    2s -- -- -- 7d 5s -- --

    The moment of decision arrives, and he decides to forgo FL and play a safety. With opp in FL, I would have gone for this because you will so often get scooped anyway when you play this safety.

    Player 1 Player 2
    Ah Ks Kh Qh 2h --
    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s Js Th 4h Qs Ts
    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d Kc 3c 6c 5c --
    2s -- -- -- 7d 5s 8d --

    The flush marches toward completion, but the hand has nothing else going for it.

    Player 1 Player 2
    Ah Ks Kh Qh 2h Jc
    9d 9c 9s Tc 7s Js Th 4h Qs Ts
    Ad Qd Jd 5d 3d Kc 3c 6c 5c 8c
    2s -- -- -- 7d 5s 8d 5h

    He does save 4 points by completing the flush, but gets scooped anyway. Even though I would have done worse with the same cards, I don't really care for the set or most of the street play.
  10. #10
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    As for Player 2, based on a tiny 2-hand sample, it looks like this bot way overvalues the 2-flush low.


    Yeah, the simulator written by Nikolai (@ivan_bezdomny) shows that there is a huge drop-off in value between 3-flush on bottom and 2-flush on bottom.
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    Note that we use 6-1 scoring while this bot uses 6-2. Here is the difference:


    6-1
    net points for scoop: +6
    net points for winning 2/3: +1


    6-2
    net points for scoop: +6
    net points for winning 2/3: +2

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